Quote from: oswald funkletrumpet on February 20, 2016, 01:12:27 PMQuote from: amfy on February 20, 2016, 12:36:32 PMCan anyone who thinks we've seen no improvement since he took over explain how, even after last weekend's debacle, we are 11th on current form?11th! Given how we ended last season, I would be delighted if that was our actual position, and that is where he has us playing to right now. Sadly, there is too much ground to make up, and the teams around us are also showing improved form so the upturn isn't showing in our league position, but our form is clearly better than the first half of the season.Last week was awful, but it was one game after a reasonable run where there was cause for cautious optimism. A current form table that still places us 11th maybe gives that a bit of context.2 wins in 14, i think a minus 14 gd and still rock bottom but hey we are 11th on current form. i'll try and remember that when we are away at rotherham in februaryWe'll be at Rotherham next season because of stuff that's happened before now. We were losing EVERY game, then we started to draw some, and IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS we have won a couple (not in the last 14) - that is an upturn. I don't see how itv can be argued that it isn't.
Quote from: amfy on February 20, 2016, 12:36:32 PMCan anyone who thinks we've seen no improvement since he took over explain how, even after last weekend's debacle, we are 11th on current form?11th! Given how we ended last season, I would be delighted if that was our actual position, and that is where he has us playing to right now. Sadly, there is too much ground to make up, and the teams around us are also showing improved form so the upturn isn't showing in our league position, but our form is clearly better than the first half of the season.Last week was awful, but it was one game after a reasonable run where there was cause for cautious optimism. A current form table that still places us 11th maybe gives that a bit of context.2 wins in 14, i think a minus 14 gd and still rock bottom but hey we are 11th on current form. i'll try and remember that when we are away at rotherham in february
Can anyone who thinks we've seen no improvement since he took over explain how, even after last weekend's debacle, we are 11th on current form?11th! Given how we ended last season, I would be delighted if that was our actual position, and that is where he has us playing to right now. Sadly, there is too much ground to make up, and the teams around us are also showing improved form so the upturn isn't showing in our league position, but our form is clearly better than the first half of the season.Last week was awful, but it was one game after a reasonable run where there was cause for cautious optimism. A current form table that still places us 11th maybe gives that a bit of context.
Quote from: amfy on February 20, 2016, 01:21:51 PMQuote from: oswald funkletrumpet on February 20, 2016, 01:12:27 PMQuote from: amfy on February 20, 2016, 12:36:32 PMCan anyone who thinks we've seen no improvement since he took over explain how, even after last weekend's debacle, we are 11th on current form?11th! Given how we ended last season, I would be delighted if that was our actual position, and that is where he has us playing to right now. Sadly, there is too much ground to make up, and the teams around us are also showing improved form so the upturn isn't showing in our league position, but our form is clearly better than the first half of the season.Last week was awful, but it was one game after a reasonable run where there was cause for cautious optimism. A current form table that still places us 11th maybe gives that a bit of context.2 wins in 14, i think a minus 14 gd and still rock bottom but hey we are 11th on current form. i'll try and remember that when we are away at rotherham in februaryWe'll be at Rotherham next season because of stuff that's happened before now. We were losing EVERY game, then we started to draw some, and IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS we have won a couple (not in the last 14) - that is an upturn. I don't see how itv can be argued that it isn't.I don't think we need to worry about being at Rotherham next season. They are 5 points from safety and losing again today.
I'll post something similar in the other football thread but, I'm over here in that there London and I'm just in from watching Brentford v Derby. If we hang on to the better players we have and add a couple of steady players in the right positions then, we'll be there or thereabouts.
Quote from: dave shelley on February 20, 2016, 05:32:47 PMI'll post something similar in the other football thread but, I'm over here in that there London and I'm just in from watching Brentford v Derby. If we hang on to the better players we have and add a couple of steady players in the right positions then, we'll be there or thereabouts.I totally agree, that team under a stable management and owner would be there or thereabouts but it's all the other shite that's a worry. Teams tend not to do well when the everyone above the manager is disinterested, weak, or incompetant
Quote from: sickbeggar on February 20, 2016, 07:29:29 PMQuote from: dave shelley on February 20, 2016, 05:32:47 PMI'll post something similar in the other football thread but, I'm over here in that there London and I'm just in from watching Brentford v Derby. If we hang on to the better players we have and add a couple of steady players in the right positions then, we'll be there or thereabouts.I totally agree, that team under a stable management and owner would be there or thereabouts but it's all the other shite that's a worry. Teams tend not to do well when the everyone above the manager is disinterested, weak, or incompetantAlthough weirdly, our neighbours are there or thereabouts with a complete shambles above them, not a pot to piss in, and a reasonable manager.
Just because others have a different view point doesn't mean their not listening to reason.When I see my manager standing like a book end for 90 minutes, without showing a glimpse of emotion when were getting battered, I may get a tad pissed off.
Quote from: old man villa fan on February 19, 2016, 10:11:25 AMQuote from: oswald funkletrumpet on February 19, 2016, 08:15:06 AMbut lets be honest can you give any good reasons why garde is going to be the man to get us out of the championship?Based on the rebuilding of the side at Lyon, the type of side he built, what he has done here in very difficult circumstances and very few players to pick from and standing up to the Board and not letting them hide, I think he is just the type of manager we need.Perhaps you could name somebody that has dealt with similar circumstances and being successful.Nigel Pearson is always the popular name. He of one promotion from the Championship in his six attempts.
Quote from: oswald funkletrumpet on February 19, 2016, 08:15:06 AMbut lets be honest can you give any good reasons why garde is going to be the man to get us out of the championship?Based on the rebuilding of the side at Lyon, the type of side he built, what he has done here in very difficult circumstances and very few players to pick from and standing up to the Board and not letting them hide, I think he is just the type of manager we need.Perhaps you could name somebody that has dealt with similar circumstances and being successful.
but lets be honest can you give any good reasons why garde is going to be the man to get us out of the championship?
Quote from: Hoppo on February 20, 2016, 03:38:18 PMJust because others have a different view point doesn't mean their not listening to reason.When I see my manager standing like a book end for 90 minutes, without showing a glimpse of emotion when were getting battered, I may get a tad pissed off.Yeah, sack Garde and bring in one of those wind-up monkey toys that does backflips. At least he would show some f*ckin' pashun.