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Offline SheffieldVillain

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1290 on: March 29, 2016, 12:32:32 PM »
Seems Dyche is as popular as Donald Trump .. Why ?   He got Burnley promoted previously & could well do it again this year ...surely thats the 'type' of manager we require ? 

Both McLeish and Lambert got teams promoted as well but I wouldn't want their type here again.

I hear you, but whats your problem with Dyche?

Flip it the other way. Genuine question - aside from a promotion on his CV, what convinces you he is the right man for the job?

Because that should be the question we're asking when appointing.

Offline claretandblue barmy

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1291 on: March 29, 2016, 01:03:44 PM »
Seems Dyche is as popular as Donald Trump .. Why ?   He got Burnley promoted previously & could well do it again this year ...surely thats the 'type' of manager we require ? 

Both McLeish and Lambert got teams promoted as well but I wouldn't want their type here again.

I hear you, but whats your problem with Dyche?

Flip it the other way. Genuine question - aside from a promotion on his CV, what convinces you he is the right man for the job?

Because that should be the question we're asking when appointing.

Firstly just to clarify... My1st choice would be Moyes ... although his one problem may be that he has been away from the championship too long ..   However if Dyche was appointed I honestly think he could get us promoted first time of asking and keep us there with some decent funding, I have watched his Burnley teams on a few occasions whilst up North and his style of play and attitude seem spot on to me  .

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1292 on: March 29, 2016, 01:07:08 PM »
Why does being away from the championship too long make him a questionable candidate to manage a football club at that level? Is he a competent manager or isn't he and would his ability to manage differentiate him from anyone else we could possibly hire?

Offline conman

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1293 on: March 29, 2016, 01:09:05 PM »

Seems Dyche is as popular as Donald Trump .. Why ?   He got Burnley promoted previously & could well do it again this year ...surely thats the 'type' of manager we require ? 

Both McLeish and Lambert got teams promoted as well but I wouldn't want their type here again.

I hear you, but whats your problem with Dyche?

Flip it the other way. Genuine question - aside from a promotion on his CV, what convinces you he is the right man for the job?

Because that should be the question we're asking when appointing.

Firstly just to clarify... My1st choice would be Moyes ... although his one problem may be that he has been away from the championship too long ..   However if Dyche was appointed I honestly think he could get us promoted first time of asking and keep us there with some decent funding, I have watched his Burnley teams on a few occasions whilst up North and his style of play and attitude seem spot on to me  .
He knows what it takes to succeed in the Championship
Under Dyche’s reign, Burnley have lost just 10 of their last 89 games in the second tier.
His troops are well-organised, motivated and incredibly tough to beat.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2016, 01:11:41 PM by conman »

Offline Boz

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1294 on: March 29, 2016, 01:13:09 PM »
Why does being away from the championship too long make him a questionable candidate to manage a football club at that level? Is he a competent manager or isn't he and would his ability to manage differentiate him from anyone else we could possibly hire?

Moyes might rate better than those Villa have appointed in the last few years, but is he the right man for Villa now?

He's not my choice before some who could be in frame, although he'd be before managers such as Coleman

Offline claretandblue barmy

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1295 on: March 29, 2016, 01:19:51 PM »
Why does being away from the championship too long make him a questionable candidate to manage a football club at that level? Is he a competent manager or isn't he and would his ability to manage differentiate him from anyone else we could possibly hire?

Only the fact that is best part of 20 years since he managed a team in that league .... Has he the knowledge of players in that division ?  As ive said i would gladly take the risk and he would still be my first choice .

Offline conman

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1296 on: March 29, 2016, 01:22:21 PM »
Why does being away from the championship too long make him a questionable candidate to manage a football club at that level? Is he a competent manager or isn't he and would his ability to manage differentiate him from anyone else we could possibly hire?

Moyes might rate better than those Villa have appointed in the last few years, but is he the right man for Villa now?

He's not my choice before some who could be in frame, although he'd be before managers such as Coleman

yes boz , i would rather  have mick mcarthy instead of moyes

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1297 on: March 29, 2016, 01:25:38 PM »

Seems Dyche is as popular as Donald Trump .. Why ?   He got Burnley promoted previously & could well do it again this year ...surely thats the 'type' of manager we require ? 

Both McLeish and Lambert got teams promoted as well but I wouldn't want their type here again.

I hear you, but whats your problem with Dyche?

Flip it the other way. Genuine question - aside from a promotion on his CV, what convinces you he is the right man for the job?

Because that should be the question we're asking when appointing.

Firstly just to clarify... My1st choice would be Moyes ... although his one problem may be that he has been away from the championship too long ..   However if Dyche was appointed I honestly think he could get us promoted first time of asking and keep us there with some decent funding, I have watched his Burnley teams on a few occasions whilst up North and his style of play and attitude seem spot on to me  .
He knows what it takes to succeed in the Championship
Under Dyche’s reign, Burnley have lost just 10 of their last 89 games in the second tier.
His troops are well-organised, motivated and incredibly tough to beat.

Nothing like a copy and paste from an evening mail article.

I think Dyche is a younger version of Allardyce personally. In time he will be a lower mid table premier league manager, but always struggle to take sides beyond a certain level. Burnley looked well set up last season but never had enough to win matches due to lacking creativity, something I think will happen again next season. Bournemouth on the other hand still create chances for fun, because of the style they play under Howe. I think Moyes is somewhere a step up from Dyche, and I genuinely have no idea where, with his backroom team, I would sit the crazy bloke from Leicester. Genius, madman, fraud, lucky, awful. God knows, but I don't want him here.

As such if Moyes is "gettable" we should be doing all we can.

Offline Bottom Right 89

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1298 on: March 29, 2016, 01:30:36 PM »
Prior to Paul Lamberts appointment, Moyes was always my preferred choice. Now because of the negativity about his downfall at Man Utd and the Spanish sebatical I've overlooked him. Positives - experience of managing at the top, can organise a defence, disciplinarian, good in the transfer market, available now, sees us as a big club and wants the job. Negatives - can't think of any.

Has to be a safer appointment than Dyche, I respect the fact that he's a decent Championship manager but I want a long term appointment someone who is going to get us up and then get us aiming towards the top 6 in the Prem.

I'm sure he could be our new Graham Taylor - surely its only a debate around financial compensation for Remi and his staff to leave, Moyes could be in the dugout for Saturday if they get a shift on.

Offline conman

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1299 on: March 29, 2016, 01:38:45 PM »
I think Moyes would only take the Villa job on as a last resort , probably in July , if he is unable to get a premier league job or the Celtic job doesnt become vacant

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1300 on: March 30, 2016, 11:37:41 AM »

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1301 on: March 30, 2016, 12:01:49 PM »

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1302 on: March 30, 2016, 01:55:51 PM »
A lot of baggies fans rate Pearson highly for his time there as No2 and caretaker manager when they apparently never lost a game and are apparently hoping we don't get him.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1303 on: March 30, 2016, 02:01:44 PM »
There's a number of things that I have read about Pearson that I like. There's a number of other things that I have read about Pearson that I don't like. What doesn't get discussed enough is the work he did at Leicester outside of the months where they sat at or near the bottom of the PL. That he did actually get them into the PL and he did sign a lot of the players that have taken Leicester to the top of the table. He comes across as a very dislikeable person but then again I'm not looking to take warm showers with him (Heartbreak Ridge reference). I would need him to be a good football manager, and his record isn't terrible. The key thing for me is who else is out there that we can actually attract, and if there are better overall candidates we should be trying to get them.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #1304 on: March 30, 2016, 02:06:06 PM »
Pat Murphy speaks

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03pfsf1

In Brian we trust.

Interesting that it will be Brian making the approach to potential managers. Murphy claimed Moyes "would like talks" but I wonder if he's basing that on how crap he thinks we are and what he's read in the tabloids.

 


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