Manager for next season

[ciggiesnbeer]

Before you all write Garde off (although the 2 chaps arguing either side have had a great debate and both have made good points) I think people should remember one thing - he hasn't been able to sign one single player. Not one. Take that in for a second before comparing him to TS who, as well as being able to bring in some players he wanted also had a whole preseason with this squad.

True but TS did give us a new manager bounce with no new signings last season.

I am not a "Garde out" guy because I like his sanity and feel he has been screwed.  But I cant escape the truth of the matter.

Garde has demonstrably done even worse than Sherwood at this club in terms of results and performances. I mean, its not even close is it?



 

[ROBBO]

Last season TS had Delph, Cleverly and Benteke to work with what has Gard got that is anywhere near that quality?

[mr underhill]

Cleverly was mostly very ordinary

[gpbarr]

There's no indication, It's football not science. There's no such thing as long term planning where managers are concerned. They do a job immediately or they're on their way. That's how it works. Who' would your suggestion be and what indicators do you have that he would be a success?

The perfect argument for why we are so fucked. But lets just keep doing it because "thats how it works". Mental logic if ever I heard it

[ciggiesnbeer]

Last season TS had Delph, Cleverly and Benteke to work with what has Gard got that is anywhere near that quality?

Grealish for one. Another player like Cleverly (and to a lesser extent Delph) who TS got playing at a very high level compared to Lambert.

There was a time a few games after Sherwood joined us when we were all looking at some of these players thinking they were actually pretty damn good.

I just dont beleive all of these players are garbage compared to Delph & Cleverly. I think the manager has a lot to do with performances. TS did that last season and failed utterly this season. Garde hasnt even got a bounce out of any of them as far as I can see. Thats pretty poor.

[Chico Hamilton III]

There's no indication, It's football not science. There's no such thing as long term planning where managers are concerned. They do a job immediately or they're on their way. That's how it works. Who' would your suggestion be and what indicators do you have that he would be a success?

The perfect argument for why we are so fucked. But lets just keep doing it because "thats how it works". Mental logic if ever I heard it

So, applying your logic, and planning long term and not chopping and changing managers, we shouldn't have sacked Sherwood? And you think my logic is Yampy?

[gpbarr]

Grealish - give me a break. Out of his depth without any solidity around him.

[gpbarr]

There's no indication, It's football not science. There's no such thing as long term planning where managers are concerned. They do a job immediately or they're on their way. That's how it works. Who' would your suggestion be and what indicators do you have that he would be a success?

The perfect argument for why we are so fucked. But lets just keep doing it because "thats how it works". Mental logic if ever I heard it

So, applying your logic, and planning long term and not chopping and changing managers, we shouldn't have sacked Sherwood? And you think my logic is Yampy?

Using my logic, Sherwood would never have been appointed. 

I'll watch closely to see how fast you turn on the next saviour

[Stu]

There's no indication, It's football not science. There's no such thing as long term planning where managers are concerned. They do a job immediately or they're on their way. That's how it works. Who' would your suggestion be and what indicators do you have that he would be a success?

The perfect argument for why we are so fucked. But lets just keep doing it because "thats how it works". Mental logic if ever I heard it

So, applying your logic, and planning long term and not chopping and changing managers, we shouldn't have sacked Sherwood? And you think my logic is Yampy?

Using my logic, Sherwood would never have been appointed. 

....and presumably Lambert wouldn't have been fired?

[Chico Hamilton III]

There's no indication, It's football not science. There's no such thing as long term planning where managers are concerned. They do a job immediately or they're on their way. That's how it works. Who' would your suggestion be and what indicators do you have that he would be a success?

The perfect argument for why we are so fucked. But lets just keep doing it because "thats how it works". Mental logic if ever I heard it

So, applying your logic, and planning long term and not chopping and changing managers, we shouldn't have sacked Sherwood? And you think my logic is Yampy?

Using my logic, Sherwood would never have been appointed. 

I'll watch closely to see how fast you turn on the next saviour

Easy, I'd sack any plank who turns around 2 wins in half a season.

[gpbarr]

There's no indication, It's football not science. There's no such thing as long term planning where managers are concerned. They do a job immediately or they're on their way. That's how it works. Who' would your suggestion be and what indicators do you have that he would be a success?

The perfect argument for why we are so fucked. But lets just keep doing it because "thats how it works". Mental logic if ever I heard it

So, applying your logic, and planning long term and not chopping and changing managers, we shouldn't have sacked Sherwood? And you think my logic is Yampy?

Using my logic, Sherwood would never have been appointed. 

I'll watch closely to see how fast you turn on the next saviour

Easy, I'd sack any plank who turns around 2 wins in half a season.

You keep making my argument for me - I do appreciate that

[Rudy Can't Fail]

If Garde does leave I'd rather go with somebody like Gary Neville than go the Pearson, Bruce route. He may be out of his depth in Spain and will likely get sacked by the end of the season but I think he's better than he's shown. The only clause I'd insist on is he doesn't bring his toothy, smirking, twat of a brother with him.

I also think he'd jump at the chance to manage us, even in the Championship.

[Stu]

I reckon there's a few planks in the dressing room that need fucking off before we start looking at different managers.

[Jimbo]

The disease has spread to every corner of the club, and next it will be the fans.

[Bottom Right 89]

It became obvious to me in one of those 4am Villa nightmares that Brian Little has been brought back as insurance to babysit the first team when Remi walks - he just like the rest of us has given up and must be close to saying fuck it im off. Fully expect it to happen this week and gives us a chance to get the right man in before the summer.