Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[Mellin]

It wasn't a jammy goal at all so you can drop that bollocks. And you seem to have a lot more knowledge of Chelsea's run to the cup than ours. Good for them for wining it but don't belittle our achievement in the process.

No point in focusing on our win. It's a Villa board. We all know and appreciate what happened. And it was a bit jammy. He tried to hit it with his foot. It hit his shin. It doesn't really matter. We still won.

If people aren't prepared to give Chelsea credit where it's due that's there perogative, but they were brilliant and I love them and wish I was Mark Stein.

[Gregorys Boy]

It wasn't a jammy goal at all so you can drop that bollocks. And you seem to have a lot more knowledge of Chelsea's run to the cup than ours. Good for them for wining it but don't belittle our achievement in the process.

How the hell did we get onto the European Cup/Champions League in the REMI GARDE THREAD!? This site haha!

Anyway, my defence of our European Cup win is that like any other Cup run your final victory is made up of the effort over the previous rounds.  We were there in the final on merit just like Munich were, but on the day we had a world class goalkeeping performance, and we took our one big chance whereas they spurred a number of good ones.  Simply put we deserved it!

[Ormy Droid]

You might not like Chelsea, but they won the Champions League and deserved it. We won it through a jammy goal off Peter Withe's shin.

There's quite a few similarities from each final, apart from the obvious that Bayern were the opponents on both occasions. They had the majority of the play and created far more chances than Chelsea or Villa did. Both victories were born from solid defensive performances and (particularly in our case) an outstanding goalkeeping display. Both also made the most of the few opportunities they had in the attacking third of the pitch, one from a precise counter attack, one from set piece. The biggest difference though is this, Chelsea won their final on the LOTTERY of a penalty shoot out and you can't get any more 'jammy' than that. Villa won because we scored and they could not. True, there was a bit of luck involved to help us keep a clean sheet, but we didn't win by a lottery you foolish boy!

[Mellin]

Penalty shootouts aren't a lottery. They're about showing nerve and steel at a time when the pressure would be inexplicable. They deserved it.

[four fornicholl]

just had to watch the goal again after all the hooha and I still maintain peter knew exactly what he was doing

[Sexual Ealing]

How was Chelsea's win 'against the odds'? I know the plucky £1 billion pound underdogs played like shit, but really?

[Mellin]

It's all relative. I'd say a man down at the Nou Camp and needing a goal, before even reaching half time, is a pretty decent example of against the odds. As is being 1-0 down in the final at your opposition's ground with a few minutes remaining.

[Chris Smith]

Penalty shootouts aren't a lottery. They're about showing nerve and steel at a time when the pressure would be inexplicable. They deserved it.

In my view UEFA were taking the piss forcing a club of Chelsea's wealth stature to go through the ignominy of a penalty shoot out, imagine if one of their rich star players had slipped over when taking one.

[KevinGage]

If you mean Chelsea deserved it because of all the filthy lucre Abramovich had poured in, then yes, they absolutely deserved to fluke a penalty shoot-out after having their arses handed to them for 120-odd minutes.

[Ormy Droid]

Penalty shootouts aren't a lottery. They're about showing nerve and steel at a time when the pressure would be inexplicable. They deserved it.

Yes they are 

[Mellin]

Penalty shootouts aren't a lottery. They're about showing nerve and steel at a time when the pressure would be inexplicable. They deserved it.

Yes they are 

They're not. It's another one of football's lazy clichés. It takes skill to score a penalty, even more so with the pressure ramped up to 11. Definitely not a lottery.

[KevinGage]

Exactly.  Case in point:  JT Moscow.

[Pete3206]

To be fair, how are penalty shoot outs a lottery? A lottery is a game of chance, where the individual has no influence on the outcome. If shoot outs are a lottery, then the Germans are extremely lucky.
 

[Yossarian]

On another hunch here but what's your opinion on Syria Mellin?

[Gregorys Boy]

Penalty shootouts aren't a lottery. They're about showing nerve and steel at a time when the pressure would be inexplicable. They deserved it.

Yes they are 

They're not. It's another one of football's lazy clichés. It takes skill to score a penalty, even more so with the pressure ramped up to 11. Definitely not a lottery.

Its an a mixture of the two I think.  Of course if you keep your nerve and have a really good goalkeeper then that goes a long way.  But unless you're totally spot on with every kick then a shoot out which goes the distance or beyond will require a bit of luck to win it.  NOW CAN WE TALK ABOUT REMI GARDE PLEASE!!! ARE YOU MODS ON YOUR HOLIDAYS?