January 2016 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions

[auntiesledd]

I'm hoping we stick in a cheeky loan inquiry on 'The Beast' returning for the rest of the season. He evidently doesn't fit into Herr Klopp's plans, so perhaps he'll see the benefits of giving Mr B regular first team game-time elsewhere before he's flogged in the Summer?

[PaulWinch again]

a bonus to stay up?

i think that apart from continental signings we are really going to struggle to attract anyone who is currently playing in the pl

Could be right, but we havent signed anyone from foreign leagues either. There is no excuse. The club have known our desperate need for new players since early November. The new players should have been here the first week in January after doing all the hard work in December to get them signed up.

Instead it appears Lerner and crew thought making changes at the board room level somehow counts as acting to help the crisis, it is not. We need spending and players and we needed it weeks ago.

Any player worth his salt will not join Villa until all other avenues are explored and deadline day is looming. Sad but unfortunately true.

And I think a perfect example of that is Debuchy. His interview screamed, 'I'm going to wait and see if a better option comes along and if not I'll think about it'.

[Toronto Villa]

isn't Naismith exactly the type of mad, overpriced signing MON would have made and what put us in this mess in the first place?

[aev]

isn't Naismith exactly the type of mad, overpriced signing MON would have made and what put us in this mess in the first place?

Yeah an "attacking" Habib Beye.

File under "no thanks".

[ciggiesnbeer]

a bonus to stay up?

i think that apart from continental signings we are really going to struggle to attract anyone who is currently playing in the pl

Could be right, but we havent signed anyone from foreign leagues either. There is no excuse. The club have known our desperate need for new players since early November. The new players should have been here the first week in January after doing all the hard work in December to get them signed up.

Instead it appears Lerner and crew thought making changes at the board room level somehow counts as acting to help the crisis, it is not. We need spending and players and we needed it weeks ago.

Any player worth his salt will not join Villa until all other avenues are explored and deadline day is looming. Sad but unfortunately true.

It might be true, but the way I see it other clubs who are bottom of the league in the past have spent big and signed players. So we have not done so either because:

A.) we are somehow especially toxic to players for some reason beyond the likes of QPR, Sunderland, Leciester etc

or

B.) Lerner, Fox and the club have messed up a transfer window, again.

I go for B.

[AGRIPPA]

I don't envy them buying naismith but I do envy their willingness to spend money to stay in the league.

I'm starting to suspect we've decided against trying.

There was a stench of that as early as November, in my opinion.

My opinion too... The fact that we outlayed a minor net spend (£4.5m??) in the summer told me everything I didn't want to know....

[Hoppo]

It's not about Naismith, it's the fact we seem to have no plan z..

[Salsa Party Animal]

There must be some international strikers out of favour for the club who would love to jump to Villa so he can raise his profile for Euro 2016.  Whoever we sign permanent or on loan we need to make sure he will hit it running and start scoring goals something like 18 goals in next 15 games.

[andyh]

Would Adrian Ramos fit the bill?
http://www.kickoff.co.uk/62383/aston-villa-target-sensational-deal-for-bundesliga-marksman/

[saunders_heroes]

isn't Naismith exactly the type of mad, overpriced signing MON would have made and what put us in this mess in the first place?

O'Neill is responsible for us being bottom of the league? Ha!

[Villa in Denmark]

I've only skimmed the last couple of pages after the Vardy's debate, but are people really advocating spending somewhere between £8-10M for Naismith and wanting to pair him with Ayew?

The fee for Naismith is bonkers.
He'd either be back up to it instead of Ayew. Both similar attributes in the way they play the game. One is proven average, the other has shown real touches of class.

There's as much argument for pairing Ayew and Naismith as there is for pairing Kozak and Gestede. There isn't one. They're too similar a type of player.

It's the sort of deal MON would have done and on 3 years time whoever gets him will still be paying him God knows how much a week with no use for him.

He's not going to score goals at the rate Bent did to keep us up justifying the loss on fees and wages.

If you think Naismith is the answer to your missing goals to fight relegation, either your problem isn't that big or you've got it wrong.

[saunders_heroes]

Would Adrian Ramos fit the bill?
http://www.kickoff.co.uk/62383/aston-villa-target-sensational-deal-for-bundesliga-marksman/

Is this one of those bullshit websites?

[PaulWinch again]

Of course it is.

[Villa in Denmark]

isn't Naismith exactly the type of mad, overpriced signing MON would have made and what put us in this mess in the first place?

O'Neill is responsible for us being bottom of the league? Ha!

No. But it's the kind of signing that he made repeatedly that ultimately started this whole shitstorm. Beye, Shorey, L. Young for example.

Our current league position has nothing to do with him directly.
Given that during his tenure he wouldn't countenance any other influence within the club in addition to manager he was de-facto CEO, regardless of any other names floating about, until the day Faulkner called him out. That makes him partly responsible for the shitty, unsustainable state our finances were in.
How we dealt with the mess is another story, but he certainly had a role in kickstarting all of this.

[auntiesledd]

isn't Naismith exactly the type of mad, overpriced signing MON would have made and what put us in this mess in the first place?

I take it you were slagging MON off when we were challenging for a Champions League place? Besides anything else, it wasn't the manager who was responsible for the wages & contracts given to the players - but I doubt if that would change your opinion of him. I guess we all have our own version of events...