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Offline supertom

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2535 on: April 10, 2016, 03:51:52 PM »
At least Villa are getting relegated without a manager.

Unlike Newcastle and Sunderland with their world class managers Benitez and Allardyce

Look how much Newcastle spent in January too. I think the horse had bolted by the time the January window opened so I can understand the situation not to spend. The proviso is that there's money available to rebuild in the summer - Newcastle might not be in that position now.
Their squad is going to get decimated. Rats will be jumping ship, left, right and center and they may not have the money to do much to rebuild. We are a complete mess but Newcastle are even more of a circus than we are. They will probably fall harder.
The important thing for us is that the new board starts making sensible decisions and turning us around. I'm hoping that our academy, which is better than Sunderland and Newcastle's, might give us a leg up. But it's the signings we make to integrate with our youngsters which will be key.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2536 on: April 10, 2016, 03:53:28 PM »
Who has said Warnock would be a good appointment? You make it sound like loads have said they want him. There is a massive difference between saying in his defence he is doing a great job at Rotherham and saying I want him as Aston Villa manager.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2016, 04:01:59 PM by PeterWithesShin »

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2537 on: April 10, 2016, 03:57:41 PM »
I'd take Warnock. I think he'd stabilise us

You are joking ....... aren't you ....... aren't you!!

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2538 on: April 10, 2016, 04:02:41 PM »
I'd take Warnock. I think he'd stabilise us

You are joking ....... aren't you ....... aren't you!!

No , can't stand Bruce the only worse option than him for me would be Pulis

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2539 on: April 10, 2016, 04:04:30 PM »
Bruce is a relegation specialist and it would be a terrible appointment if it came to be.

Bruce who has admitted Hull are now unlikely to get automatic promotion as their form has collapsed.
If Steve "Fuckface" Bruce becomes our manager I will struggle to muster any enthusiasm or desire to watch his team.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2540 on: April 10, 2016, 04:05:36 PM »
Choosing between Warnock and Pulis is like being asked if you want to be hit in the balls with a hammer or a baseball bat.

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2541 on: April 10, 2016, 04:13:38 PM »
The important thing for us is that the new board starts making sensible decisions and turning us around. I'm hoping that our academy, which is better than Sunderland and Newcastle's, might give us a leg up. But it's the signings we make to integrate with our youngsters which will be key.

We will not be able to go out and buy a new squad due to the cost and the block it would put on the ambition of the young players.  You are right in that we are going to have to bring through quite a few from the U21's and look at the right type of players to bring in that will work with them.

It is therefore essential that a manager that can work with young players and develop them is brought in.  What we do not need is a manager that only goes out and buys players.  That is short term and will be no good for the club in the long run.  The usual formula for developing a young side is to get a manager the young players can relate to or a very good coach that they will respect.  I do not see those traits in many of the managers discussed so far.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2542 on: April 10, 2016, 04:17:17 PM »
However comical Newcastle were, they weren't in the same universe of shitness as we are now. They had just enough to build on and turn around. We have to start from the basement up. And after five years of getting almost everything wrong, we suddenly have to start getting most things right, while every ragtag outfit in the league lines up to have a pop. That's going to be some turnaround.

Again though you are looking at it from a Villa fan perspective, and all I am saying is Newcastle fans thought precisely that about their lot at the time. Yet their rag tag lot walked the division. I don't believe that our players are as bad as they have shown, but they need help from some new players and a fresh start with a manager that is going to unite them.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2543 on: April 10, 2016, 04:19:34 PM »
However comical Newcastle were, they weren't in the same universe of shitness as we are now. They had just enough to build on and turn around. We have to start from the basement up. And after five years of getting almost everything wrong, we suddenly have to start getting most things right, while every ragtag outfit in the league lines up to have a pop. That's going to be some turnaround.

Again though you are looking at it from a Villa fan perspective, and all I am saying is Newcastle fans thought precisely that about their lot at the time. Yet their rag tag lot walked the division. I don't believe that our players are as bad as they have shown, but they need help from some new players and a fresh start with a manager that is going to unite them.

I'd agree with that. If Moyes isn't available, Chris Hughton would be a good call.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2544 on: April 10, 2016, 04:24:03 PM »
I'm coming round to Hughton especially his record in the Championship. He has a very calm demeanour about him that we could do with at the club, and while Garde had that, what he didn't do is unite the group. Something we desperately needed post Sherwood. I do wonder though why he keeps going from job to job? You'd think he was competent enough to stay in one place for a decent length of time even if you accept his ceiling in the PL is mid table at best.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2016, 04:25:48 PM by Toronto Villa »

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2545 on: April 10, 2016, 04:24:43 PM »
There's only likely to be any chance of this happening if his current club doesn't get promoted this season, but I think Chris Hughton would be a really good appointment; a very safe pair of hands, he has knowledge and experience of managing in both the championship and premier league, and of the pressures of managing a 'big' club and all that goes with it.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2546 on: April 10, 2016, 04:28:17 PM »
You can have a strong character without having to shout and bawl. Garde always struck me as being very weak.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2547 on: April 10, 2016, 04:28:47 PM »
Hughton I can see being perfectly okay, but I can't help but feel that the club needs less stabilising than a complete top-to-bottom renovation. Hughton's a very steady kind of manager, and I'd worry that steadiness might turn into stagnation.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2548 on: April 10, 2016, 04:32:59 PM »
Do you not think Hughton will look at McLeish's time here and think 'no thanks'?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2549 on: April 10, 2016, 04:33:32 PM »
Hughton I can see being perfectly okay, but I can't help but feel that the club needs less stabilising than a complete top-to-bottom renovation. Hughton's a very steady kind of manager, and I'd worry that steadiness might turn into stagnation.

That's probably why he doesn't remain in a job for too long. That he has enough ability to get the players playing to a certain level and then they plateau. I suppose it is what separates the good and very good managers. Bruce or McCarthy are the same, but arguably worse. They can get a side promoted but you know before long things will go shit shaped. Maybe we need to adopt the Southampton approach or recently West Ham where we get up, settled and then go to someone to push us on again.

 


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