Fallen former football giant 0-6 Liverpool Post Match thread.

[mr underhill]

undertaker is probably more accurate

[Ron Manager]

It makes me cringe to read or see anything at all about Aston Villa since that debacle yesterday.We have finally reached rock bottom and there is no way out that I can see.If I was Remi Garde I would resign this morning .I am afraid this job is too much for him and probably too much for anybody.

[Goldie.7]

*Can't be arsed to read back if already posted.

[VicMackey]

If I was Remi Garde I would pick the kids next game and send a message to the main core of 16 crap players. Let them get experience for next season, so we know which kids is worth using for complete rebuild of team.

I'm sure they can't do any worse.  The relationship between the current sack of shit players and the support has completely broken down.  Perhaps explains why most of them can't be bothered.  I'd rather we put out 11 players who give their all and get thumped than 11 half-arsed over-paid twats.

[Damo70]

Wow. It looked even worse on telly than when I was at the game. It reminded me  of coming back from an away game in the nineties on a day when Blackburn had stuck seven past Norwich and Danny Baker on 606 reckoned MOTD should show all the goals three times. At normal speed, in slow motion and then at double speed accompanied by the Benny Hill theme tune. Watching MOTD last night it felt like they had done that. There was some trouble in front of me in the lower North. I think half a dozen female half and half scarf day trippers may have celebrated a Liverpool goal and wound some people up but I was a bit too dazed to really know or even care what was going on by then. I picked a hell of a year to stop drinking.

[MattW]

Where did this performance come from? We were in the top quarter of the form ladder and had been battling well.

I wonder about Okore's comments. Did they come after something happened behind the scenes? Or were the Okore comments disheartening or dispiriting, echoing the concerns a number of players have about not being offered contracts and their futures in general?

Or is confidence so low, that a single set-back early in a game is enough to trigger a collapse - the players not having confidence in each other. I noted, with surprise and concern, Garde's comments about the strength of the Liverpool team on paper. Perhaps they all thought before the game, including Garde, that they had no chance of winning.

Whatever the reason, a key issue is on-field leadership. Evidently, there is none.

[Damo70]

Where did this performance come from? We were in the top quarter of the form ladder and had been battling well.

I wonder about Okore's comments. Did they come after something happened behind the scenes? Or were the Okore comments disheartening or dispiriting, echoing the concerns a number of players have about not being offered contracts and their futures in general?

Or is confidence so low, that a single set-back early in a game is enough to trigger a collapse - the players not having confidence in each other. I noted, with surprise and concern, Garde's comments about the strength of the Liverpool team on paper. Perhaps they all thought before the game, including Garde, that they had no chance of winning.

Whatever the reason, a key issue is on-field leadership. Evidently, there is none.

On field or off field, I think the word leadership was deleted from the Villa dictionary quite a while back.

[Steve kirk]

This is one of many times I've posted early Monday following a Villa embarrassment about the thought of facing some of the most one eyed Villa hating twats you could wish to meet at where I work, right here we go Once more unto the breach dear friends

[JD]

Pitiful, embarrassing, spineless. Nothing else to say.

[Olof's Beard]

I am just about calming down. I still have no idea how that performance came about. We have all seen the defensive improvement and it has last a couple of months and around ten games - it was no flash in the pan. But yesterday, the back four was absolutely atrocious and we were as predictably toothless coming forward as we always are. Nobody played even slightly well - Gana won the ball a fair bit but always gave it back. Bacuna was appalling, Westwood pointless until he started kicking people up in the air when he realised he wasn't good enough. Gil slow and one dimensional, Gabby quickly realising he can't cut it anymore so did a runner, Richards strolling about, Veretout not anywhere near as good as we hoped he was becoming. Just awful, topped off by our goalkeeper who has been an accident waiting to happen and two centre halves who catastrophically lost the plot.

Can we run a poll for which was the worst goal to concede? The City collection was bad but this just beggared belief:

Goal 1 - two players advance unchallenged down our right. Have 10 yards and 10 seconds to pick out a cross. The only player they have in the box finds five yards of space six yards out. Woeful.

Goal 2 - Innocuous ball in from a free kick, Okore ducks because he clearly had a call from Bunn who then fails to land a finger on it. Ball nestles in the corner. Ridiculous.

Goal 3 - The only decent finish of the day but all came from Bacuna lazily giving the ball away and our defence then panicking and getting themselves in a right pickle. Pathetic.

Goal 4 - Their full back ghosts into our box completely unchallenged after Veretout let him go. Fuck knows where Cissokho and Lescott are too, Bunn saves one but we contrive to trickle it back into the path of the full back so he can poke it in. Embarrassing.

Goal 5 - The simplest through ball gives a player who has been on the pitch for ten seconds a clear run on goal, unopposed from 40 yards out. He scuffs the shot, it doesn't matter. Shitcake.

Goal 6 - Corner, taken Westwood style. After watching corners like that for four years without ever looking like scoring from them, we concede to one in the most laughable circumstances. Donkey centre half, stood rooted to the spot. No pressure in front, behind or to the side of him. Shitcake.

It's a close one, but I would probably go for goal 6. Never known defending like it in all my time, biggest home defeat for 81 years. Happy fricking Valentine's. Now if Cupid could turn his arrow on a few foreheads around the boardroom and playing staff, that would be great.

[aj2k77]

This is one of many times I've posted early Monday following a Villa embarrassment about the thought of facing some of the most one eyed Villa hating twats you could wish to meet at where I work, right here we go Once more unto the breach dear friends

Feel for ya mate. I'm on site with the biggest wanker I know tomorrow, he tlks about the Villa more than I do. He might be getting a hammer over the head.

[Chris Smith]

I was out of the door after the third goal, I just didn't see the point of wasting any more time on that pathetic rabble. After years of sticking it out to the bitter end that is twice in recent weeks I have bailed early. I was back in the house before four. Roll on the Summer so I can stop wasting my time on this shit for a couple of months.

[Damo70]

I was out of the door after the third goal, I just didn't see the point of wasting any more time on that pathetic rabble. After years of sticking it out to the bitter end that is twice in recent weeks I have bailed early. I was back in the house before four. Roll on the Summer so I can stop wasting my time on this shit for a couple of months.

I left when the fifth went in. Beat the queue at Ali Baba's kebab shop and drove home in record time. Every cloud and all that.

[Mister E]

After holding fire yesteday, here goes.
 I’m still shell-shocked having watched a mediocre Liverpool side enjoy their training game against the once-mighty Villa.
After 5 minutes, I said to my mate that I thought our team looked lethargic and disinterested. Which begs the question: what the hell is going on behind the scenes, to create such a negative mindset for the players?
Shit, we should have been raring to go, after last week! We might not have a particularly strong team but Garde seemed to instilled some discipline and focus on it. The defensive lapses were horrible; and we have been writing that for the last 5-6 seasons. How is it possible that players cannot be drilled to defend set pieces effectively?!
We’re down and out; that’s for sure. The problem now is that – with an accountant as Chairman – this regime will probably hunker down and continue the cost-cutting; much like the January transfer window (yes, the one in which Big Sam invested in 4 new players, all of whom played so well in beating ManUre on Saturday). So, the short-term and medium-term outlook seem pretty bleak.

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

I was out of the door after the third goal, I just didn't see the point of wasting any more time on that pathetic rabble. After years of sticking it out to the bitter end that is twice in recent weeks I have bailed early. I was back in the house before four. Roll on the Summer so I can stop wasting my time on this shit for a couple of months.

I left when the fifth went in. Beat the queue at Ali Baba's kebab shop and drove home in record time. Every cloud and all that.

These days its best to stay for the full 90 minutes to miss the queues going home.