Manager for next season

[Toronto Villa]

I don't think they'll be bricking it at all. A lot of them will be relishing the prospect of playing us.

I bet they all wanted Newcastle too a few seasons back and most teams just got blown away. Everyone wants to play us now and I don't doubt we'd struggle against a League 2 side. It won't be like that next season and certainly not if we prepared ourselves correctly.

The last bit of your final sentence is the all important part. There's a lot of work to do, and comparisons with Newcastle of a few years ago don't really hold up.

They were abysmal like us. Had a comedy manager in charge, overpaid players who wanted nothing to do with the club, and a board just as useless and chaotic. There are plenty of parallels.

[Chris Jameson]

I doubt there is a single team 'bricking it' at the prospect of facing a no longer prepared Aston Villa.

[Walmley_Villa]

Bruce is a relegation specialist and it would be a terrible appointment if it came to be.

Bruce who has admitted Hull are now unlikely to get automatic promotion as their form has collapsed.

[garyshawsknee]

I don't think they'll be bricking it at all. A lot of them will be relishing the prospect of playing us.

I bet they all wanted Newcastle too a few seasons back and most teams just got blown away. Everyone wants to play us now and I don't doubt we'd struggle against a League 2 side. It won't be like that next season and certainly not if we prepared ourselves correctly.

The last bit of your final sentence is the all important part. There's a lot of work to do, and comparisons with Newcastle of a few years ago don't really hold up.

They were abysmal like us. Had a comedy manager in charge, overpaid players who wanted nothing to do with the club, and a board just as useless and chaotic. There are plenty of parallels.

Didn't they keep most of their squad together though ?  If we do that we wont be returning at the first attempt.

[pauliewalnuts]

I don't think they'll be bricking it at all. A lot of them will be relishing the prospect of playing us.

I bet they all wanted Newcastle too a few seasons back and most teams just got blown away. Everyone wants to play us now and I don't doubt we'd struggle against a League 2 side. It won't be like that next season and certainly not if we prepared ourselves correctly.

The last bit of your final sentence is the all important part. There's a lot of work to do, and comparisons with Newcastle of a few years ago don't really hold up.

They were abysmal like us. Had a comedy manager in charge, overpaid players who wanted nothing to do with the club, and a board just as useless and chaotic. There are plenty of parallels.

Indeed - that year they went down, they were managed by Kevin Keegan, Joe Fucking Kinnear and Alan Shearer.

That's about as comedic as it gets - they were every bit as big a basket case as we have been for the last few years. They too had a squad choc full of players who couldn't have given a flying fuck.

[Toronto Villa]

I don't think they'll be bricking it at all. A lot of them will be relishing the prospect of playing us.

I bet they all wanted Newcastle too a few seasons back and most teams just got blown away. Everyone wants to play us now and I don't doubt we'd struggle against a League 2 side. It won't be like that next season and certainly not if we prepared ourselves correctly.

The last bit of your final sentence is the all important part. There's a lot of work to do, and comparisons with Newcastle of a few years ago don't really hold up.

They were abysmal like us. Had a comedy manager in charge, overpaid players who wanted nothing to do with the club, and a board just as useless and chaotic. There are plenty of parallels.

Didn't they keep most of their squad together though ?  If we do that we wont be returning at the first attempt.

They did. My point being Newcastle fans were probably saying exactly the same thing at the time. That they needed wholesale changes. And I bet they were hardly tickled pink by Hughton becoming their manager tasked with bringing them back up. Yet somehow he galvanized them to piss the division. I'm not so naive to think we would do the same but we need to get out of this season get a good manager in who won't divide and alienate these players. We are not getting rid of all of them, so whoever comes in will need to make this group play as a unit. It's not an impossible task.

[pauliewalnuts]

I don't think they'll be bricking it at all. A lot of them will be relishing the prospect of playing us.

I bet they all wanted Newcastle too a few seasons back and most teams just got blown away. Everyone wants to play us now and I don't doubt we'd struggle against a League 2 side. It won't be like that next season and certainly not if we prepared ourselves correctly.

The last bit of your final sentence is the all important part. There's a lot of work to do, and comparisons with Newcastle of a few years ago don't really hold up.

They were abysmal like us. Had a comedy manager in charge, overpaid players who wanted nothing to do with the club, and a board just as useless and chaotic. There are plenty of parallels.

Didn't they keep most of their squad together though ?  If we do that we wont be returning at the first attempt.

They wanted to shift most of them.

Look at some of the horrific shit on this list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%9309_Newcastle_United_F.C._season

[tomd2103]

I don't think they'll be bricking it at all. A lot of them will be relishing the prospect of playing us.

I bet they all wanted Newcastle too a few seasons back and most teams just got blown away. Everyone wants to play us now and I don't doubt we'd struggle against a League 2 side. It won't be like that next season and certainly not if we prepared ourselves correctly.

The last bit of your final sentence is the all important part. There's a lot of work to do, and comparisons with Newcastle of a few years ago don't really hold up.

They were abysmal like us. Had a comedy manager in charge, overpaid players who wanted nothing to do with the club, and a board just as useless and chaotic. There are plenty of parallels.

Didn't they keep most of their squad together though ?  If we do that we wont be returning at the first attempt.

They wanted to shift most of them.

Look at some of the horrific shit on this list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%9309_Newcastle_United_F.C._season

Didn't they have something like four or five players on over £100,000 a week as well?  I heard a Newcastle fan on 606 saying that Taylor and Coloccini was the CB partnership that season and unbelievably it is the partnership they find themselves with now.  Echoes of us there, with players dropped years ago for not being good enough finding their way back into the side time and time again.

[OCD]

I see N'Zogbia was in that Newcastle squad. Maybe his attitude is infectious?

[Small Rodent]

At least Villa are getting relegated without a manager.

Unlike Newcastle and Sunderland with their world class managers Benitez and Allardyce

[Jimbo]

However comical Newcastle were, they weren't in the same universe of shitness as we are now. They had just enough to build on and turn around. We have to start from the basement up. And after five years of getting almost everything wrong, we suddenly have to start getting most things right, while every ragtag outfit in the league lines up to have a pop. That's going to be some turnaround.

[Quiet Lion]

Reading this thread I honest wonder if there is an inside joke going on that I don't get. People seem to be saying that Neil Warnock, Mick McCarthy et al would be good appointments for Aston Villa?

A few more pages and people will be coming round to the idea of Joe Kinnear being just what we need to stabilise us and get the best of the squad.

[OCD]

At least Villa are getting relegated without a manager.

Unlike Newcastle and Sunderland with their world class managers Benitez and Allardyce

Look how much Newcastle spent in January too. I think the horse had bolted by the time the January window opened so I can understand the situation not to spend. The proviso is that there's money available to rebuild in the summer - Newcastle might not be in that position now.

[supertom]

Reading this thread I honest wonder if there is an inside joke going on that I don't get. People seem to be saying that Neil Warnock, Mick McCarthy et al would be good appointments for Aston Villa?

A few more pages and people will be coming round to the idea of Joe Kinnear being just what we need to stabilise us and get the best of the squad.

Joe won't come to us. Not with the great Charles Insomnia leaving us in May.

[john e]

Reading this thread I honest wonder if there is an inside joke going on that I don't get. People seem to be saying that Neil Warnock, Mick McCarthy et al would be good appointments for Aston Villa?

A few more pages and people will be coming round to the idea of Joe Kinnear being just what we need to stabilise us and get the best of the squad.

Id take both before Bruce