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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5385 on: February 29, 2016, 01:16:39 PM »
I wasn't sure about the striker situation but I believed that our midfield would have contributed a lot more than they have. Especially as that is one of the good things Sherwood did when he arrived. The midfield really attacked the area and contributed to some key goals last season. It just didn't happen this season and it has hurt us.


This type of view was reliant on the new midfielders, as unit, being better than the midfield which had Delph, Cleverley and Grealish in it while laying at their best.

Of course we were all hopeful, but on walking out of the first home game vs. Man U, I was fairly clear we were down unless we found a different way of playing.  We've never really tried anything other than 4-5-1 in a variety of formats - all with the same result.


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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5386 on: February 29, 2016, 01:17:26 PM »
Don't know where to post this but I am just onboard an Emirates flight to Dubai , I am off to Shanghai, and big Ron is  here. Already spoken to him but I will invite him for his favourite tipple when we are in the air and find out what he thinks about is just now.

If you're trying to make us jealous, its working!

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5387 on: February 29, 2016, 01:31:44 PM »
The big crunch is going to come when Remi meets Hollis in the summer and presents his list of demands if he is to stay.  That meeting will define the future of the club for years to come.  It is absolutely essential that the insane budgetary constraints of last January are not repeated but I have serious doubts about the reason why Lerner has put Hollis in place.  I fear that Hollis will serve his master and Remi will leave us.

A lesser manager may well kick and claw a way back via the play offs I have no doubt but without Garde the concept of long term planning and secure reestablishment in the Premiership will go with him.  Our ambition will be to be like West Bromwich Albion.


I'm not so sure.

There is a  massive opportunity at Villa, and Hollis has the chance of lifetime to cover himself in glory.

I had the good fortune (it almost chokes me to say this) to watch Spurs at WHL with wife who's al lifelong Spurs supporter but loves football generally and is therefore a Villa season ticket holder.

When you see where they are and heading compared to where we are and heading, you can see the massive opportunity for us with the right boardroom management. 

WHL is a small dump.  They need to build a new stadium and rent Wembley for a year, whereas we already have everything we need built or could easily be added to.

The major difference since MON left us is that Levy has continued to develop Spurs and we've been mismanaged to unbelievably negligent levels.

I'm optimistic that although it might take time, with the right chairman and board there's a massive opportunity ahead.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5388 on: February 29, 2016, 01:36:12 PM »
The big crunch is going to come when Remi meets Hollis in the summer and presents his list of demands if he is to stay.  That meeting will define the future of the club for years to come.  It is absolutely essential that the insane budgetary constraints of last January are not repeated but I have serious doubts about the reason why Lerner has put Hollis in place.  I fear that Hollis will serve his master and Remi will leave us.

A lesser manager may well kick and claw a way back via the play offs I have no doubt but without Garde the concept of long term planning and secure reestablishment in the Premiership will go with him.  Our ambition will be to be like West Bromwich Albion.


I'm not so sure.

There is a  massive opportunity at Villa, and Hollis has the chance of lifetime to cover himself in glory.

I had the good fortune (it almost chokes me to say this) to watch Spurs at WHL with wife who's al lifelong Spurs supporter but loves football generally and is therefore a Villa season ticket holder.

When you see where they are and heading compared to where we are and heading, you can see the massive opportunity for us with the right boardroom management. 

WHL is a small dump.  They need to build a new stadium and rent Wembley for a year, whereas we already have everything we need built or could easily be added to.

The major difference since MON left us is that Levy has continued to develop Spurs and we've been mismanaged to unbelievably negligent levels.

I'm optimistic that although it might take time, with the right chairman and board there's a massive opportunity ahead.

I reckon season tickets for Spurs must be double what we charge at Villa though?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5389 on: February 29, 2016, 01:42:15 PM »
The big crunch is going to come when Remi meets Hollis in the summer and presents his list of demands if he is to stay.  That meeting will define the future of the club for years to come.  It is absolutely essential that the insane budgetary constraints of last January are not repeated but I have serious doubts about the reason why Lerner has put Hollis in place.  I fear that Hollis will serve his master and Remi will leave us.

A lesser manager may well kick and claw a way back via the play offs I have no doubt but without Garde the concept of long term planning and secure reestablishment in the Premiership will go with him.  Our ambition will be to be like West Bromwich Albion.


I'm not so sure.

There is a  massive opportunity at Villa, and Hollis has the chance of lifetime to cover himself in glory.

I had the good fortune (it almost chokes me to say this) to watch Spurs at WHL with wife who's al lifelong Spurs supporter but loves football generally and is therefore a Villa season ticket holder.

When you see where they are and heading compared to where we are and heading, you can see the massive opportunity for us with the right boardroom management. 

WHL is a small dump.  They need to build a new stadium and rent Wembley for a year, whereas we already have everything we need built or could easily be added to.

The major difference since MON left us is that Levy has continued to develop Spurs and we've been mismanaged to unbelievably negligent levels.

I'm optimistic that although it might take time, with the right chairman and board there's a massive opportunity ahead.

Nice to see some positivity. However the difference with Spurs even whilst they've been in 36,000 seater WHL is that their matchday income still dwarfed ours even when we were getting 40k or close to. As Chico has alluded to STs and ticket prices are a lot higher, and they attract a lot more corporate clients.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5390 on: February 29, 2016, 01:52:37 PM »
you can put your arm around players going through lean spells,

you can give them a rollicking from time to time

when you've no alternatives they know that they don't really need to bust a gut and there is not a lot you can do about it if they just can't be arsed when they step on the pitch


the curse of the modern footballer and football in general, I'm nearly ready to give up on it all

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5391 on: February 29, 2016, 01:57:47 PM »
The big crunch is going to come when Remi meets Hollis in the summer and presents his list of demands if he is to stay.  That meeting will define the future of the club for years to come.  It is absolutely essential that the insane budgetary constraints of last January are not repeated but I have serious doubts about the reason why Lerner has put Hollis in place.  I fear that Hollis will serve his master and Remi will leave us.

A lesser manager may well kick and claw a way back via the play offs I have no doubt but without Garde the concept of long term planning and secure reestablishment in the Premiership will go with him.  Our ambition will be to be like West Bromwich Albion.


I'm not so sure.

There is a  massive opportunity at Villa, and Hollis has the chance of lifetime to cover himself in glory.

I had the good fortune (it almost chokes me to say this) to watch Spurs at WHL with wife who's al lifelong Spurs supporter but loves football generally and is therefore a Villa season ticket holder.

When you see where they are and heading compared to where we are and heading, you can see the massive opportunity for us with the right boardroom management. 

WHL is a small dump.  They need to build a new stadium and rent Wembley for a year, whereas we already have everything we need built or could easily be added to.

The major difference since MON left us is that Levy has continued to develop Spurs and we've been mismanaged to unbelievably negligent levels.

I'm optimistic that although it might take time, with the right chairman and board there's a massive opportunity ahead.

Nice to see some positivity. However the difference with Spurs even whilst they've been in 36,000 seater WHL is that their matchday income still dwarfed ours even when we were getting 40k or close to. As Chico has alluded to STs and ticket prices are a lot higher, and they attract a lot more corporate clients.

Of course their revenues are higher.  And that's largely down to the corporate deals, rather than ticket sales.

But surely the opportunity/challenge of making the biggest team in the Midlands at least on a par with the 3rd biggest team in London is not unreasonable.



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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5392 on: February 29, 2016, 02:03:32 PM »
The big crunch is going to come when Remi meets Hollis in the summer and presents his list of demands if he is to stay.  That meeting will define the future of the club for years to come.  It is absolutely essential that the insane budgetary constraints of last January are not repeated but I have serious doubts about the reason why Lerner has put Hollis in place.  I fear that Hollis will serve his master and Remi will leave us.

A lesser manager may well kick and claw a way back via the play offs I have no doubt but without Garde the concept of long term planning and secure reestablishment in the Premiership will go with him.  Our ambition will be to be like West Bromwich Albion.


I'm not so sure.

There is a  massive opportunity at Villa, and Hollis has the chance of lifetime to cover himself in glory.

I had the good fortune (it almost chokes me to say this) to watch Spurs at WHL with wife who's al lifelong Spurs supporter but loves football generally and is therefore a Villa season ticket holder.

When you see where they are and heading compared to where we are and heading, you can see the massive opportunity for us with the right boardroom management. 

WHL is a small dump.  They need to build a new stadium and rent Wembley for a year, whereas we already have everything we need built or could easily be added to.

The major difference since MON left us is that Levy has continued to develop Spurs and we've been mismanaged to unbelievably negligent levels.

I'm optimistic that although it might take time, with the right chairman and board there's a massive opportunity ahead.

Nice to see some positivity. However the difference with Spurs even whilst they've been in 36,000 seater WHL is that their matchday income still dwarfed ours even when we were getting 40k or close to. As Chico has alluded to STs and ticket prices are a lot higher, and they attract a lot more corporate clients.

Of course their revenues are higher.  And that's largely down to the corporate deals, rather than ticket sales.

But surely the opportunity/challenge of making the biggest team in the Midlands at least on a par with the 3rd biggest team in London is not unreasonable.




Not sure if these represent the latest stats, but Spurs' matchday revenue is £35m, compared to £13m at Villa. And there's an almost unlimited supply of rich Hertfordshire residents will be queuing for tickets to the new stadium

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/29/premier-league-finances-club-by-club

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5393 on: February 29, 2016, 02:03:53 PM »
The big crunch is going to come when Remi meets Hollis in the summer and presents his list of demands if he is to stay.  That meeting will define the future of the club for years to come.  It is absolutely essential that the insane budgetary constraints of last January are not repeated but I have serious doubts about the reason why Lerner has put Hollis in place.  I fear that Hollis will serve his master and Remi will leave us.

A lesser manager may well kick and claw a way back via the play offs I have no doubt but without Garde the concept of long term planning and secure reestablishment in the Premiership will go with him.  Our ambition will be to be like West Bromwich Albion.


I'm not so sure.

There is a  massive opportunity at Villa, and Hollis has the chance of lifetime to cover himself in glory.

I had the good fortune (it almost chokes me to say this) to watch Spurs at WHL with wife who's al lifelong Spurs supporter but loves football generally and is therefore a Villa season ticket holder.

When you see where they are and heading compared to where we are and heading, you can see the massive opportunity for us with the right boardroom management. 

WHL is a small dump.  They need to build a new stadium and rent Wembley for a year, whereas we already have everything we need built or could easily be added to.

The major difference since MON left us is that Levy has continued to develop Spurs and we've been mismanaged to unbelievably negligent levels.

I'm optimistic that although it might take time, with the right chairman and board there's a massive opportunity ahead.

Nice to see some positivity. However the difference with Spurs even whilst they've been in 36,000 seater WHL is that their matchday income still dwarfed ours even when we were getting 40k or close to. As Chico has alluded to STs and ticket prices are a lot higher, and they attract a lot more corporate clients.

Of course their revenues are higher.  And that's largely down to the corporate deals, rather than ticket sales.

But surely the opportunity/challenge of making the biggest team in the Midlands at least on a par with the 3rd biggest team in London is not unreasonable.

You would think not. However the lack of interest in buying the club tells us that perhaps people outside of this region don't care too much for it or us, and it's only a challenge that would really interest a Villa man.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5394 on: February 29, 2016, 02:19:41 PM »
The big crunch is going to come when Remi meets Hollis in the summer and presents his list of demands if he is to stay.  That meeting will define the future of the club for years to come.  It is absolutely essential that the insane budgetary constraints of last January are not repeated but I have serious doubts about the reason why Lerner has put Hollis in place.  I fear that Hollis will serve his master and Remi will leave us.

A lesser manager may well kick and claw a way back via the play offs I have no doubt but without Garde the concept of long term planning and secure reestablishment in the Premiership will go with him.  Our ambition will be to be like West Bromwich Albion.


I'm not so sure.

There is a  massive opportunity at Villa, and Hollis has the chance of lifetime to cover himself in glory.

I had the good fortune (it almost chokes me to say this) to watch Spurs at WHL with wife who's al lifelong Spurs supporter but loves football generally and is therefore a Villa season ticket holder.

When you see where they are and heading compared to where we are and heading, you can see the massive opportunity for us with the right boardroom management. 

WHL is a small dump.  They need to build a new stadium and rent Wembley for a year, whereas we already have everything we need built or could easily be added to.

The major difference since MON left us is that Levy has continued to develop Spurs and we've been mismanaged to unbelievably negligent levels.

I'm optimistic that although it might take time, with the right chairman and board there's a massive opportunity ahead.

Nice to see some positivity. However the difference with Spurs even whilst they've been in 36,000 seater WHL is that their matchday income still dwarfed ours even when we were getting 40k or close to. As Chico has alluded to STs and ticket prices are a lot higher, and they attract a lot more corporate clients.

Of course their revenues are higher.  And that's largely down to the corporate deals, rather than ticket sales.

But surely the opportunity/challenge of making the biggest team in the Midlands at least on a par with the 3rd biggest team in London is not unreasonable.




Not sure if these represent the latest stats, but Spurs' matchday revenue is £35m, compared to £13m at Villa. And there's an almost unlimited supply of rich Hertfordshire residents will be queuing for tickets to the new stadium

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/29/premier-league-finances-club-by-club

Just had a look back at the last season of the MON tenure (2009-10), it surprised me that our matchday revenue was actually just above Spurs' at that point, 21m v 20m. Just shows the completely opposite directions we've gone in since, theirs is getting on for double whilst we've lost almost half of ours.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5395 on: February 29, 2016, 02:25:56 PM »
Matching Spurs is not without its challenges, but we're not talking about catching Man Utd here.

All I'm trying to say is that we've gone backwards whereas they've moved on and are now challenging for the title with the league's 6th highest turnover.

We were 9th on the same set of figures.  Surely any businessman worth his salt would feel that would be a gap that could be closed?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5396 on: February 29, 2016, 02:35:11 PM »
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wasn't sure about the striker situation but I believed that our midfield would have contributed a lot more than they have. Especially as that is one of the good things Sherwood did when he arrived. The midfield really attacked the area and contributed to some key goals last season. It just didn't happen this season and it has hurt us.

Absolutely. To spend £20M on two central midfielders (Gueye and Veretout) who have yet to contribute a single goal between them in the league should be enough to get Reilly sacked straight off.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5397 on: February 29, 2016, 02:44:47 PM »
Dean Smith or Gary Rowett... Oops... Did I say that out loud?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5398 on: February 29, 2016, 02:55:57 PM »
Dean Smith or Gary Rowett... Oops... Did I say that out loud?
simon grayson

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #5399 on: February 29, 2016, 03:01:28 PM »
If Remi went I think Rowett would be my man.

 


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