Manager for next season

[ktvillan]

So the new Board are also of the opinion it has to be someone English (British?) and with experience of the Championship.  So much for the new broom and having football knowledge on the Board.   To me it's similar thinking to "The England manager must be English" (and look where that got England) and just leads to clueless fuckwits like McCarthy and McLaren gaining regular lucrative employment.

[VillaAlways]

Both Mccarthy and Pearson know the Championship so well and are smart and tough, so I think either one could do a good job.

Their extended experience of the Championship could also be viewed as a bad thing.  The best managers would pass through rather than spend most of their time managing there in my opinion.

But the other candidates people want are either already managing in the Premier League or will be next season. Apart from Moyes who I just don't think will come

[pauliewalnuts]

There are plenty of managers who would have a decent chance of getting us up. Thats not all we need, though, not by an absolute mile.

Yes, it is our pressing concern, but we need to do more than get back up and go back to clinging on like a more illustrious Wigan.

The club needs a year zero style change from top to bottom. It particularly needs to be reinvigorated, to have some long term hope instilled in it.

That is not going to happen with a manager like Bruce or Pearson. They might be decent appointments for some but they both smell of acceptance of our new status to me, when what we want is our former status back.

Moyes would be a coup - being able to attract a manager like that when not even in the top flight sends out a message - and he has significant experience keeping Everton at a level we used to be at.

[Gregorys Boy]

So the new Board are also of the opinion it has to be someone English (British?) and with experience of the Championship.  So much for the new broom and having football knowledge on the Board.   To me it's similar thinking to "The England manager must be English" (and look where that got England) and just leads to clueless fuckwits like McCarthy and McLaren gaining regular lucrative employment.

Those two don't belong in the same sentence.  McCarthy has a far better track record than McLaren.

What I'm saying is that if we can't get Moyes (which I think is still a long shot) then I think we have to be realistic about who we can attract as Championship side.  The like of Dyce, McCarthy and Pearson are far safer bets than going for another punt like we did with Garde.

[mr underhill]

who's Dyce? Are we rolling for him?

[VillaAlways]

There are plenty of managers who would have a decent chance of getting us up. Thats not all we need, though, not by an absolute mile.

Yes, it is our pressing concern, but we need to do more than get back up and go back to clinging on like a more illustrious Wigan.

The club needs a year zero style change from top to bottom. It particularly needs to be reinvigorated, to have some long term hope instilled in it.

That is not going to happen with a manager like Bruce or Pearson. They might be decent appointments for some but they both smell of acceptance of our new status to me, when what we want is our former status back.

Moyes would be a coup - being able to attract a manager like that when not even in the top flight sends out a message - and he has significant experience keeping Everton at a level we used to be at.

Moyes would be perfect but if he doesn't come I can't think of anyone else apart from the usual suspects as Bernstein has said he wants a British manager.
We are where we are I'm afraid

[pauliewalnuts]

Well we need to do some creative thinking.

Don't get me wrong, we are an utter shambles from top to bottom and relegated, there's no escaping that, but I can't stand all this fucking "we'll have to accept Mick McCarthy because we will never get anyone better" fatalism.

What's the point in giving up on the future? Aren't we telling ourselves we've got a board who understand football now? Why assume the worst from them already?

[Dante Lavelli]

From my perspective, none of the options after Moyes appeal to me. 

I'd prefer to gamble on an unknown quantity like Grayson than Pearson or one of the long in the tooth but ultimately average English managers that are being linked.

[pauliewalnuts]

From my perspective, none of the options after Moyes appeal to me. 

I'd prefer to gamble on an unknown quantity like Grayson than Pearson or one of the long in the tooth but ultimately average English managers that are being linked.

So would I.

[Gregorys Boy]

Well we need to do some creative thinking.

Don't get me wrong, we are an utter shambles from top to bottom and relegated, there's no escaping that, but I can't stand all this fucking "we'll have to accept Mick McCarthy because we will never get anyone better" fatalism.

What's the point in giving up on the future? Aren't we telling ourselves we've got a board who understand football now? Why assume the worst from them already?

I think we are talking the difference between long term and short term thinking.  With someone like McCarthy (who I think is a good manager) then I think there's a fairly good chance we would come back up, then it would be taking a gamble that he could keep us there.  Whereas Moyes, and perhaps Dynce (because of his youth and forward thinking ideas), and Pearson would give us a better chance of staying up long term.  I just don't think there's anything wrong with being realistic.

[VillaAlways]

I don't look at it as giving up on the future, look at West Ham as an example that's exactly the route they took and it's worked out ok for them. You could say the same for Leicester

[Billy Walker]

There are plenty of managers who would have a decent chance of getting us up. Thats not all we need, though, not by an absolute mile.

Yes, it is our pressing concern, but we need to do more than get back up and go back to clinging on like a more illustrious Wigan.

The club needs a year zero style change from top to bottom. It particularly needs to be reinvigorated, to have some long term hope instilled in it.

That is not going to happen with a manager like Bruce or Pearson. They might be decent appointments for some but they both smell of acceptance of our new status to me, when what we want is our former status back.

Moyes would be a coup - being able to attract a manager like that when not even in the top flight sends out a message - and he has significant experience keeping Everton at a level we used to be at.

Moyes would be perfect but if he doesn't come I can't think of anyone else apart from the usual suspects as Bernstein has said he wants a British manager.
We are where we are I'm afraid

He said "English" and I'd be surprised if the former boss of the English FA didn't know the difference between that and the term "British".  It all seems to point to Pearson.

[Toronto Villa]

There are plenty of managers who would have a decent chance of getting us up. Thats not all we need, though, not by an absolute mile.

Yes, it is our pressing concern, but we need to do more than get back up and go back to clinging on like a more illustrious Wigan.

The club needs a year zero style change from top to bottom. It particularly needs to be reinvigorated, to have some long term hope instilled in it.

That is not going to happen with a manager like Bruce or Pearson. They might be decent appointments for some but they both smell of acceptance of our new status to me, when what we want is our former status back.

Moyes would be a coup - being able to attract a manager like that when not even in the top flight sends out a message - and he has significant experience keeping Everton at a level we used to be at.

Moyes would be perfect but if he doesn't come I can't think of anyone else apart from the usual suspects as Bernstein has said he wants a British manager.
We are where we are I'm afraid

He said "English" and I'd be surprised if the former boss of the English FA didn't know the difference between that and the term "British".  It all seems to point to Pearson.

Did he? I read the article in the Daily Mail and the writer states that as opposed to it being something quoted by Bernstein.

[Boz]

John Carver has put his hat in the ring as well, lots experience with a club  in the Sh*t 

[brontebilly]

Chris Hughton is worth considering I reckon. Super jobs done at Newcastle, Blues and Brighton. Used to taking over absolute rabbles and the dressing room at Newcastle was equally as poisonous as our current one.