Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[ez]

He can't keep coming out, week after week openly asking for his players to offer him more. At some point Garde must be held accountable for the fact that his players aren't performing for him and they're not even close to giving their all for him. He's not getting 100% from them. Even if we had a manager doing that, this lot would still struggle to stay up. Unfortunately we need one of those managers, as O Neill was, who can get a group of players playing above themselves.

If they are not able to perform that's not his fault.

Only if you accept that a manager cannot have any impact on a player's performance.

I don't have any strong feelings either for or against him remaining our manager next season, but if we were to accept that Garde is blameless for the players being hopeless and that there is nothing that he is able to do to improve them, then what was the point in getting rid of the last guy?

No point at all.

[Toronto Villa]

Thing is with decisions they are not obviously good or bad ones at the time. Garde seemed a good decision at the time. He came with a pretty decent CV and he was taking over from Sherwood. Plus he wasn't Pulis or Warnock or Curbs or Pearson or Jewell or Brown or Strachan etc etc. So in hindsight it hasn't worked out. Partly down to him but also down to the clowns who hired him and the mess they have made of things and much of it down to the players he needs to manage with their deep rooted psychological issues. If you could invent a shit storm it would look a lot like what we are.

[Mister E]

Do we need a change to build some momentum and to give hope going in to the Championship?

We definitely need a change but I think we're beyond building momentum now. I can't see us, regardless of Remi going now or in May (the latter is pretty much a given) picking up many points. Remi will leave, I'd personally let him go now and let a caretaker see us through the last 8 games. We need to be resigned to the inevitable now and the last 8 games should be played without pressure and perhaps the shackles off. Maybe Sid and Brian in unison for the last 8 games.

The last person I'd change right now is the manager. The people above and around him need removing and then let's see how good he is. We need to see him operating in tandem with a propoerly-qualified board, with a coherent club and playing strategy, a bunch of motivated players, a decent coaching staff and a player-acquisition policy and youth-development approach that enables a distinctive playing style to be developed over a period of years.
In short, a rootand-branches overhaul.

Amateur night has to end.

[brian green]

There is no way the board will even consider replacing a manager who has not been allowed to sign not ONE single player.  Remi may walk and there is not any fair minded person who would blame him but they will not sack him.

[Toronto Villa]

I agree Brian. They are not going to fire him. But I don't think he'll quit either. As horrendous as it has been I think he'll be backed to conduct the clear out in the summer. I think he's made his point to the board about what needs fixing and he'll be backed to do it. I think relegation will see a much needed clear out all across the club. That's why Hollis has brought in King, Little and Bernstein when he has.

[brian green]

Agree TV. What also has to be taken into account is that two massive heavyweights like Mervyn King and David Bernstein are not going to put their reputations at risk playing the crazy dice rolling games that have gone on for the last six years. If Steve Hollis sucks his teeth at the sums of money Remi asks for, King and Bernstein will mark his card of that I am certain.

[sickbeggar]

hah! Since when has Hollis had any control on what we spend? It's Lerner and if King and Bernstein don't like it they will go. Anyway, i'm not sure a Governor of the Bank of England was brought in to encourage a splurge of spending while we're losing millions. The opposite i would have thought.

[SheffieldVillain]

hah! Since when has Hollis had any control on what we spend?

Since he was appointed as Chairman?

[Toronto Villa]

Which is something he defined quite clearly shortly after he took the position.

Steve Hollis interview

[sickbeggar]

hah! Since when has Hollis had any control on what we spend?

Since he was appointed as Chairman?

He's employed by Lerner and follows Lerner's wishes. Do you really think if garde asks to keep the likes of Ayew when we get relegated and another 20m on top for new players, Hollis would be in a position to okay it whatever he thinks personally?

[supertom]

Do we need a change to build some momentum and to give hope going in to the Championship?

We definitely need a change but I think we're beyond building momentum now. I can't see us, regardless of Remi going now or in May (the latter is pretty much a given) picking up many points. Remi will leave, I'd personally let him go now and let a caretaker see us through the last 8 games. We need to be resigned to the inevitable now and the last 8 games should be played without pressure and perhaps the shackles off. Maybe Sid and Brian in unison for the last 8 games.

The last person I'd change right now is the manager. The people above and around him need removing and then let's see how good he is. We need to see him operating in tandem with a propoerly-qualified board, with a coherent club and playing strategy, a bunch of motivated players, a decent coaching staff and a player-acquisition policy and youth-development approach that enables a distinctive playing style to be developed over a period of years.
In short, a rootand-branches overhaul.

Amateur night has to end.

The only way forward is an overhaul this summer with a genuinely effective and realistic plan put into place to rebuild the club. I still think Remi will end up walking. He just seems to have had all enthusiasm beaten out of him and he's had no idea how to get the best of the limited talent at his disposal. I think it's too much to ask for him to come back rejuvenated in July, ready to build a squad almost entirely from scratch (because he appears to have lost almost every player, and those who still perform for him are likely to leave). Remi has the look of a manager who needs a year off before he comes back into the game. He just looks utterly defeated. I don't think there's anyway back for him at this club.

Of course until Randy buggers off we're pretty much on a hiding to nothing.

[Toronto Villa]

hah! Since when has Hollis had any control on what we spend?

Since he was appointed as Chairman?

He's employed by Lerner and follows Lerner's wishes. Do you really think if garde asks to keep the likes of Ayew when we get relegated and another 20m on top for new players, Hollis would be in a position to okay it whatever he thinks personally?

Read the article. He's going to sanction spending as any chairman would. Joe Lewis owns Tottenham. Daniel Levy makes decisions in the same way Hollis will have the power to do.

[sickbeggar]

hah! Since when has Hollis had any control on what we spend?

Since he was appointed as Chairman?

He's employed by Lerner and follows Lerner's wishes. Do you really think if garde asks to keep the likes of Ayew when we get relegated and another 20m on top for new players, Hollis would be in a position to okay it whatever he thinks personally?

Read the article. He's going to sanction spending as any chairman would. Joe Lewis owns Tottenham. Daniel Levy makes decisions in the same way Hollis will have the power to do.

Within his remit. He can't just spend money that Lerner hasn't budgeted for.

[Steve67]

That interview is completely at odds with what is happening in reality. The relationship between Fox and Remi is the most important? Yet he wasn't supported in the transfer market.  Remove the negativity? Sorry, but it's got far worse. Censorship rules ok.

[Toronto Villa]

hah! Since when has Hollis had any control on what we spend?

Since he was appointed as Chairman?

He's employed by Lerner and follows Lerner's wishes. Do you really think if garde asks to keep the likes of Ayew when we get relegated and another 20m on top for new players, Hollis would be in a position to okay it whatever he thinks personally?

Read the article. He's going to sanction spending as any chairman would. Joe Lewis owns Tottenham. Daniel Levy makes decisions in the same way Hollis will have the power to do.

Within his remit. He can't just spend money that Lerner hasn't budgeted for.

Randy isn't doing the budgeting. That's the point. The board is.