January 2016 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions

[Toronto Villa]

isn't Naismith exactly the type of mad, overpriced signing MON would have made and what put us in this mess in the first place?

O'Neill is responsible for us being bottom of the league? Ha!

honestly, WTF are you on about? How have even suggested that? Is Hannibal Lector cutting pieces of your brain and feeding it to you right now or something?

I suggested older players at exorbitant prices with little or no resale value was exactly the kind of thing MON did that ultimately created the situation we found ourselves in. Precisely the kind of thing you bash Lerner for every minute of every day is I am now assuming something you are advocating we do again?

Can we cut back a bit on this sort of thing please.

yep sorry, I shouldn't have said that.

[saunders_heroes]

isn't Naismith exactly the type of mad, overpriced signing MON would have made and what put us in this mess in the first place?

O'Neill is responsible for us being bottom of the league? Ha!

honestly, WTF are you on about? How have even suggested that? Is Hannibal Lector cutting pieces of your brain and feeding it to you right now or something?

I suggested older players at exorbitant prices with little or no resale value was exactly the kind of thing MON did that ultimately created the situation we found ourselves in. Precisely the kind of thing you bash Lerner for every minute of every day is I am now assuming something you are advocating we do again?

Can we cut back a bit on this sort of thing please.

yep sorry, I shouldn't have said that.

I forgive you.

[Toronto Villa]

isn't Naismith exactly the type of mad, overpriced signing MON would have made and what put us in this mess in the first place?

O'Neill is responsible for us being bottom of the league? Ha!

honestly, WTF are you on about? How have even suggested that? Is Hannibal Lector cutting pieces of your brain and feeding it to you right now or something?

I suggested older players at exorbitant prices with little or no resale value was exactly the kind of thing MON did that ultimately created the situation we found ourselves in. Precisely the kind of thing you bash Lerner for every minute of every day is I am now assuming something you are advocating we do again?

Oh give over, you're always trying to pin blame on O'Neill for our woes so stop trying to pretend otherwise. He left five and a half years ago after his third top 6 finish in the trot. He is not to blame for our decline, that blame lies directly at the door of our glorious owner.

I'm not saying that at all. You blame Lerner when the sun doesn't shine or tea isn't hot or you run out of toothpaste. I get it, everything is his fault. But why should he sanction the spending on the type of player MON used to sign that contributed to the financial problems we subsequently encountered? How does signing who is 29 for close to 10m with fees/wages and no sell on value make any sense at all? Steven Naismith in player terms is akin to saddling up Tony Pulis as manager. He might help us stay up but then you have deal with the fact that you still have him the morning after as he declines quickly in value and worth.

[saunders_heroes]

Why shouldn't he sanction the spending on players when we're facing relegation? I don't remember us fans being so shy under previous owners so why should Lerner be such a special case? If I remember rightly no one held a gun to his head and forced him to buy the club, and I'd at least expect him to do enough to keep a club the size of Villa in the Premier League where it belongs. How about Lerner having a bit of pride in the club for a change?

[four fornicholl]

isn't Naismith exactly the type of mad, overpriced signing MON would have made and what put us in this mess in the first place?

O'Neill is responsible for us being bottom of the league? Ha!

honestly, WTF are you on about? How have even suggested that? Is Hannibal Lector cutting pieces of your brain and feeding it to you right now or something?

I suggested older players at exorbitant prices with little or no resale value was exactly the kind of thing MON did that ultimately created the situation we found ourselves in. Precisely the kind of thing you bash Lerner for every minute of every day is I am now assuming something you are advocating we do again?

Oh give over, you're always trying to pin blame on O'Neill for our woes so stop trying to pretend otherwise. He left five and a half years ago after his third top 6 finish in the trot. He is not to blame for our decline, that blame lies directly at the door of our glorious owner.

I'm not saying that at all. You blame Lerner when the sun doesn't shine or tea isn't hot or you run out of toothpaste. I get it, everything is his fault. But why should he sanction the spending on the type of player MON used to sign that contributed to the financial problems we subsequently encountered? How does signing who is 29 for close to 10m with fees/wages and no sell on value make any sense at all? Steven Naismith in player terms is akin to saddling up Tony Pulis as manager. He might help us stay up but then you have deal with the fact that you still have him the morning after as he declines quickly in value and worth.

if we bought a five legged donkey for 50m quid and it kept us up I wouldn't give a fuck

[Clampy]

The Naismith argument is nonsense really. For all we know Garde might not have wanted him anyway. I think it's a bit desperate to use Steven Naismith signing for someone else as a stick to beat Lerner with.

[glasses]

The Naismith argument is nonsense really. For all we know Garde might not have wanted him anyway. I think it's a bit desperate to use Steven Naismith signing for someone else as a stick to beat Lerner with.

Is that what we were arguing about? He's shit anyway

[saunders_heroes]

The Naismith argument is nonsense really. For all we know Garde might not have wanted him anyway. I think it's a bit desperate to use Steven Naismith signing for someone else as a stick to beat Lerner with.

Naismith ain't a bad player, but it's the total lack of any player incoming that's the problem.

[Clampy]

The Naismith argument is nonsense really. For all we know Garde might not have wanted him anyway. I think it's a bit desperate to use Steven Naismith signing for someone else as a stick to beat Lerner with.

Naismith ain't a bad player, but it's the total lack of any player incoming that's the problem.

I like him as well, but that's a lot of money, well too much really for someone who's nearly 30. As for the lack of players coming in, if we're having trouble getting the players that Garde wants, then there's no point in panic buying and Naismith at £8.5m would have been a massive panic buy.

[saunders_heroes]

The Naismith argument is nonsense really. For all we know Garde might not have wanted him anyway. I think it's a bit desperate to use Steven Naismith signing for someone else as a stick to beat Lerner with.

Naismith ain't a bad player, but it's the total lack of any player incoming that's the problem.

I like him as well, but that's a lot of money, well too much really for someone who's nearly 30. As for the lack of players coming in, if we're having trouble getting the players that Garde wants, then there's no point in panic buying and Naismith at £8.5m would have been a massive panic buy.

We're rock bottom of the league. The longer we leave it the bigger the panic will be.

[glasses]

To be honest, in the state were in, I don't think anything other than loans or low cost punts are what we should go for. We are down bar the shouting, and any players worth buying won't touch us with a shitty stick. Had we had a good December, been within a point of Newcastle, or Bournemouth and not signed anyone by now, I'd be annoyed. But really, if you're a good premier league footballer, why would you join Villa right now?

[Clampy]

The Naismith argument is nonsense really. For all we know Garde might not have wanted him anyway. I think it's a bit desperate to use Steven Naismith signing for someone else as a stick to beat Lerner with.

Naismith ain't a bad player, but it's the total lack of any player incoming that's the problem.

I like him as well, but that's a lot of money, well too much really for someone who's nearly 30. As for the lack of players coming in, if we're having trouble getting the players that Garde wants, then there's no point in panic buying and Naismith at £8.5m would have been a massive panic buy.

We're rock bottom of the league. The longer we leave it the bigger the panic will be.

Yes I know but to be honest, unless we're gambling on someone who's going to make a difference, I don't see the point in buying just anybody and being rock bottom is not helping things anyway.

[OzVilla]

Exactly Glasses. We're down so why waste time and money on players till the end of a doomed season with relegation clauses. Plan for next year, if that means we sign no one this window then fine.

[Steve67]

Whether we are rock bottom or not, we still need to strengthen for next season regardless of the division we are in.

[ciggiesnbeer]

To be honest, in the state were in, I don't think anything other than loans or low cost punts are what we should go for. We are down bar the shouting, and any players worth buying won't touch us with a shitty stick. Had we had a good December, been within a point of Newcastle, or Bournemouth and not signed anyone by now, I'd be annoyed. But really, if you're a good premier league footballer, why would you join Villa right now?

Then imho we should be signing good players for the Championship. They might help kepe us up and will regardless get more time to gel for next season.

Zero signings means to me we have not only given up on survival but are assuming a new manager at end of season as well. Given this board's track record on managers in the premier league I am terrified how badly they can recruit in the Championship.