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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2625 on: April 10, 2016, 11:00:49 PM »
In other news, I can't work out whether this is a pitch or somebody serving up a very cold dish that their dog discovered in Jersey called 'Revenge': http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/10/aston-villa-could-only-be-in-championship-for-a-seasonthey-may-w/

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2626 on: April 10, 2016, 11:01:05 PM »
It doesn't matter how much stick a fan is giving you - that is part of the game - you can not turn around and shout at them to "fuck off and die".

It's really that simple.

What about the other people sat around who would have heard that?

The bloke has no self control, he's a proven timebomb waiting to go off.

I don't know about that. In your job and my job we're not allowed to snap like that, no matter how much somebody's pissing us off. But if for a period 6 or 7 hours over the previous month we'd had somebody shouting "you're a fucking twat! You're a disgrace! Fuck off!" at us when we were trying to work, I don't think it's the crime of the century to bite back a bit.

Obviously it'd be better if it didn't happen but who can say how much abuse someone ought to take?

Yeah, but then again, if we had 30,000 people shouting "you fat wanker" or somesuch at us, we wouldn't like that, either.

Players don't turn round and tell the fans to fuck off, and neither should managers. "Fuck off and die" is a particularly horrible thing to say, too.

I'd rather not have a classless ****** like that managing our club. We might have had our dignity dragged through the mud in recent years, but that'd be too much for me.

And then there's all the other Pearson baggage - and for what? A manager with an entirely underwhelming record.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2627 on: April 10, 2016, 11:05:19 PM »
Regardless of the stick you are getting, you cannot tell someone to fuck off and die. Yes, Pearson is human, but this shows me he can't handle pressure.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2628 on: April 10, 2016, 11:05:52 PM »
It doesn't matter how much stick a fan is giving you - that is part of the game - you can not turn around and shout at them to "fuck off and die".

It's really that simple.

What about the other people sat around who would have heard that?

The bloke has no self control, he's a proven timebomb waiting to go off.

I don't know about that. In your job and my job we're not allowed to snap like that, no matter how much somebody's pissing us off. But if for a period 6 or 7 hours over the previous month we'd had somebody shouting "you're a fucking twat! You're a disgrace! Fuck off!" at us when we were trying to work, I don't think it's the crime of the century to bite back a bit.

Obviously it'd be better if it didn't happen but who can say how much abuse someone ought to take?

Yeah, but then again, if we had 30,000 people shouting "you fat wanker" or somesuch at us, we wouldn't like that, either.

Players don't turn round and tell the fans to fuck off, and neither should managers. "Fuck off and die" is a particularly horrible thing to say, too.

I'd rather not have a classless c*** like that managing our club. We might have had our dignity dragged through the mud in recent years, but that'd be too much for me.

And then there's all the other Pearson baggage - and for what? A manager with an entirely underwhelming record.

See, this puts me in mind of situations where those twats who abuse an opposition player or manager mercilessly for 85 minutes finally provoke him into giving them the finger and then run to the police to report him. If you're going to be a dick about things then you can't reasonably be upset when somebody calls you a c*nt every now and again. Why should any manager have to take it without having a go back?

I doubt, when the scales come out, that the fan would emerge the moral victor.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2629 on: April 10, 2016, 11:09:50 PM »
Regardless of the stick you are getting, you cannot tell someone to fuck off and die. Yes, Pearson is human, but this shows me he can't handle pressure.
yes he told him to fuck off and die , but in a cool and calm way without loosing his temper , he could have taken the eric cantona method of responding , but he didnt

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2630 on: April 10, 2016, 11:09:55 PM »
Steve Bruce is a 2 season manager.  If we got him I think he would do ok in fairness and he is a very big personality.  I would be fairly confident of him getting us up, keeping us there for a season but then you would have to replace him.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2631 on: April 10, 2016, 11:12:12 PM »
In other news, I can't work out whether this is a pitch or somebody serving up a very cold dish that their dog discovered in Jersey called 'Revenge': http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/10/aston-villa-could-only-be-in-championship-for-a-seasonthey-may-w/

"I look at their team and I don’t know who half the players are."

Yes Harry, that's because you're a twat who signs the same half a dozen players over and over again bankrupting each club you're at in the process.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2632 on: April 10, 2016, 11:13:02 PM »
Fuck off and die wasn't a good choice of words. But had he just told him to fuck off, after sustained abuse I can absolutely see why he snapped and said something. To me it doesn't show that he can't take pressure. It shows that one person after a lot of very personal abuse got to him to provoke that reaction. The bigger question is why didn't the stewards step in sooner? If I had my kid there, or even from a personal level I wouldn't want to hear one twat go on like that. This is football and I know things can get the better of us but there has to be limit to even that.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2633 on: April 10, 2016, 11:13:58 PM »
Regardless of the stick you are getting, you cannot tell someone to fuck off and die. Yes, Pearson is human, but this shows me he can't handle pressure.
yes he told him to fuck off and die , but in a cool and calm way without loosing his temper , he could have taken the eric cantona method of responding , but he didnt

Cool and calm would have been to ignore him completely.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2634 on: April 10, 2016, 11:14:05 PM »
Regardless of the stick you are getting, you cannot tell someone to fuck off and die. Yes, Pearson is human, but this shows me he can't handle pressure.
yes he told him to fuck off and die , but in a cool and calm way without loosing his temper , he could have taken the eric cantona method of responding , but he didnt

Phew, in which case he's a model pro and we should employ him tomorrow.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2635 on: April 10, 2016, 11:15:24 PM »
Fuck off and die wasn't a good choice of words. But had he just told him to fuck off, after sustained abuse I can absolutely see why he snapped and said something. To me it doesn't show that he can't take pressure. It shows that one person after a lot of very personal abuse got to him to provoke that reaction.

It's not just a one off though is it? He lost his rag with a junior reporter after a fairly innocuous question, then again the next week with Pat Murphy, not to mention the 'joke'' throttling.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2636 on: April 10, 2016, 11:19:38 PM »
Fuck off and die wasn't a good choice of words. But had he just told him to fuck off, after sustained abuse I can absolutely see why he snapped and said something. To me it doesn't show that he can't take pressure. It shows that one person after a lot of very personal abuse got to him to provoke that reaction.

It's not just a one off though is it? He lost his rag with a junior reporter after a fairly innocuous question, then again the next week with Pat Murphy, not to mention the 'joke'' throttling.
yeah he would sort those birmingham mail journalists out

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2637 on: April 10, 2016, 11:21:03 PM »
Fuck off and die wasn't a good choice of words. But had he just told him to fuck off, after sustained abuse I can absolutely see why he snapped and said something. To me it doesn't show that he can't take pressure. It shows that one person after a lot of very personal abuse got to him to provoke that reaction.

It's not just a one off though is it? He lost his rag with a junior reporter after a fairly innocuous question, then again the next week with Pat Murphy, not to mention the 'joke'' throttling.
yeah he would sort those birmingham mail journalists out

Hopefully, he won't need to as he will be overlooked for the Villa job.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2638 on: April 10, 2016, 11:21:39 PM »
Fuck off and die wasn't a good choice of words. But had he just told him to fuck off, after sustained abuse I can absolutely see why he snapped and said something. To me it doesn't show that he can't take pressure. It shows that one person after a lot of very personal abuse got to him to provoke that reaction.

It's not just a one off though is it? He lost his rag with a junior reporter after a fairly innocuous question, then again the next week with Pat Murphy, not to mention the 'joke'' throttling.

He doesn't like the press. That's for sure. He has some anger issues but that's not to say he hasn't had success as a manager. One of the important questions for the hiring committee would be if can manage his temper if things aren't going well? My comments are specifically about the incident with the fan which shouldn't have got to that stage on either side, and he certainly shouldn't have said what he did. But I can understand his frustration and anger at the situation.

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« Reply #2639 on: April 10, 2016, 11:25:38 PM »
If Nigel Pearson walked into Villa Park tomorrow he won't give a shit about the culture. Neither would Moyes. He'd be greeted by Hollis, the new board and told hold amazing the place can be again. He'd meet the players and would tell them in August to forget about the previous season because there's nothing that can be done. Along with new players he brings in they can make changes to the current without it being affected by any residual culture. It's not like a new manger or players would arrive at Villa and the weeds are growing, the lights don't work, the paint is peeling off the walls due to some neglect. They will be met by a sensational stadium and a new board looking very much to put things right quickly. Get a few wins and things change very quickly.

Spot on - I don't buy into the horseshit the likes of Rednapp are spouting about the club being in free fall through the divisions & that none of the players are good enough for the Premier League. With the right manager, proper coaching, some organisation & clearing out the wasters we'll be OK.

You only have to look at what Rowett has done with Small Heath to see how doing the basics right & getting someone in with an ounce of management skills can quickly turn things around and their team is full of free transfers.

It's time for the booing & constant calling for Lerner to go to stop, we've made our point & he's going nowhere. Our road back starts now, not in August.

But these useless fuckers shouldn't wear a Villa shirt again, Bacuna, Richards, Gabby & Lescott.

 


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