Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[Duncan Shaw]

True enough but they were already showing signs of being twats before that.

i suspect - and I have no evidence to back it up, just a hunch - that Sherwood allowed and encouraged a "laddish" enviornment as it was his way of building a "team spirit"  The French lads didn't get it, and Remi didn't like it coming in and it all imploded from there, with the "lads" no longer giving a shit.

[somec]

Certainly by Valencias standards as probably the thirds best team in Spain.

Atletico would have something to say about that.

[Colin B]

I am one of those who feel a large amount of discomfort about the way Remi has left the club. It still does not feel right to me

There has been something bugging me about his leaving and it has just occurred to me what it is.

He has been the only employee of the club to say that until we are mathmatically certain to go down we will continue to fight for the points to stay up.

He even said it after the Swansea game

I haven't heard that from any player or any member of the board - either new or old.

Or at least I can't recall anyone else saying it - I may be wrong

Gl Remi wherever you turn up

[conman]

I am one of those who feel a large amount of discomfort about the way Remi has left the club. It still does not feel right to me

There has been something bugging me about his leaving and it has just occurred to me what it is.

He has been the only employee of the club to say that until we are mathmatically certain to go down we will continue to fight for the points to stay up.

He even said it after the Swansea game

I haven't heard that from any player or any member of the board - either new or old.

Or at least I can't recall anyone else saying it - I may be wrong

Gl Remi wherever you turn up

maybe we should have kept him on for not being realistic

[gpbarr]

I am one of those who feel a large amount of discomfort about the way Remi has left the club. It still does not feel right to me

There has been something bugging me about his leaving and it has just occurred to me what it is.

He has been the only employee of the club to say that until we are mathmatically certain to go down we will continue to fight for the points to stay up.

He even said it after the Swansea game

I haven't heard that from any player or any member of the board - either new or old.

Or at least I can't recall anyone else saying it - I may be wrong

Gl Remi wherever you turn up

maybe we should have kept him on for not being realistic

because the fans are realistic?!?

[conman]

I am one of those who feel a large amount of discomfort about the way Remi has left the club. It still does not feel right to me

There has been something bugging me about his leaving and it has just occurred to me what it is.

He has been the only employee of the club to say that until we are mathmatically certain to go down we will continue to fight for the points to stay up.

He even said it after the Swansea game

I haven't heard that from any player or any member of the board - either new or old.

Or at least I can't recall anyone else saying it - I may be wrong

Gl Remi wherever you turn up

maybe we should have kept him on for not being realistic

because the fans are realistic?!?

yes , ok not mathematically down  , but i would say 99% realise that we are already relegated

[TB]

maybe we should have kept him on for not being realistic

He's gone, and under the circumstances I think it was for the best. But you're actually criticizing the manager for not wanting to give up before task of staying up was mathematically impossible.

Did you want the players to be equally realistic as well and not bother to put a shift in?

[conman]

maybe we should have kept him on for not being realistic

He's gone, and under the circumstances I think it was for the best. But you're actually criticizing the manager for not wanting to give up before task of staying up was mathematically impossible.

Did you want the players to be equally realistic as well and not bother to put a shift in?

no of course not , and i am sure Remi knew it too , but he cant come out in a press conference and say it while he is still the manager

[ozzjim]

maybe we should have kept him on for not being realistic

He's gone, and under the circumstances I think it was for the best. But you're actually criticizing the manager for not wanting to give up before task of staying up was mathematically impossible.

Did you want the players to be equally realistic as well and not bother to put a shift in?

no of course not , and i am sure Remi knew it too , but he cant come out in a press conference and say it while he is still the manager

Did Pearson know it at Leicester last season before they escaped? Surely the manager is the one who should believe until the very last kick.

[TB]

no of course not , and i am sure Remi knew it too , but he cant come out in a press conference and say it while he is still the manager

I'm confused. Your point seemed to be that he wasn't being realistic when he said they would continue to fight until it was mathematically impossible to stay up. I'd say he was being professional to the very end, acting like any fan would want  their manager and players to do. Why should he say otherwise? I'd hate the manager to admit defeat when there was a small chance of survival.

[conman]

maybe we should have kept him on for not being realistic

He's gone, and under the circumstances I think it was for the best. But you're actually criticizing the manager for not wanting to give up before task of staying up was mathematically impossible.

Did you want the players to be equally realistic as well and not bother to put a shift in?

no of course not , and i am sure Remi knew it too , but he cant come out in a press conference and say it while he is still the manager

Did Pearson know it at Leicester last season before they escaped? Surely the manager is the one who should believe until the very last kick.

I would say yes , with the players they had and the way they were playing I am sure Pearson knew all along they would stay up
Remi comes out with things like admitting he cant motivate the players

[conman]

no of course not , and i am sure Remi knew it too , but he cant come out in a press conference and say it while he is still the manager

I'm confused. Your point seemed to be that he wasn't being realistic when he said they would continue to fight until it was mathematically impossible to stay up. I'd say he was being professional to the very end, acting like any fan would want  their manager and players to do. Why should he say otherwise? I'd hate the manager to admit defeat when there was a small chance of survival.

Yes i agree he had to be and was  professional to the very end when talking to the press , telling them we can still stay up , which was unrealistic
but lets face it with the reactions he was getting from the players , our position in the table , the way we were playing , he must have known deep down  that we had no chance of staying up , but couldnt say it in public what he realistically thought

[TB]

I would say yes , with the players they had and the way they were playing I am sure Pearson knew all along they would stay up
Remi comes out with things like admitting he cant motivate the players

There's a vast difference between the manager admitting he can't motivate the players and the manager stating that the players are not willing put the required shift in. Professionals, eh?

I guess it's a matter of perspective.

[TB]

'I am sure Pearson knew all along they would stay up'. Really? Oh well, sign him up. A clairvoyant manager would be just the thing...

[conman]

I would say yes , with the players they had and the way they were playing I am sure Pearson knew all along they would stay up
Remi comes out with things like admitting he cant motivate the players

There's a vast difference between the manager admitting he can't motivate the players and the manager stating that the players are not willing put the required shift in. Professionals, eh?

I guess it's a matter of perspective.

yes , sorry , your right , I didnt put my point across very well , I think he said something like he wasnt seeing commitment from the players in training . which was a bit of an indictment on him