Manager for next season

[gpbarr]

gpbarr, surely this is what the review and subsequent changes made is doing (cohesive plan bit). We can't wait too long to get the board right and forget about the team on the pitch. Both things need to happen almost at the same time. That's why this next two months is crucial to the short, medium and longer term. I have some faith now that things are being addressed. At long last.

Yes. I'm merely advocating a manager (whoever it is) needs to be given the time to effect the turnaround we all want on the pitch. Whether Garde or Moyes or anyone else, I hope they get it.

[supertom]

If Moyes genuinely wants the job then we'd be crazy not to go for him. He's got a track record of rebuilding a sleeping giant on a decline. He can work on a budget. I don't let his last two gigs sway my thinking on him too much. Utd is a poisoned chalice and he was always on a hiding to nothing going to Spain. He suits the English game. He suits a club like us. If he's willing to take a slog in the Championship for a season or two to start the rebuilding process, then that's great. I think he's a very good manager. We'll be well organised with him. He'll make sensible signings. He's also a manager who would demand, and take a good degree of control, which is what we need. We don't want a manager coming in and butting heads with the chairman and scouting networks on who we're signing and the direction the club is going. In principal the O Neill way works here, but to a point. I'd also have no doubts that Moyes would better use his squad and resources.
Will we play like Barcelona? No, but have we ever been consistently dazzling on the eye? Not particularly (at least not since Football began). We certainly played some nice stuff at our best under BFR and Little, but we were resolute too. To be fair to Moyes as well, his Everton side when they were finishing 5th did play some reasonable stuff. Certainly he's no clogger like Tiny Penis.

We need organisation. We need to be able to defend. We need to be able to win matches. He'll bring in solid players who will do the business for us, like he did at Everton. Players like Neville, Jagielka, Baines etc. You can rely on them. 

If it can happen then Moyes gets my vote. There's no problem for him working on a budget, but what needs to happen is we need stability at board level. We can't have headless chickens running around whilst Randy has fucked off and left a rudderless ship. From what Hollis has started, it seems we're rectifying this. We don't have to spend 80 million a year to be a good side. I'm hoping that this year will offer a shift in the Premier League power shift and we'll see a more competitive league for a few years. Leicester give everyone a bit of hope. I would fancy Moyes to get us up first time, and I'd fancy him to keep us up fairly comfortably the following year. From then on, who knows?

We do need this relegation. It's the kick in the bollocks this club needs in order to hit the reset button and look at things more sensibly. If we learn from the mistakes of the last five years we can rebuild and become stronger in the long term. IF.

[ozzjim]

I agree supertom. Moyes is such a no brainer it's mad and he is only 52. His record shows he can achieve genuine stability with a club or size. 

[Des Little]

Trouble is, I'll be pissed off now if he doesn't end up coming!

[Toronto Villa]

If it happens it would be in the summer. He won't want to manage the club now, but he'll sign a pre contract agreement and adopt a close watching brief over the rest of the season. And he won't want his record attached to being relegated as a manager.

[garyfouroaks]

Pearson is still the man for a Championship season.

Moyes is long out of that league and he demonstrated in Spain how weak he is out of his comfort zone.

[AV89]

Merson still banging the drum for Mick McCarthy I notice.

Moyes to me is no brained.   Ideal candidate for us and arguably we are the sort of club he needs in his career at this stage.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Like finding a squashed egg sandwich in your lunchbox on a school trip, Moyes will probably do the job until you get home, as unappetising as it may be. He'll certainly sort out the defence. We might even look industrious in midfield but I wouldn't expect much more. Most Evertonians were glad to see the back of him. Still, needs must and he sadly is an option.

[Dave]

Like finding a squashed egg sandwich in your lunchbox on a school trip, Moyes will probably do the job until you get home, as unappetising as it may be. He'll certainly sort out the defence. We might even look industrious in midfield but I wouldn't expect much more. Most Evertonians were glad to see the back of him. Still, needs must and he sadly is an option.

At the time they were.

Now they seem to be asking themselves whether finishing six places further down the league but playing more attractive football is actually a good swap after all.

[ChicagoLion]

Never been a Moyes fan, dull predictable defensive football.
Bit of a myth that he spent no money. I think the game has moved on and why he has failed in last 2 jobs.
But we are desperate and I think he would sort the squad and give us a chance to get back up.
Also a name that transfer targets recognise, he must be as desperate for success as we are.

[NeilH]

Never been a Moyes fan, dull predictable defensive football.
Bit of a myth that he spent no money. I think the game has moved on and why he has failed in last 2 jobs.

Has he? He took on an impossible task in following on from Fergie and was crucified by the fans and meeja  for it. Fast forward to Van Gaal who has spent a crap-load of money, came with a worldclass reputation and has done no better. I accept that his tenure in Spain was not good, but he was well liked over there and very few British coaches succeed overseas.
We are ideal for him to rebuild under the media scrutiny. As far as I am concerned, if there is even a whiff of truth to this (and yes its the Mirror, so its the slightest of whiffs) then no-one else should be considered.

[ChicagoLion]

Never been a Moyes fan, dull predictable defensive football.
Bit of a myth that he spent no money. I think the game has moved on and why he has failed in last 2 jobs.

Has he? He took on an impossible task in following on from Fergie and was crucified by the fans and meeja  for it. Fast forward to Van Gaal who has spent a crap-load of money, came with a worldclass reputation and has done no better. I accept that his tenure in Spain was not good, but he was well liked over there and very few British coaches succeed overseas.
We are ideal for him to rebuild under the media scrutiny. As far as I am concerned, if there is even a whiff of truth to this (and yes its the Mirror, so its the slightest of whiffs) then no-one else should be considered.

yes he did fail, no doubt. Maybe extenuating circumstances but trying to turn Utd into Everton did not work. It could be argued this made LVG job even harder. Sorry I am not going with the Moyes love in on here.

[dave.woodhall]

Everything I'm reading on this thread (with the exception of needing to rebuild his reputation) could have been said about Sir Graham.

[Des Little]

Everything I'm reading on this thread (with the exception of needing to rebuild his reputation) could have been said about Sir Graham.

Good point.  If he comes (big if), and achieves anything like SGT, he'll rightly be lauded for years to come.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Everything I'm reading on this thread (with the exception of needing to rebuild his reputation) could have been said about Sir Graham.

Taylor's Watford were an exciting, attacking team with Barnes and Blissett ripping up the league. His record at Watford is one of great achievement. Moyes' Everton on the other hand were always tough to beat.