Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[SheffieldVillain]

hah! Since when has Hollis had any control on what we spend?

Since he was appointed as Chairman?

He's employed by Lerner and follows Lerner's wishes. Do you really think if garde asks to keep the likes of Ayew when we get relegated and another 20m on top for new players, Hollis would be in a position to okay it whatever he thinks personally?

Read the article. He's going to sanction spending as any chairman would. Joe Lewis owns Tottenham. Daniel Levy makes decisions in the same way Hollis will have the power to do.

Within his remit. He can't just spend money that Lerner hasn't budgeted for.

So he doesn't have "no control over the money we spend", does he? Now you're saying he has control over the money we spend within his remit. Which is it?

[sickbeggar]

hah! Since when has Hollis had any control on what we spend?

Since he was appointed as Chairman?

He's employed by Lerner and follows Lerner's wishes. Do you really think if garde asks to keep the likes of Ayew when we get relegated and another 20m on top for new players, Hollis would be in a position to okay it whatever he thinks personally?

Read the article. He's going to sanction spending as any chairman would. Joe Lewis owns Tottenham. Daniel Levy makes decisions in the same way Hollis will have the power to do.

Within his remit. He can't just spend money that Lerner hasn't budgeted for.

Randy isn't doing the budgeting. That's the point. The board is.

Yes within our means which is sweet f.a.  unless you think they can just withdraw cash from Lerner's bank account to fund us and he just goes "nothing to do with me"

[Chico Hamilton III]

You have to ask what sort of budget whoever is controlling it will have. I'm no accountant but Randy's cut up his credit card, we've just reported a 20m loss and we're about to drop out of the richest league in the world with only a parachute payment to live on. How much are we likely to be spending?

[sickbeggar]

hah! Since when has Hollis had any control on what we spend?

Since he was appointed as Chairman?

He's employed by Lerner and follows Lerner's wishes. Do you really think if garde asks to keep the likes of Ayew when we get relegated and another 20m on top for new players, Hollis would be in a position to okay it whatever he thinks personally?

Read the article. He's going to sanction spending as any chairman would. Joe Lewis owns Tottenham. Daniel Levy makes decisions in the same way Hollis will have the power to do.

Within his remit. He can't just spend money that Lerner hasn't budgeted for.

So he doesn't have "no control over the money we spend", does he? Now you're saying he has control over the money we spend within his remit. Which is it?

okay he has control of the money the club generates. So that's erm.......well let's just say don't expect many signings this summer unlss they're free or funded by sales

[Steve67]

I think we can probably agree that Hollis will cut costs where appropriate and will run the club in the same way Ellis used to, like a business. If there is money spare then we spend it on players. Randy won't bankroll like he used to. Hollis will be responsible for the daily running but will be expected NOT to lose money.

[brian green]

If, to use your example Remi Garde wants to keep Ayew plus £20 million to spend on top and it is a condition of Remi Garde staying Mervyn King would phone Randy Lerner and talk about it.  Randy is a banker, Mervyn King was one of the most powerful bankers in the world.  It would be like your parish priest getting a call from the Pope.  Likewise we shall never get knocked back by a veto in an FA committee as unfairly as we were in January. 

[sickbeggar]

I think we can probably agree that Hollis will cut costs where appropriate and will run the club in the same way Ellis used to, like a business. If there is money spare then we spend it on players. Randy won't bankroll like he used to. Hollis will be responsible for the daily running but will be expected NOT to lose money.

Precisely. Garde can turn up with any wishlist he likes but if it involves the club spending more than it gets it from transfers he might as well have Messi on the list

[john e]

I think we can probably agree that Hollis will cut costs where appropriate and will run the club in the same way Ellis used to, like a business. If there is money spare then we spend it on players. Randy won't bankroll like he used to. Hollis will be responsible for the daily running but will be expected NOT to lose money.

Precisely. Garde can turn up with any wishlist he likes but if it involves the club spending more than it gets it from transfers he might as well have Messi on the list

To be honest I would take him

[sickbeggar]

If, to use your example Remi Garde wants to keep Ayew plus £20 million to spend on top and it is a condition of Remi Garde staying Mervyn King would phone Randy Lerner and talk about it.  Randy is a banker, Mervyn King was one of the most powerful bankers in the world.  It would be like your parish priest getting a call from the Pope.  Likewise we shall never get knocked back by a veto in an FA committee as unfairly as we were in January.

I just love this idea of Mervyn King doing an aboutface from his years as a prudent banker and urging Lerner to splash the cash at every opportunity

[supertom]

You have to ask what sort of budget whoever is controlling it will have. I'm no accountant but Randy's cut up his credit card, we've just reported a 20m loss and we're about to drop out of the richest league in the world with only a parachute payment to live on. How much are we likely to be spending?

We'll spend anything we raise in funds and there will be a firesale. I expect most of last seasons signings to be gone and we'll probably recoup about 25-30 million (from the 50 odd we spent). In addition there will be a handful of players out of contract which frees up some wages.

At that point we sign 5-6 half decent players with a bit of experience and desire, and players who are actually likely to blend together as a team. Then there will be a big onus on our youngsters to step up to the plate.

[SheffieldVillain]

If, to use your example Remi Garde wants to keep Ayew plus £20 million to spend on top and it is a condition of Remi Garde staying Mervyn King would phone Randy Lerner and talk about it.  Randy is a banker, Mervyn King was one of the most powerful bankers in the world.  It would be like your parish priest getting a call from the Pope.  Likewise we shall never get knocked back by a veto in an FA committee as unfairly as we were in January.

I just love this idea of Mervyn King doing an aboutface from his years as a prudent banker and urging Lerner to splash the cash at every opportunity

Only that's not at all what Brian said, is it?

[sickbeggar]

If, to use your example Remi Garde wants to keep Ayew plus £20 million to spend on top and it is a condition of Remi Garde staying Mervyn King would phone Randy Lerner and talk about it.  Randy is a banker, Mervyn King was one of the most powerful bankers in the world.  It would be like your parish priest getting a call from the Pope.  Likewise we shall never get knocked back by a veto in an FA committee as unfairly as we were in January.

I just love this idea of Mervyn King doing an aboutface from his years as a prudent banker and urging Lerner to splash the cash at every opportunity

Only that's not at all what Brian said, is it?

okay so he's phoning lerner to tell him NOT to throw another 20m at a business facing a financial black hole? makes sense now.

[four fornicholl]

If, to use your example Remi Garde wants to keep Ayew plus £20 million to spend on top and it is a condition of Remi Garde staying Mervyn King would phone Randy Lerner and talk about it.  Randy is a banker, Mervyn King was one of the most powerful bankers in the world.  It would be like your parish priest getting a call from the Pope.  Likewise we shall never get knocked back by a veto in an FA committee as unfairly as we were in January.

I just love this idea of Mervyn King doing an aboutface from his years as a prudent banker and urging Lerner to splash the cash at every opportunity

He is villa and if I was in his position

[SheffieldVillain]

If, to use your example Remi Garde wants to keep Ayew plus £20 million to spend on top and it is a condition of Remi Garde staying Mervyn King would phone Randy Lerner and talk about it.  Randy is a banker, Mervyn King was one of the most powerful bankers in the world.  It would be like your parish priest getting a call from the Pope.  Likewise we shall never get knocked back by a veto in an FA committee as unfairly as we were in January.

I just love this idea of Mervyn King doing an aboutface from his years as a prudent banker and urging Lerner to splash the cash at every opportunity

Only that's not at all what Brian said, is it?

okay so he's phoning lerner to tell him NOT to throw another 20m at a business facing a financial black hole? makes sense now.

You do understand the meaning of 'at every available opportunity', don't you?

[sickbeggar]

If, to use your example Remi Garde wants to keep Ayew plus £20 million to spend on top and it is a condition of Remi Garde staying Mervyn King would phone Randy Lerner and talk about it.  Randy is a banker, Mervyn King was one of the most powerful bankers in the world.  It would be like your parish priest getting a call from the Pope.  Likewise we shall never get knocked back by a veto in an FA committee as unfairly as we were in January.

I just love this idea of Mervyn King doing an aboutface from his years as a prudent banker and urging Lerner to splash the cash at every opportunity

He is villa and if I was in his position

Well quite but realistically i would suggest that's he's been brought in to manage the huge losses and rationalise us to a leaner core business that can survive rather than him encouraging Randy to get his wallet out.