New chairman and Lerner ramblings

[ChicagoLion]

Pretty uninspiring appointment, another accountant.
Described as Dull.

Who gets a hard on over corporate restructuring?

I do, it can be pretty exciting.
If you want to change the culture of an organisation you do not send for an accountant.
Its a bit like calling a plumber when your house is on fire.

You don't get excited when the Villa win, but corporate governance does it for you?

Jesus wouldn't have wept, he'd have just shook his head in quiet disbelief.

If you want to pin your hopes on a Lerner appointed bean counter to give this club salvation, that is up to you.
I guess you will be calling me a Bluenose next.

[Villafirst]

Once again our blinkered board ignore appointing someone with football knowledge to the board. Still they know best. Why do they continue to ignore advice and carry on in their own pig-headed way?

Is it necessary to have a football man on the board? Spurs' board is full of bankers and accountants (sorry Chicago Lion).

Their executive with responsibility for football operations has a degree in PE and became an accountant with the NHS. They don't seem to be missing out on not having Hodole or Villa on the board. They also have a detached owner too and a CEO with two jobs.

Spurs seem well run and do ok outside of the monied elite. They don't spend a great deal net in transfers either.

I like the idea of Sir Brian joining, just because he's ace. But does he have anything useful to add? I'd hope so, but I am not sure this clamour for a "football or Villa man" really means anything, as I am not too sure those shouting for it have a unified definition of what their role or contribution would be.

Erm....not really sure that these businessmen decision makers at Villa have done very well for the last 5 years - don't you think?

[Ads]

No, they've been poor. Lerner has had a big impact on that with the way he changes mood so randomly; see Houllier to McLiesh for that.

The point is that you don't need to be steeped in football to run a club. The board at Spurs is full of "bean counters" and bankers, yet they've turned a bang average club into a top six one of late. Their lack of football expertise, or at least the perception of it within football administration,  hasn't hampered them.

[Pat McMahon]

I remember Eric Woodward. A devout Christian. Went on holiday to a remote Scottish island and was never heard of again.

If I were on a remote Scottish Island where the young Britt Ekland lived you probably wouldn't hear of me again either.

Eric Woodward was a top class commercial director and played a great role in our rise from the 3rd division.

[PaulWinch again]

Pretty uninspiring appointment, another accountant.
Described as Dull.

Who gets a hard on over corporate restructuring?

I do, it can be pretty exciting.
If you want to change the culture of an organisation you do not send for an accountant.
Its a bit like calling a plumber when your house is on fire.

You don't get excited when the Villa win, but corporate governance does it for you?

Jesus wouldn't have wept, he'd have just shook his head in quiet disbelief.

If you want to pin your hopes on a Lerner appointed bean counter to give this club salvation, that is up to you.
I guess you will be calling me a Bluenose next.

No but you do seem to be able to find the negative in absolutely anything. You even seemed annoyed that people were happy to finally win a game the other night.

[ciggiesnbeer]

I remember Eric Woodward. A devout Christian. Went on holiday to a remote Scottish island and was never heard of again.

If I were on a remote Scottish Island where the young Britt Ekland lived you probably wouldn't hear of me again either.

Eric Woodward was a top class commercial director and played a great role in our rise from the 3rd division.

I smiled

[pbavfckuwait]

Sat back and tryed to review my thoughts on this, believe time will tell and something had to be done, wish him all the best because it is not an easy task to take on.
The statement that really pissed me off was the fact the the club has not been run properly for the last 5 years, well Randy why have you not done something about it before we face the abyss, it really is appalling what this guy has managed to do to AVFC over a sustained period.
The other point of people wanting a Football Man on the board and craving for Brian Little, if Brian has any sense he will stay well away from this position, because I honestly believe that anything he said, suggested would not be implemented and he would just get his reputation tarnished, whether this guy who has the honour of being Aston Villas chairman is just another "Yes" man for Lerner time will tell.

[eamonn]

Pretty uninspiring appointment, another accountant.
Described as Dull.

Who gets a hard on over corporate restructuring?

I do, it can be pretty exciting.
If you want to change the culture of an organisation you do not send for an accountant.
Its a bit like calling a plumber when your house is on fire.

You don't get excited when the Villa win, but corporate governance does it for you?

Jesus wouldn't have wept, he'd have just shook his head in quiet disbelief.

If you want to pin your hopes on a Lerner appointed bean counter to give this club salvation, that is up to you.
I guess you will be calling me a Bluenose next.

Accountancy is about more than counting beans, many CEO's/Chairmen are qualified accountants who move into management roles that are non-finance related. He's a lot more qualified for this role than Fox is for his.

[Villafirst]

Lerner has never appointed anyone with a football background at board level. Just businessmen who've presided over this mess. Even an advisory role should have happened.
Also, has Lerner apologised to the fans for the last 5 years under his control?

[ChicagoLion]

Pretty uninspiring appointment, another accountant.
Described as Dull.

Who gets a hard on over corporate restructuring?

I do, it can be pretty exciting.
If you want to change the culture of an organisation you do not send for an accountant.
Its a bit like calling a plumber when your house is on fire.

You don't get excited when the Villa win, but corporate governance does it for you?

Jesus wouldn't have wept, he'd have just shook his head in quiet disbelief.

If you want to pin your hopes on a Lerner appointed bean counter to give this club salvation, that is up to you.
I guess you will be calling me a Bluenose next.

No but you do seem to be able to find the negative in absolutely anything. You even seemed annoyed that people were happy to finally win a game the other night.

not true

[tomd2103]

No, they've been poor. Lerner has had a big impact on that with the way he changes mood so randomly; see Houllier to McLiesh for that.

The point is that you don't need to be steeped in football to run a club. The board at Spurs is full of "bean counters" and bankers, yet they've turned a bang average club into a top six one of late. Their lack of football expertise, or at least the perception of it within football administration,  hasn't hampered them.

I just wonder if he will have the power to get rid of Lerner appointed personnel if he sees fit.

[Villa in Denmark]

His management experience is at a UNI. Does he know much about football?  Well he's a Man City fan so I guess the answer is?....

I can't get overally excited about this.  Will need new investment really, but since I don't know much about him will reserve comment.

No it isn't. He's been at KMPG for ever and a day.

Birmingham Post link from top of thread.

He sounds almost disappointingly reasonable with his head nowhere near being shoved up his own arse.

We'll see over the next few months with what changes he does or doesn't make.

Nothing he can do right now will affect how this season ends.

[Steve67]

I hope I am wrong but Lerner has made one crap decision after another with his running of our football club, what evidence is there to believe that this one is a good one (other than time, I suppose).  The talk of battling from within and we don't fear relegation makes me feel he's a man to make further cuts rather than try to get the most important thing about the football club in the right shape, that being the actual football team on the pitch. The fans deserve some respect, so buy us some players and try to make us proud again.

[old man villa fan]

Pretty uninspiring appointment, another accountant.
Described as Dull.

Who gets a hard on over corporate restructuring?

I do, it can be pretty exciting.
If you want to change the culture of an organisation you do not send for an accountant.
Its a bit like calling a plumber when your house is on fire.

You don't get excited when the Villa win, but corporate governance does it for you?

Jesus wouldn't have wept, he'd have just shook his head in quiet disbelief.

If you want to pin your hopes on a Lerner appointed bean counter to give this club salvation, that is up to you.
I guess you will be calling me a Bluenose next.

No but you do seem to be able to find the negative in absolutely anything. You even seemed annoyed that people were happy to finally win a game the other night.

not true

See, you're at it again 

[ez]

I do think that since Lerner took us over we've bought a lot more players than we should have. You could make quite a list of players that may as well not have been signed. O'Neil bought many players in that were hardly used. Then we had Lambert's young and hungry lot. There's a lot of players that we didn't make much money on when they departed. I know all managers make bad signings but but the percentage seems to have been a higher under Lerner.