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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1425 on: March 31, 2016, 01:17:57 PM »
There's no 'appears' about it as it's not rumours or anything, you can watch the videos online of him being an odious twunt. He's going to go postal at some stage, and if he was cracking at a shitty little club like Leicester, then the pressure here if things aren't going well could be what sends him over the edge. Even if he is a great manager, which I highly doubt, I want him to be someone else's problem, not ours.

Yeah, I'm not a Pearson fan either

But there's been a lot of top managers over the years who have been a bit bonkers to be fair
Even the greatest of them all fought with his own fans on the pitch

I'm not totally against Pearson either but for all of his rants, it was really after the starting to crack bit that something happened and his Leicester side who were dead certs for relegation became simple unstoppable. He's got a record that shows he can secure promotions and maybe he has learned something, both professionally and personally from his previous experience. He made some very poor decisions, but can he get past them? It's a little like those who watch Joey Barton play, and the influence he's had at Burnley. His past makes Pearson look like a cuddly bunny, but sometimes people need time to reflect and grow up.

He's not my number one choice by any means, but I'd be open minded to consider him. The obvious drawback is his support staff and we already know with Garde how critical that is to have in place.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1426 on: March 31, 2016, 01:20:17 PM »
And Sherwood (Ramsey) and Lambert when his people were got rid of, and Houllier (I think Gary Mac was a decent appointment as number 2 though in fairness). Even Little went south after the exit of Gregory, Gregory struggled after his assistant left too.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1427 on: March 31, 2016, 01:24:50 PM »
And Sherwood (Ramsey) and Lambert when his people were got rid of, and Houllier (I think Gary Mac was a decent appointment as number 2 though in fairness). Even Little went south after the exit of Gregory, Gregory struggled after his assistant left too.

That's the concern. Lambert was already going in the toilet before we canned his two idiot assistants. The question will be for whoever we try and appoint can any of them bring exactly who they want with him?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1428 on: March 31, 2016, 01:26:35 PM »
There's no 'appears' about it as it's not rumours or anything, you can watch the videos online of him being an odious twunt. He's going to go postal at some stage, and if he was cracking at a shitty little club like Leicester, then the pressure here if things aren't going well could be what sends him over the edge. Even if he is a great manager, which I highly doubt, I want him to be someone else's problem, not ours.

Yeah, I'm not a Pearson fan either

But there's been a lot of top managers over the years who have been a bit bonkers to be fair
Even the greatest of them all fought with his own fans on the pitch

And could you imagine if a manager gave his owns fans a slap these days? Still amazes me he got away with just a touchline ban for it even back then.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1429 on: March 31, 2016, 01:27:00 PM »
I know he's not a popular figure but I'd love to see Joey Barton getting stuck into the likes of Agbonlahor and Richards, Moyes as manager with Barton as his 'enforcer' on the pitch. I might have just created a new role, 'Director of enforcing'.

For all his talk, Barton did little to address the wasters at QPR during his time there.  In fact, I remember Graeme Souness saying something similar after an interview with Barton on SKY. 

I have a hunch that he might, one day, become a very good manager.  He's been doing his coaching badges and was also reading philosophy at university so he will not be lacking in education compared to most ex-players.  I also think he comes across well in interviews, both articulate and interesting, so he may have the personality to motivate players too.

The test will be whether he can control his inner chimp sufficiently to not lamp a linesman when things are going badly.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1430 on: March 31, 2016, 01:30:24 PM »
Moyes would likely want Round, Neville (P) or Irvine I would imagine. Not sure who else he had but you would think he would have a decent chance of those 3 if he wanted them (plus taking Irvine off Lambert would be funny)

Pearson would want Walsh and Shakespear - neither are likely to leave a club heading into the champions league having signed new contracts, if Ranieiri got the Italy job they might think again.

Grayson would be coming from Preston, so you would think would get who he wanted easily enough with a bit of negotiation

Rodgers seemed to replace half his backroom team last season and is going back to admiring the best Wales has to offer anyway by the looks of it.

If we went for Dyche, I would think it would be a case of having to negotiate for his team not just him. Difficult to see him coming in.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1431 on: March 31, 2016, 01:38:01 PM »
There's no 'appears' about it as it's not rumours or anything, you can watch the videos online of him being an odious twunt. He's going to go postal at some stage, and if he was cracking at a shitty little club like Leicester, then the pressure here if things aren't going well could be what sends him over the edge. Even if he is a great manager, which I highly doubt, I want him to be someone else's problem, not ours.

Yeah, I'm not a Pearson fan either

But there's been a lot of top managers over the years who have been a bit bonkers to be fair
Even the greatest of them all fought with his own fans on the pitch

And could you imagine if a manager gave his owns fans a slap these days? Still amazes me he got away with just a touchline ban for it even back then.

You could get away with loads of 'stuff' in those days

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1432 on: March 31, 2016, 01:42:09 PM »
I want us to hire the best manager possible but one who doesn't have a clear and very defined ceiling to their ability in the PL. Steve Bruce, I have no doubt would get us promoted. However he has proved, despite having lots of money to spend at Sunderland and Hull that he just cannot manage at the top level. I really don't want to get back up with a sense of inevitability of what comes next.

I would agree with that statement 9 times out of 10, but my concern with looking too far ahead is that we'll fail to get the first job done, which is to achieve promotion.

We're in a position we very rarely find ourselves in, I think it may need a different approach.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1433 on: March 31, 2016, 01:46:48 PM »
Moyes would likely want Round, Neville (P) or Irvine I would imagine. Not sure who else he had but you would think he would have a decent chance of those 3 if he wanted them (plus taking Irvine off Lambert would be funny)

Pearson would want Walsh and Shakespear - neither are likely to leave a club heading into the champions league having signed new contracts, if Ranieiri got the Italy job they might think again.

Grayson would be coming from Preston, so you would think would get who he wanted easily enough with a bit of negotiation

Rodgers seemed to replace half his backroom team last season and is going back to admiring the best Wales has to offer anyway by the looks of it.

If we went for Dyche, I would think it would be a case of having to negotiate for his team not just him. Difficult to see him coming in.


Whilst Moyes would probably demand more in salary, the fact that we will not be paying compensation to extract him and his team from another club is another justification in trying to appoint him.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1434 on: March 31, 2016, 02:09:37 PM »
I would favour someone who's shown he can do well in the Championship recently. Be that Pearson, Dyche, Warburton or Hughton. I wouldn't be too upset if we nicked Gary Rowett either.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1435 on: March 31, 2016, 02:23:17 PM »
Pearson.  Two promotions. Right 'tool' for the job. 

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1436 on: March 31, 2016, 02:49:50 PM »
I would go for someone proven to get teams out if the championship. Moyes is not that man.

The slightly nutty Pearson or Bruce for me.

(I know I've changed my view in 24 hours, call me Cameron)

Why is it that we scoffed at "Premier League experience needed" in the past but Championship experience is now vital? As with players it seems the Championship is some sort of unique entity, the only level of football that requires a different skill set to everywhere else when in reality it's exactly the same - the best wins.

Leicester aren't the best team.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1437 on: March 31, 2016, 02:50:50 PM »
We need another Scottish manager. It's been far too long.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1438 on: March 31, 2016, 02:51:50 PM »
We need another Scottish manager. It's been far too long.

I know it's said tongue in cheek but it really doesn't matter about his nationality does it?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1439 on: March 31, 2016, 02:56:27 PM »
I would go for someone proven to get teams out if the championship. Moyes is not that man.

The slightly nutty Pearson or Bruce for me.

(I know I've changed my view in 24 hours, call me Cameron)

Why is it that we scoffed at "Premier League experience needed" in the past but Championship experience is now vital? As with players it seems the Championship is some sort of unique entity, the only level of football that requires a different skill set to everywhere else when in reality it's exactly the same - the best wins.

Leicester aren't the best team.

They are this year, same as we're the worst.

 


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