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Offline conman

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1560 on: April 02, 2016, 02:08:05 AM »
Dour is not a personal insult, it is stating a fact on his manner. Poor is again a statement of fact on his ability to manage in the premier league. He has done nothing to justify being linked with the job.

And great. 110% each week. That is clearly all that is needed.
ok well as i said earlier , i dont care if the new manager has the ability to manage in the premier league , because to me promotion is more important but thats just my opinion  , and i believe having a dour manner is not a characteristic that makes a bad manager , its irrelevant , anyway , dour is the last thing i would describe mcCarthy as  ,, Goodnight

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1561 on: April 02, 2016, 03:47:20 AM »
Dour is not a personal insult, it is stating a fact on his manner. Poor is again a statement of fact on his ability to manage in the premier league. He has done nothing to justify being linked with the job.

And great. 110% each week. That is clearly all that is needed.
ok well as i said earlier , i dont care if the new manager has the ability to manage in the premier league , because to me promotion is more important but thats just my opinion  , and i believe having a dour manner is not a characteristic that makes a bad manager , its irrelevant , anyway , dour is the last thing i would describe mcCarthy as  ,, Goodnight

So then what happens when we get promoted? We fire the guy and pay out another 3 year contract? McCarthy has proven himself to be a failure in the PL. As has Bruce, so why even consider them? Because in a couple of years time we will be guaranteed to be circle the drain yet again, back to square one.

Offline Bottom Right 89

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1562 on: April 02, 2016, 08:27:35 AM »
Carver is such a wind up, think the club should double bluff him and string him along for an interview, leak a few positive stories about him make up some fan polls with him as favourite. They should get that guy Claude off the apprentice to do the interview - its says on your cv you're ambitious? You made the half time tea at Newcastle for 50 years!

Guarantee last home game of the season motd cameras will pan round showing Carver in the crowd with a smug grin on his face as Newcastle fans rub relegation in our faces, the guys an arsehole.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1563 on: April 02, 2016, 08:59:59 AM »
McCarthy would be met with even more frustration than McLeish was from the stands. The man can't manage in the premier league at all. Much like Neil Warnock, basic football for promotion, then inevitably followed with relegation.

John Carver openly wanted us relegated last season, the giant cock. His application is an attempt at a joke I am sure. And that is before looking at his erm.. skill set.

Just go and sort Moyes Villa. Come on.

Whilst McCarthy wouldn't be my choice, I'm not sure he'd be met with the same frustration as Mcleish. Fans would just be frustrated because he wasn't Moyes but I agree, we need someone who going to keep us up once we were up. Taking the short term approach of getting up and worrying about it later would be wrong. I do like the bloke though, but not for us I don't think.

Offline PaulWinch again

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1564 on: April 02, 2016, 09:11:41 AM »
Mick McCarthy absolutely fucking not.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1565 on: April 02, 2016, 09:13:27 AM »
Carver has about as much chance of getting the job as me.

Offline Nunkin1965

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1566 on: April 02, 2016, 09:34:37 AM »
Carver has about as much chance of getting the job as me.

Christ I hope we make the right appointment. This time round there's a queue forming for managers to take the job and there is probably more choice.

I wouldn't have put it past the old board regime to have gone and picked someone like Carver on his half time tea making abilities!

This time it's crucial the appointment is the right one. Don't screw it up again Villa.

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1567 on: April 02, 2016, 10:22:16 AM »
Dour is not a personal insult, it is stating a fact on his manner. Poor is again a statement of fact on his ability to manage in the premier league. He has done nothing to justify being linked with the job.

And great. 110% each week. That is clearly all that is needed.
ok well as i said earlier , i dont care if the new manager has the ability to manage in the premier league , because to me promotion is more important but thats just my opinion  , and i believe having a dour manner is not a characteristic that makes a bad manager , its irrelevant , anyway , dour is the last thing i would describe mcCarthy as  ,, Goodnight

So then what happens when we get promoted? We fire the guy and pay out another 3 year contract? McCarthy has proven himself to be a failure in the PL. As has Bruce, so why even consider them? Because in a couple of years time we will be guaranteed to be circle the drain yet again, back to square one.

'Failure' is a bit harsh on Bruce in my opionion.  I would say that he regularly gets small clubs to over achieve, playing organised, functional football, however I don't think he is suited to managing a big club.

Furthermore, I would not want him as Villa manager because one key attributes  I want in the new manager - admittedly one in my head - is the opportunity to dream beyond lower PL status.  Success for Bruce/McCarthy/Alladyce and managers of that ilk is creating a "Pulis" team.  I want the club to aspire beyond that.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2016, 10:24:07 AM by Dante Lavelli »

Offline villabear

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1568 on: April 02, 2016, 10:26:01 AM »
Can we read anything into the fact that Steve Round has been speaking to Adrian Bevvington?  As Moyes previous number two he must still be in contact with him.

I've thought about the prospect of Pearson and a couple of things stand out for me. Even though Leicester went on that amazing run at the end of last season before that they were rubbish and were getting beaten virtually every week (sound familiar?) Also the staff that we're with him are still there and I would have thought are highly unlikely to give up on a Champions League campaign.

Moyes for me. There I've said it.

Offline LeeB

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1569 on: April 02, 2016, 10:31:39 AM »
I keep reading people dismissing certain candidates as they question what they'd achieve once we were back in the top flight.

I can't help but think that this kind of thinking is the fast track to the third division.

Offline JUAN PABLO

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1570 on: April 02, 2016, 10:31:55 AM »
Anyone who has the ability to kick the following out of the club permanently - preferably head first:

Gabby
CNZ
Richards
Richardson
Lescott
Bacuna
Guzan
Hutton
Clark
Wesrwood

its not going to happen if players are on big contracts , what other club would pay these useless lot the same wage .

Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1571 on: April 02, 2016, 10:42:50 AM »
I keep reading people dismissing certain candidates as they question what they'd achieve once we were back in the top flight.

I can't help but think that this kind of thinking is the fast track to the third division.
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Absolutely, people are forgetting that we are in fact going to be in the Championship. Priority is to get out of it. All the managers linked have done that I'm afraid I feel we do need to be looking at the likes of Bruce, McCarthy, Pearson. Let's worry about whether they can hack it in the Premier League if / when we get back up there.

I haven't listed Moyes as I just don't think he will come.



« Last Edit: April 02, 2016, 10:46:15 AM by VillaAlways »

Offline Nev

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1572 on: April 02, 2016, 10:43:58 AM »
I wanted Moyes when O'Neil left. I thought he might have fancied a new challenge having spent so long at Everton.

In the interim I have still retained a fancy that he might manage us one day. Looking at the names on the list at the moment, he is the only one who comes near my criteria to manage us. However, I don't think he will drop down to the First Division and my other reservation if he were to get the job would be the rather pragmatic style of football.

Maybe a word from the likes of Brian Little or Graham Taylor would help......

Offline Pete3206

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1573 on: April 02, 2016, 10:54:14 AM »
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Moyes for me. There I've said it.

For me, this is the number 1 option and a dream scenario given our current plight. Villa should do everything and anything to get this bloke. Don't invite him to apply, get him in a room and offer him the chance to get us up again.

Beggars can't be choosers and God knows we're currently beggars, but this is a great opportunity imo.

Offline four fornicholl

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1574 on: April 02, 2016, 10:57:17 AM »
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Moyes for me. There I've said it.

For me, this is the number 1 option and a dream scenario given our current plight. Villa should do everything and anything to get this bloke. Don't invite him to apply, get him in a room and offer him the chance to get us up again.

Beggars can't be choosers and God knows we're currently beggars, but this is a great opportunity imo.
Just a thought and I know they say never go back, but could he not be thinking of returning to Everton, if given the choice who would he choose?

 


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