Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[four fornicholl]

The reality is that the league table and results don't lie - we have not improved since he arrived

You're right, results don't lie.

Sherwood sacked on Oct 25th: P10 W1 D1 L8 = 4 points = 0.4 points per match

Garde's regime: P12 W1 D6 L5 = 9 points = 0.75 points per match

So, having said yourself that results don't lie, I take it you accept he has improved us given the stats above?

No.

We carry no goal threat whatsoever.  We need to score goals and win games, but nobody at the club seems to doing anything about it.

Garde is clearly a decent guy, but anyone saying we've improved since he arrived is deluded IMO.

You said results don't lie, he hasn't improved us. Thats your opinion.

I've just pointed out that the results *have* improved - that's not an opinion, that is a mathematical fact.

But still you're not having it?

Do you stop and think about any of this stuff before you post it?

and that is tantamount to poster baiting

How is it?

It's not like we don't have enough things to worry about but if someone says "results don't lie" and then changes his tune when shown that the results actually have improved, then they can expect to be picked up on it.

implying he doesn't think?

[pauliewalnuts]

LTA, you asked for stats and you got it. You're in denial. You've also just pointed out we have no goal threat and despite that our points per game has improved. Nobody is high fiving each other but there has been undeniable improvement. The only person that doesn't want to accept it is you it appears.

He has a point about the goal threat but to say we haven't improved is just nonsense.

that's just stating the obvious though Clamps. We've actually managed to improve despite not having any goal threat because he's come in and really tightened us up at the back. I just wish we were 6 or 7 points better off because we'd have landed the striker we need by now. Being so far behind in points to safety has screwed everything up this transfer window. And we all know if it passes without us getting a new forward in the combination of Kozak, Ayew, Sinclair isn't going to save us. And with Gestede hurt, it's even more bleak. But we've improved overall and to deny it is ludicrous.

A one eyed man on a galloping horse could look at those stats and see that we have basically turned a few defeats into draws. That is an improvement.

[aj2k77]

Either ratio would be low enough to get you relegated over the course of a season. The only thing being Remi has signed none of the players and didn't create the situation he's currently in. The results haven't been great though.

[pauliewalnuts]

The reality is that the league table and results don't lie - we have not improved since he arrived

You're right, results don't lie.

Sherwood sacked on Oct 25th: P10 W1 D1 L8 = 4 points = 0.4 points per match

Garde's regime: P12 W1 D6 L5 = 9 points = 0.75 points per match

So, having said yourself that results don't lie, I take it you accept he has improved us given the stats above?

No.

We carry no goal threat whatsoever.  We need to score goals and win games, but nobody at the club seems to doing anything about it.

Garde is clearly a decent guy, but anyone saying we've improved since he arrived is deluded IMO.

You said results don't lie, he hasn't improved us. Thats your opinion.

I've just pointed out that the results *have* improved - that's not an opinion, that is a mathematical fact.

But still you're not having it?

Do you stop and think about any of this stuff before you post it?

and that is tantamount to poster baiting

How is it?

It's not like we don't have enough things to worry about but if someone says "results don't lie" and then changes his tune when shown that the results actually have improved, then they can expect to be picked up on it.

implying he doesn't think?

Well he doesn't think about whether something mathematically checkable is correct before posting it, that's pretty clear 

And then goes on to still reject it despite having it explained numerically.

[PeterWithesShin]

For me it's simple, there is no doubt we have improved since he arrived.

What is open to debate is whether posters think he has improved us enough and if he is the man to take us back up next season assuming we do drop.

[LeeB]

How about saying posters instead of deadheads which isn't acceptable.

Yes, sorry for that.

[PeterWithesShin]

How about saying posters instead of deadheads which isn't acceptable.

Yes, sorry for that.

Thanks Lee.

[LeeB]

How about saying posters instead of deadheads which isn't acceptable.

Yes, sorry for that.

Thanks Lee.

Shouldn't post when the kids are driving me mad, that tends to come out in my prose.

[old man villa fan]

Black has experience in coaching and can speak French.

Yes, yes but what about English?

Did they overlook you for the job?

[PaulWinch again]

The reality is that the league table and results don't lie - we have not improved since he arrived

You're right, results don't lie.

Sherwood sacked on Oct 25th: P10 W1 D1 L8 = 4 points = 0.4 points per match

Garde's regime: P12 W1 D6 L5 = 9 points = 0.75 points per match

So, having said yourself that results don't lie, I take it you accept he has improved us given the stats above?

No.

We carry no goal threat whatsoever.  We need to score goals and win games, but nobody at the club seems to doing anything about it.

Garde is clearly a decent guy, but anyone saying we've improved since he arrived is deluded IMO.

Are you on a wind up?

Which is what I thought, and said, the other day. It is a statistical fact that we have improved since Garde arrived. We don't carry enough goal threat, but he's managed to get us keeping clean sheets and that gives us a chance. I'm confident in time, most likely in the Championship, and when he gets some players in we'll start to become more of a threat.

[SheffieldVillain]

Same boring posters bullying someone with a different view point..

Where? Point out one example of bullying, insult or abuse, rather than disagreeing with the point the poster has made?

The only person on this thread who has decided to start throwing insults and accusations around without contributing a jot to the discussion is you.

[PaulWinch again]

Same boring posters bullying someone with a different view point..

Not really, to catergorically state that Garde hasn't improved us is factually wrong. Now if he'd stated that we don't carry enough threat in isolation then that's a different matter. I personally think he'll get us firing in time, but he's resolved to stop us haemorrhaging goals first. But that's my opinion and I'm happy to debate that. It's stating something that flies completely in the face of actual factual evidence in order to try and add strength to his opinion that I take issue with.

[four fornicholl]

The reality is that the league table and results don't lie - we have not improved since he arrived

You're right, results don't lie.

Sherwood sacked on Oct 25th: P10 W1 D1 L8 = 4 points = 0.4 points per match

Garde's regime: P12 W1 D6 L5 = 9 points = 0.75 points per match

So, having said yourself that results don't lie, I take it you accept he has improved us given the stats above?

premier league games won

tim = 3 points
remi =3 points

that's a draw

fkn not good enough whichever way you look at it

please lets get a forward who might just give us a glimmer of hope

[ciggiesnbeer]

Were we bottom of the league when Sherwood got axed? Its all a blur. If not then you could argue Garde made us worse in that regard.

Otherwise its tough to see where he has not improved us. Although not enough points wise, the improvement is there I think.

[PaulWinch again]

The reality is that the league table and results don't lie - we have not improved since he arrived

You're right, results don't lie.

Sherwood sacked on Oct 25th: P10 W1 D1 L8 = 4 points = 0.4 points per match

Garde's regime: P12 W1 D6 L5 = 9 points = 0.75 points per match

So, having said yourself that results don't lie, I take it you accept he has improved us given the stats above?

premier league games won

tim = 3 points
remi =3 points

that's a draw

fkn not good enough whichever way you look at it

please lets get a forward who might just give us a glimmer of hope

So draws don't count as points that Garde has got the team to earn? Again your dismissing the statistical evidence. Garde has performed better than Sherwood this season, that is an undeniable, or should be, fact. Now it's probably not going to be enough to save us, but I wouldn't lay much blame at Garde's door for that.