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Offline Chris Smith

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1305 on: March 30, 2016, 02:16:35 PM »
Less than 24 hours after sacking a manager we are talking about when to dispense with his potential successor when there is nothing of substance to say he is even in the frame. The weird and wacky world of Heroes and Villains.

Offline Stu

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1306 on: March 30, 2016, 02:17:22 PM »
A lot of baggies fans rate Pearson highly for his time there as No2 and caretaker manager when they apparently never lost a game and are apparently hoping we don't get him.

His (Pearson) backroom staff, Walsh and Shakespeare, are still at Leicester. I don't think they'll be beating a path to our door to follow Pearson should he be appointed here.

Offline Rudy Can't Fail

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1307 on: March 30, 2016, 02:21:33 PM »
Less than 24 hours after sacking a manager we are talking about when to dispense with his potential successor when there is nothing of substance to say he is even in the frame. The weird and wacky world of Heroes and Villains.

Ha! You know it makes sense, Chris.

BTW, I'm still waiting for photographic evidence of you eating your hat after Cahill captained England. ;)

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1308 on: March 30, 2016, 02:23:16 PM »
There's a number of things that I have read about Pearson that I like. There's a number of other things that I have read about Pearson that I don't like. What doesn't get discussed enough is the work he did at Leicester outside of the months where they sat at or near the bottom of the PL. That he did actually get them into the PL and he did sign a lot of the players that have taken Leicester to the top of the table. He comes across as a very dislikeable person but then again I'm not looking to take warm showers with him (Heartbreak Ridge reference). I would need him to be a good football manager, and his record isn't terrible. The key thing for me is who else is out there that we can actually attract, and if there are better overall candidates we should be trying to get them.

I am limited in how much I care about the nice guy / bad guy thing, but Pearson is fucking nuts, it's not entirely about nice or bad guy.

If you can get over the whole embarrassment of his press conferences and that weird touch line thing with an opposition player, there's him telling one of their fans behind the bench to "fuck off and die".

If his record was amazing, I'd be happier to overlook stuff like that, but it's not.

I'd rather Dyche than Pearson, for example.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1309 on: March 30, 2016, 02:39:13 PM »
Less than 24 hours after sacking a manager we are talking about when to dispense with his potential successor when there is nothing of substance to say he is even in the frame. The weird and wacky world of Heroes and Villains.

Ha! You know it makes sense, Chris.

BTW, I'm still waiting for photographic evidence of you eating your hat after Cahill captained England. ;)

Did I really say I would eat my hat? I definitely didn't, and still don't, think he is good enough to be England captain but it just isn't a phrase I tend to use.

In order to honour my debt you'll have to lend me one of your baseball caps, Rudy, as I don't own a hat.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1310 on: March 30, 2016, 02:41:56 PM »
Less than 24 hours after sacking a manager we are talking about when to dispense with his potential successor when there is nothing of substance to say he is even in the frame. The weird and wacky world of Heroes and Villains.

Ha! You know it makes sense, Chris.

BTW, I'm still waiting for photographic evidence of you eating your hat after Cahill captained England. ;)

Did I really say I would eat my hat? I definitely didn't, and still don't, think he is good enough to be England captain but it just isn't a phrase I tend to use.

In order to honour my debt you'll have to lend me one of your baseball caps, Rudy, as I don't own a hat.

It will have to be a flat cap. I spent far too many years in Yorkshire.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1311 on: March 30, 2016, 02:44:16 PM »
I was a bit worried when I saw 'Villa want Briton to replace Garde' on the BBC, I thought hang on a minute, has Leon Briton even retired yet? Then I realised we were back to our old criteria of British only, wish I guess is fair enough as we want to minimize the risk by having somebody who knows the leagues over here.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1312 on: March 30, 2016, 03:18:45 PM »
Will Randy pay compensation for a manager still in a job? Just looking at the candidates they are mostly out of work.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1313 on: March 30, 2016, 03:24:36 PM »
Will Randy pay compensation for a manager still in a job? Just looking at the candidates they are mostly out of work.

Shouldn't be an issue - he's paid for 3 in the last 12 months  ;)

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1314 on: March 30, 2016, 03:29:32 PM »
Seems Dyche is as popular as Donald Trump .. Why ?   He got Burnley promoted previously & could well do it again this year ...surely thats the 'type' of manager we require ? 
and he got Burnley relegated  at the first time of asking.

Offline go on the dog

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1315 on: March 30, 2016, 03:56:59 PM »
Ruud Gullitt wants the job :o

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1316 on: March 30, 2016, 04:06:33 PM »
Ruud Gullitt wants the job :o

So do I, he probably has less chance of getting it than I do.

Offline Matt C

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1317 on: March 30, 2016, 04:06:48 PM »
Aside from him being barking, one of the major drawbacks of Pearson is his trusted assistants are locked in at Leicester and you'd imagine, highly unlikely to be going anywhere. We should hopefully have learnt a lesson in that respect about appointing managers without their teams.

Steve Round is available to join Moyes though.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1318 on: March 30, 2016, 04:26:31 PM »
Will Randy pay compensation for a manager still in a job? Just looking at the candidates they are mostly out of work.

You can add Mourinho to that list, no compo top pay there........ Sorted

Offline SirSteveUK

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1319 on: March 30, 2016, 04:55:37 PM »
For what it is worth - a view from Goodison

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Everton fan in peace, just thought I'd offer a view on Moyes for you.

He'll want to bring in his usual clique of backroom staff - Steve Round, Jimmy Lumsden, Robbie Cooke. Cooke was chief scout, Round was his Assistant Manager. I don't think an Everton or United fan could tell you what role Jimmy Lumsden plays aside from being a Lou Carpenter impersonator.

His record at bringing youth players through and managing them properly is patchy at best. He never seemed to know what to do with Barkley, Rooney hated him by the end of his time with us, he signed Stones and never played him despite us being desperately short in central defence while we had him.

In his 11 years in charge I think I'd be right in saying he gave debuts to 7 or so academy players - Rooney, James Vaughan, Victor Anichebe, Leon Osman, Jack Rodwell, Jose Baxter and Barkley. So if you're looking to him to use academy players I don't think that'd be his approach. I always thought he viewed the kids as a last resort.

He's tactically inflexible, if you get him it'll be a static 4-5-1 for eternity. Forget about game changing or system changing substitutions as well, he'll dither with them as much as he does in the transfer market meaning you'll miss out on obtainable targets. Some of the players you've said in here you don't like are definite Moyes type players, this is the man who gave Anichebe 167 games at Everton :uhoh:

The Championship's a tough division, I don't think Moyes could handle it in all honesty - that division demands a manager who's been there and done it, Moyes hasn't managed there for about 14 years now.

Hope you get yourselves sorted, I've always enjoyed my visits to Villa Park over the years :thumbup:

 


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