Quote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 06:01:43 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 19, 2016, 06:00:01 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:58:11 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 19, 2016, 05:57:04 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:54:09 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 19, 2016, 05:52:46 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:51:28 PMWell take an informed guess then...You follow him?I have done. I also follow Donald Trump, who I loathe. Ah, just as I thought.Well go on then Sygmund...No, I think that's a good enough to place to leave the debate. Thanks.Strange, but whatever...Well, not it's not. You answered my question and for the risk of boring everyone else, it's best to leave it there I think.
Quote from: Clampy on July 19, 2016, 06:00:01 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:58:11 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 19, 2016, 05:57:04 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:54:09 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 19, 2016, 05:52:46 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:51:28 PMWell take an informed guess then...You follow him?I have done. I also follow Donald Trump, who I loathe. Ah, just as I thought.Well go on then Sygmund...No, I think that's a good enough to place to leave the debate. Thanks.Strange, but whatever...
Quote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:58:11 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 19, 2016, 05:57:04 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:54:09 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 19, 2016, 05:52:46 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:51:28 PMWell take an informed guess then...You follow him?I have done. I also follow Donald Trump, who I loathe. Ah, just as I thought.Well go on then Sygmund...No, I think that's a good enough to place to leave the debate. Thanks.
Quote from: Clampy on July 19, 2016, 05:57:04 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:54:09 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 19, 2016, 05:52:46 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:51:28 PMWell take an informed guess then...You follow him?I have done. I also follow Donald Trump, who I loathe. Ah, just as I thought.Well go on then Sygmund...
Quote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:54:09 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 19, 2016, 05:52:46 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:51:28 PMWell take an informed guess then...You follow him?I have done. I also follow Donald Trump, who I loathe. Ah, just as I thought.
Quote from: Clampy on July 19, 2016, 05:52:46 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:51:28 PMWell take an informed guess then...You follow him?I have done. I also follow Donald Trump, who I loathe.
Quote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:51:28 PMWell take an informed guess then...You follow him?
Well take an informed guess then...
Quote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:18:13 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 19, 2016, 05:14:01 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:11:38 PMWhy? I think it sums up what Stan does perfectly. I follow him on twitter and he doesn't bring it up that much, and if he did, what's the problem?No he doesn't bring it up that often, only when things are going badly for Stan.What you mean a guy who is prone to depression brings it up when things are going badly for him and maybe he's feeling a bit down? Who would have thunk?
Quote from: Clampy on July 19, 2016, 05:14:01 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:11:38 PMWhy? I think it sums up what Stan does perfectly. I follow him on twitter and he doesn't bring it up that much, and if he did, what's the problem?No he doesn't bring it up that often, only when things are going badly for Stan.
Quote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:11:38 PMWhy? I think it sums up what Stan does perfectly. I follow him on twitter and he doesn't bring it up that much, and if he did, what's the problem?
Why? I think it sums up what Stan does perfectly.
Quote from: chrisw1 on July 19, 2016, 05:27:40 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:18:13 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 19, 2016, 05:14:01 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:11:38 PMWhy? I think it sums up what Stan does perfectly. I follow him on twitter and he doesn't bring it up that much, and if he did, what's the problem?No he doesn't bring it up that often, only when things are going badly for Stan.What you mean a guy who is prone to depression brings it up when things are going badly for him and maybe he's feeling a bit down? Who would have thunk?Thing is SV, as we don't know illness affects him, you could be right you could be wrong, it's probably just best not to comment rather than potentially looking ignorant.
Quote from: peter w on July 19, 2016, 06:24:34 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on July 19, 2016, 05:27:40 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:18:13 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 19, 2016, 05:14:01 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:11:38 PMWhy? I think it sums up what Stan does perfectly. I follow him on twitter and he doesn't bring it up that much, and if he did, what's the problem?No he doesn't bring it up that often, only when things are going badly for Stan.What you mean a guy who is prone to depression brings it up when things are going badly for him and maybe he's feeling a bit down? Who would have thunk?Thing is SV, as we don't know illness affects him, you could be right you could be wrong, it's probably just best not to comment rather than potentially looking ignorant.If he wasn't such a deliberately controversial character I'd agree with you. But as we all know, Stan loves nothing more than media exposure. I haven't said he's not mentally ill, I haven't said mental illness doesn't exist. All I've said is that Stan sometimes uses his illness to increase his media exposure when it suits.
Quote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 06:31:30 PMQuote from: peter w on July 19, 2016, 06:24:34 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on July 19, 2016, 05:27:40 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:18:13 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 19, 2016, 05:14:01 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:11:38 PMWhy? I think it sums up what Stan does perfectly. I follow him on twitter and he doesn't bring it up that much, and if he did, what's the problem?No he doesn't bring it up that often, only when things are going badly for Stan.What you mean a guy who is prone to depression brings it up when things are going badly for him and maybe he's feeling a bit down? Who would have thunk?Thing is SV, as we don't know illness affects him, you could be right you could be wrong, it's probably just best not to comment rather than potentially looking ignorant.If he wasn't such a deliberately controversial character I'd agree with you. But as we all know, Stan loves nothing more than media exposure. I haven't said he's not mentally ill, I haven't said mental illness doesn't exist. All I've said is that Stan sometimes uses his illness to increase his media exposure when it suits. And you definitely know this or have proof other than anecdotal evidence?
Quote from: peter w on July 19, 2016, 06:35:57 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 06:31:30 PMQuote from: peter w on July 19, 2016, 06:24:34 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on July 19, 2016, 05:27:40 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:18:13 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 19, 2016, 05:14:01 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:11:38 PMWhy? I think it sums up what Stan does perfectly. I follow him on twitter and he doesn't bring it up that much, and if he did, what's the problem?No he doesn't bring it up that often, only when things are going badly for Stan.What you mean a guy who is prone to depression brings it up when things are going badly for him and maybe he's feeling a bit down? Who would have thunk?Thing is SV, as we don't know illness affects him, you could be right you could be wrong, it's probably just best not to comment rather than potentially looking ignorant.If he wasn't such a deliberately controversial character I'd agree with you. But as we all know, Stan loves nothing more than media exposure. I haven't said he's not mentally ill, I haven't said mental illness doesn't exist. All I've said is that Stan sometimes uses his illness to increase his media exposure when it suits. And you definitely know this or have proof other than anecdotal evidence?Do I need it? It's a discussion forum not a court of law.
Quote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 06:39:14 PMQuote from: peter w on July 19, 2016, 06:35:57 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 06:31:30 PMQuote from: peter w on July 19, 2016, 06:24:34 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on July 19, 2016, 05:27:40 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:18:13 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 19, 2016, 05:14:01 PMQuote from: Stirchley Villain on July 19, 2016, 05:11:38 PMWhy? I think it sums up what Stan does perfectly. I follow him on twitter and he doesn't bring it up that much, and if he did, what's the problem?No he doesn't bring it up that often, only when things are going badly for Stan.What you mean a guy who is prone to depression brings it up when things are going badly for him and maybe he's feeling a bit down? Who would have thunk?Thing is SV, as we don't know illness affects him, you could be right you could be wrong, it's probably just best not to comment rather than potentially looking ignorant.If he wasn't such a deliberately controversial character I'd agree with you. But as we all know, Stan loves nothing more than media exposure. I haven't said he's not mentally ill, I haven't said mental illness doesn't exist. All I've said is that Stan sometimes uses his illness to increase his media exposure when it suits. And you definitely know this or have proof other than anecdotal evidence?Do I need it? It's a discussion forum not a court of law.No but your implication is he does based on nothing more than anecdotal evidence which incidentally you still haven't produced. I'm no lover of SVC but before you kick the man when he's down how about justifying your comments. I follow SVC on Twitter and haven't once seen him play the mental illness card in his "sacking" from Talksport.
"Putting my mental health on the line because of the sheer volume of games I covered, travelling all over the country and getting involved in arguments and debates as you do as a passionate football broadcaster."
Quote from: Chinchilla Bathhouse on July 19, 2016, 05:56:45 PMAs I said...You appear to be stating that I need to be better informed on the topic .....Would you like to explain your reasons for that statement and where I am wrong in what I say
As I said...
SV have ever considered the immense good Stan has done by shedding light on subject that many people don't understand but is very real in the lives of thousands across the world? It's incredibly insensitive and ignorant on your part to make sweeping statements on a topic you clearly know very little about.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on July 19, 2016, 11:16:44 PMSV have ever considered the immense good Stan has done by shedding light on subject that many people don't understand but is very real in the lives of thousands across the world? It's incredibly insensitive and ignorant on your part to make sweeping statements on a topic you clearly know very little about.I haven't made sweeping statements. I've made one specific point that I think sometimes SVC used his ill health to raise his media profile. I've not made any other statements regarding mental health in general. I am also a healthcare professional and people manager who has on occasion to manage both staff and patients with mental illness, so I do consider myself to be fairly well informed. And before you pick up on this as a stick to beat me with, I have never had complaints from either my organisation, or individual staff or patients regarding my dealings with them with regards to mental health issues. Quite the opposite in fact.
Quote from: Stirchley Villain on July 20, 2016, 12:30:46 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on July 19, 2016, 11:16:44 PMSV have ever considered the immense good Stan has done by shedding light on subject that many people don't understand but is very real in the lives of thousands across the world? It's incredibly insensitive and ignorant on your part to make sweeping statements on a topic you clearly know very little about.I haven't made sweeping statements. I've made one specific point that I think sometimes SVC used his ill health to raise his media profile. I've not made any other statements regarding mental health in general. I am also a healthcare professional and people manager who has on occasion to manage both staff and patients with mental illness, so I do consider myself to be fairly well informed. And before you pick up on this as a stick to beat me with, I have never had complaints from either my organisation, or individual staff or patients regarding my dealings with them with regards to mental health issues. Quite the opposite in fact. The already depressed patients must just love it when as you walk by you throw this line at them "Playing the mental illness card again..."