Sunderland v Rock Bottom Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[rob_bridge]

Should of gone with Roberto Martinez like I said four years ago.

even Mark Hughes

we would still be in Prem at least
I remember him leaving Fulham and thought hes nailed on for Villa now . I wasnt sure about it but Mcgrath Id love him now.

Wasn't it the way he behaved that put Randy off apparently?

Whereas McLeish acted with integrity.

[Tony Erdington]

Well I've had a fkin wolves fan text me to say they have a guaranteed  6 points next season..a fkin wolves fan.!!!

hard to argue at the mo

[Lizz]

I suppose our inevitable relegation is so spectacularly crap it's going to set a new record for awfulness.

[rob_bridge]

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/villa-players-at-ft.1181232/

Mackems not impressed with our pathetic losers at all. Players are a disgrace to the name of our club.

Don't like us much either.

I thought that too, quite sad reading that, over the years most people I have encountered always seemed to have a good word about the Villa, I think the last five years has changed that, people must be sick to death of us and just want us gone I know I'd feel the same if I wasn't a Villa fan.

You're joking aren't you?  The likes of Arsenal and Manchester United will be gutted as it will be a guaranteed six points a season gone.

They'll miss us when we're gone, not before.

[PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt]

Feel for those fans who traveled up there today, sang their hearts out and not even been acknowledged by the players, that said, they're probably incapable of clapping their hands together. Never mind though, they've probably been at home a couple of hours already after FLYING home from Sunderland. If it had been my way I would have made them make their own way home. (They'd probably end up lost though)

[brian green]

On top of all the other ways this squad fail, I don't think I have ever seen such a stupid Villa squad. All the lot of them are thick.  They are totally incapable of the power of thought.  They play like zombies. It is as though they have had their brains sucked out.  Hutton, Guzan, Grealish, Richardson, Agbonlahor, Richards, Bacuna, Westwood, Gestede, Sanchez, Gana, Lescott, Clark each and every one unable to engage what few brain cells they have.  I have never seen games tossed away with such stupid disregard. It is just like the Spurs game writ large. A giant f*ck you to the supporters and the public in general.

[VillaAlways]

On top of all the other ways this squad fail, I don't think I have ever seen such a stupid Villa squad. All the lot of them are thick.  They are totally incapable of the power of thought.  They play like zombies. It is as though they have had their brains sucked out.  Hutton, Guzan, Grealish, Richardson, Agbonlahor, Richards, Bacuna, Westwood, Gestede, Sanchez, Gana, Lescott, Clark each and every one unable to engage what few brain cells they have.  I have never seen games tossed away with such stupid disregard. It is just like the Spurs game writ large. A giant f*ck you to the supporters and the public in general.

It really does feel like they are doing it on purpose they are so utterly pathetic

[clash city rocker]

I should imagine all the players want the season to be over as soon as possible and then get sold to other clubs..the thought of being here next season probably terrifies them..it does me  !

[aj2k77]

I'm guessing there will be no end of season party this year either?

[pooligan]

Sadly not at all surprised at the result ,have come to expect it.

[Richard E]

I'm guessing there will be no end of season party this year either?

It's next week*



*(c) Stan Boardman 1836

[PeterWithesShin]

I'm guessing there will be no end of season party this year either?

That's after the Wycombe game.

/baddumtish

[russon]

After lurking threads here for years I think I need to write something about how fed up I am just as closure so I can hopefully forget the lot of them and move on.

I'm 31, have been following Villa since I was in my early teens, even enduring season tickets under Lambert, and in all those years - when there have been plenty of bad Villa teams, and bad Villa players - I can't remember anything even approaching the level of awful that this current crop have become.  I cling to Veretout as a good player, desperate to still have a 'favourite', but if I'm honest he's our best player and he's still terrible. Front to back the squad is awful and their league place is well deserved- in previous seasons I've been able to trick myself into thinking we were unlucky, or things just weren't quite clicking, this year I just watch with amazement at how utterly dire we are.  Today Sunderland were so so so bad, and seemed to be actively trying to sabotage themselves (I thought the same v West Ham), giving the ball away time after time and inviting Villa on, perhaps comfortable in the fact they could give Villa 1,000 chances before they actually put together a coherent move.  Yes, the Gil goal was nice, but how many times did Traore try that same run and fuck it up? At least I understand why he doesn't start now, 99% of the time he looked a liability.

I was cautiously optimistic about Houilier, tolerated Mcleish, was hopeful and then gradually worn down by Lambert, disgusted with Sherwood and now just feel sorry for Garde. 

I remember the last time I felt this fed up was DOL's last season, when the state we were in felt so completely un-Villa. We were a top 8 club at worst, still really top 6 in my mind, and the shaky last years of Ellis were just a blip, something that the MON years confirmed by restoring us to some sort of status.  Over the last five years I haven't really noticed as my expectations were lowered again and again to the point that it feels only right that now we're going down. How can it have come to this? How has no one within the club managed to halt this decline? How have we fucked up both a policy of spending big on proven players and then also a policy of buying youth?  And how has it got to the point that I am actually nostalgic about having Luke Young at left back? Luke Young?

And why when the hierarchy changes their mind about the buying/playing philosophies do we just disappear well paid players?  Can you think of any other club that does that? What can Kozak be doing that is so atrocious that only now, past the point of no return, does he even get on the bench? What was the Ilori signing about? Or Crespo? Zogs has never exactly impressed me, but when the alternative is playing Bacuna in midfield (or like last week bloody Richardson) surely he's worth a look, regardless of how much he's earning?

This is a rambling, incoherent collection of thoughts, because its five years of growing frustration that not only is the club I love slowly dying, but that so many of the problems seem so obvious to those outside the club that they don't make any sense. And I need to write it down, as I said, so I can draw a line under it, and get on with not caring about the rest of the season. 

I'm done, I'm not attending or otherwise following another game. Luckily as of the end of February I am out of the country travelling until christmas, so even if I'm tempted they'll be playing in the middle of the night. Maybe when I get back we will have actually rebuilt sensibly in the championship and I can enjoy a half season ticket of us handing out thrashings to Blues and friends.

A man can dream.

Great post, don't wait so many years next time. Hope your travels go well, try and fit Bacuna in your suitcase please.

[VillaAlways]

Watching Match of the Day it's utterly embarrassing

They should be ashamed

[tomd2103]

On top of all the other ways this squad fail, I don't think I have ever seen such a stupid Villa squad. All the lot of them are thick.  They are totally incapable of the power of thought.  They play like zombies. It is as though they have had their brains sucked out.  Hutton, Guzan, Grealish, Richardson, Agbonlahor, Richards, Bacuna, Westwood, Gestede, Sanchez, Gana, Lescott, Clark each and every one unable to engage what few brain cells they have.  I have never seen games tossed away with such stupid disregard. It is just like the Spurs game writ large. A giant f*ck you to the supporters and the public in general.

It really does feel like they are doing it on purpose they are so utterly pathetic

I would think some of them aren't bothered about the prospect of relegation.  They'll be on the same money and playing at a level they are more suited to.  In fact I'm sure some of them will be welcoming it as it might mean them having more of a chance of playing,