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Author Topic: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa  (Read 943047 times)

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4980 on: February 20, 2016, 03:46:06 PM »
Can anyone who thinks we've seen no improvement since he took over explain how, even after last weekend's debacle, we are 11th on current form?

11th! Given how we ended last season, I would be delighted if that was our actual position, and that is where he has us playing to right now.

Sadly, there is too much ground to make up, and the teams around us are also showing improved form so the upturn isn't showing in our league position, but our form is clearly better than the first half of the season.

Last week was awful, but it was one game after a reasonable run where there was cause for cautious optimism. A current form table that still places us 11th maybe gives that a bit of context.

2 wins in 14, i think a minus 14 gd and still rock bottom but hey we are 11th on current form. 

i'll try and remember that when we are away at rotherham in february

We'll be at Rotherham next season because of stuff that's happened before now. We were losing EVERY game, then we started to draw some, and IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS we have won a couple (not in the last 14) - that is an upturn. I don't see how itv can be argued that it isn't.

I don't think we need to worry about being at Rotherham next season.




They are 5 points from safety and losing again today.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4981 on: February 20, 2016, 04:39:16 PM »
Can anyone who thinks we've seen no improvement since he took over explain how, even after last weekend's debacle, we are 11th on current form?

11th! Given how we ended last season, I would be delighted if that was our actual position, and that is where he has us playing to right now.

Sadly, there is too much ground to make up, and the teams around us are also showing improved form so the upturn isn't showing in our league position, but our form is clearly better than the first half of the season.

Last week was awful, but it was one game after a reasonable run where there was cause for cautious optimism. A current form table that still places us 11th maybe gives that a bit of context.

2 wins in 14, i think a minus 14 gd and still rock bottom but hey we are 11th on current form. 

i'll try and remember that when we are away at rotherham in february

We'll be at Rotherham next season because of stuff that's happened before now. We were losing EVERY game, then we started to draw some, and IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS we have won a couple (not in the last 14) - that is an upturn. I don't see how itv can be argued that it isn't.

I don't think we need to worry about being at Rotherham next season.




They are 5 points from safety and losing again today.

Oh balls
i was looking forward to that

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4982 on: February 20, 2016, 04:56:59 PM »
These away games in February just keep piling up, don't they?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4983 on: February 20, 2016, 05:32:47 PM »
I'll post something similar in the other football thread but, I'm over here in that there London and I'm just in from watching Brentford v Derby.   If we hang on to the better players we have and add a couple of steady players in the right positions then, we'll be there or thereabouts.


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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4984 on: February 20, 2016, 07:29:29 PM »
I'll post something similar in the other football thread but, I'm over here in that there London and I'm just in from watching Brentford v Derby.   If we hang on to the better players we have and add a couple of steady players in the right positions then, we'll be there or thereabouts.

I totally agree, that team under a stable management and owner would be there or thereabouts but it's all the other shite that's a worry. Teams tend not to do well when everyone above the manager is disinterested, weak, or incompetant
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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4985 on: February 20, 2016, 07:33:08 PM »
I'll post something similar in the other football thread but, I'm over here in that there London and I'm just in from watching Brentford v Derby.   If we hang on to the better players we have and add a couple of steady players in the right positions then, we'll be there or thereabouts.

I totally agree, that team under a stable management and owner would be there or thereabouts but it's all the other shite that's a worry. Teams tend not to do well when the everyone above the manager is disinterested, weak, or incompetant

Although weirdly, our neighbours are there or thereabouts with a complete shambles above them, not a pot to piss in,  and a reasonable manager.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4986 on: February 20, 2016, 07:41:08 PM »
I'll post something similar in the other football thread but, I'm over here in that there London and I'm just in from watching Brentford v Derby.   If we hang on to the better players we have and add a couple of steady players in the right positions then, we'll be there or thereabouts.

I totally agree, that team under a stable management and owner would be there or thereabouts but it's all the other shite that's a worry. Teams tend not to do well when the everyone above the manager is disinterested, weak, or incompetant

Although weirdly, our neighbours are there or thereabouts with a complete shambles above them, not a pot to piss in,  and a reasonable manager.

Agreed, keep Garde, back him to keep the players he wants to and replace 4-5 others and we'll be right up there, the standard of the championship drops off pretty quickly outside 6-7 sides who were recently relegated (Hull, Burnley and Cardiff) or who have been reasonably well backed for a few years (Boro, Derby and Brighton).  Wednesday and Blues are the current anomalies but I suspect both will drop off over the next 2-3 months and I don't see anyone else working their way into it.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2016, 07:51:27 PM by paul_e »

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4987 on: February 20, 2016, 07:42:20 PM »
I'll post something similar in the other football thread but, I'm over here in that there London and I'm just in from watching Brentford v Derby.   If we hang on to the better players we have and add a couple of steady players in the right positions then, we'll be there or thereabouts.

I totally agree, that team under a stable management and owner would be there or thereabouts but it's all the other shite that's a worry. Teams tend not to do well when the everyone above the manager is disinterested, weak, or incompetant


Although weirdly, our neighbours are there or thereabouts with a complete shambles above them, not a pot to piss in,  and a reasonable manager.

Not sure money comes into it that much in the championship but aren't they being run by the Receivers Ernst & Young? Probably a blessed relief from Yeung or Lerner for that matter,

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4988 on: February 20, 2016, 07:42:49 PM »
Just because others have a different view point doesn't mean their not listening to reason.
When I see my manager standing like a book end for 90 minutes, without showing a glimpse of emotion when were getting battered, I may get a tad pissed off.

Yeah, sack Garde and bring in one of those wind-up monkey toys that does backflips. At least he would show some f*ckin' pashun.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4989 on: February 20, 2016, 07:48:24 PM »
Yeah, let's bring Stuart Pearce in, he's really passionate, he means it maaaan.

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« Reply #4990 on: February 20, 2016, 07:50:56 PM »

but lets be honest can you give any good reasons why garde is going to be the man to get us out of the championship?

Based on the rebuilding of the side at Lyon, the type of side he built, what he has done here in very difficult circumstances and very few players to pick from and standing up to the Board and not letting them hide, I think he is just the type of manager we need.

Perhaps you could name somebody that has dealt with similar circumstances and being successful.

Nigel Pearson is always the popular name. He of one promotion from the Championship in his six attempts.

And that one with a budget that dwarfed most other clubs in that league.

Same as people (not on here to be fair) who raved about how brilliant a job Kenny Jackett did in getting Wolves out of League One.  Their budget must have been a thousand times bigger than the likes of Walsall, Peterborough and Brentford.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4991 on: February 20, 2016, 07:54:35 PM »
Just because others have a different view point doesn't mean their not listening to reason.
When I see my manager standing like a book end for 90 minutes, without showing a glimpse of emotion when were getting battered, I may get a tad pissed off.

Yeah, sack Garde and bring in one of those wind-up monkey toys that does backflips. At least he would show some f*ckin' pashun.

It's perfect for a Keegan's comeback

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4992 on: February 20, 2016, 07:57:29 PM »
Garde doesn't inspire me, his style of football or his failure to convey his style to the players doesn't inspire me with confidence. I can take us playing crap but lack of effort is unacceptable. I don't want Pearson or Pearce but i'd feel better with someone with a bit of authority who you'd feel the players would worry about going back into a dressing room after a defeat like Liverpool. Garde comes across as likeable, intelligent and decent. I'm not sure that's what we need in the Championship

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4993 on: February 20, 2016, 08:00:19 PM »
Who then?

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« Reply #4994 on: February 20, 2016, 08:02:10 PM »
My choice would be Howe.  Gettable, knows the division, has a good reputation as a coach and not taking shite from management/players

 


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