Quote from: PaulWinch again on January 10, 2016, 10:21:00 AMI like Remi and the malaise at this club goes way deeper, I want him to remain in charge.I definitely do but he needs backing from us fans as well as the club. He's only human and doesn't need to stay.
I like Remi and the malaise at this club goes way deeper, I want him to remain in charge.
Ten games without a win at a club that was struggling to even draw games before he arrived? If he'd just taken over from LVG at man utd you'd have a point Kuwait, but the context here is very different. This is a very poor team that is mentally shot. Garde needs months to fix it.
Quote from: brian green on January 10, 2016, 12:07:44 PMYes you are correct as always DW. Stan went in February 58 Joe came in December of 58. My meetings with Joe were during his time at Coventry and the only topics I recall with clarity are Stan Crowther and Dennis Mortimer. I expect the phrase "I would not have let him go" came up and time has blurred my memory.Mercer resigned as Sheffield United manager but had to then apply in writing for the Villa job. They did things differently in 1958.
Yes you are correct as always DW. Stan went in February 58 Joe came in December of 58. My meetings with Joe were during his time at Coventry and the only topics I recall with clarity are Stan Crowther and Dennis Mortimer. I expect the phrase "I would not have let him go" came up and time has blurred my memory.
Not sure if this should have been in this thread or the Randy Lerner one but hopefully relevant either way.The manager at Aston Villa is not the problem and hasn't been for a long time now. Aston Villa is to us as supporters a Football Club but to the owner it is simply a business and this is where the issues lie as this business is being run very badly. In any badly run business it is very unlikely that things can change unless the philosophy at the very top changes so unless Lerner either sells the club or publicly announces a clear revised plan for the future of the business I can't see much improving and actually expect that things will get a whole lot worse.The business world, whilst always changing and evolving, has changed dramatically over the past ten years but one thing that generally remains constant is that successful businesses have a clear model and stated plan, currently Aston Villa have neither.In the industry where I work traditional market leading companies have been overtaken during this time by upcoming, dynamic companies that have embraced modern practices. I have seen some very good and capable people in our industry take decent positions in some of these traditional companies only to find out that the business model makes it impossible to operate. The tradition of these companies will mean that for a period of time they will remain attractive to someone but the quality of that person gets weaker every time there is a change. Aston Villa are an almost exact parallel of many of the traditional market leaders in my industry.In my role if I had to recruit at 20% below the going rate for a decent employee I would be gambling almost every time I set on a new member of staff. Whilst not knowing the inside and outsides of Villa's wage structure it is clear to me that the club has not shopped in the upper priced areas of the market for some time now. Players looking at Aston Villa will base any decision on joining us on what they see today, not what the Football Club of old achieved.We recruit sales people from our competitors, if you like a similar system to a transfer system in football. I am constantly amazed by the amount of people who at interview tell me how little support or direction they receive from their current employer and how disaffected they have become. As a business we make sure that we do what we say, if we didn't I would expect our employees to be unhappy and ultimately would expect their performance levels to drop. If some of our employees had uprooted their families and moved to new countries to join us I would like to think that we would have been true to everything we offered them when they were thinking of joining. The salary becomes irrelevant, if you are unhappy at work the chances are you will perform badly. All the summer signings joined based on a plan that involved Tim Sherwood, they must have been happy with what they were told at the time so for that to change so quickly would most likely create a problem. I don't know if Remi Garde is any good yet, in my opinion he hasn't had chance to prove it one way or another. I would actually say the same about Tim Sherwood/Alex McLeish as neither were given long enough to actually prove me right or wrong. Lambert ended up staying long enough to tell me that he believed in the plan from the top which, in my opinion, makes him responsible (I would leave a job at that level if I felt my credibility was suffering due to my employers incompetence). To be fair to Sherwood, if he was good enough to be given a four year contract then he should have been good enough to recruit who he wanted. If the current squad of players don't buy into the top down plan a manager who does will appear to lack credibility which is where I feel this squad currently sits.So for me changing Remi Garde won't make any great difference unless the whole plan for the business changes, then again neither will keeping him. The business needs a business plan and then needs to put in place a recruitment policy that is based around the plan and that everyone involved can understand and measure, that way the success or failure of any individual within the plan can be fairly judged. To enable supporters to make a clear decision on whether they support the plan the plan needs to be visible.I blame Randy Lerner, ultimately he is the person who can change things and he has proved for a long time now that he doesn't have a plan for the club. I would not expect to have many applicants for job vacancies if my MD was trying to sell the business and if our results had declined steadily over a five year period. Aston Villa has gone from having a squad of good/decent players with a plan (MON) to having a squad of average/poor players with no plan. The lack of a plan is a bigger problem than the quality of the players.For the record I am a season ticket holder/away scheme member of many years standing who will not be renewing until Mr. Lerner either sells the business or gives me a reason to do so.
Anti football here we come.
Strange. Are they shorter than when closed?
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