Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[olaftab]

And I dont see any players coming in to help our cause this season, we're not being linked with anyone that I can see.

Players come for money not cause.

[Meanwood Villa]

Using things like the nonselection of kozak to justify getting rid of Garde after 10 games is through the looking glass batshit crazy.

I don't want him gone, but I don't think those that do are hanging there hat just on that to be fair

Fair point I'm exaggerating. But I just can't understand making a judgment on Garde this soon when he's come in when the club is in such a bizarro state. Is there a squad as shambolic in world football as ours? They're crap, unfit, desperately devoid of confidence, mostly want to be elsewhere, apparently can't follow basic tactical instructions and possibly all hate each other. If Garde was the best manager on earth it would take more than 10 games to sort this shit out.

A win would be nice though. I really don't think it's too much to ask.

[Trinitymiddle]

And I dont see any players coming in to help our cause this season, we're not being linked with anyone that I can see.

Players come for money not cause.

I wasn't suggesting a player would come because he wanted to help "save" the Villa. It's a figure of speech.

[Trinitymiddle]

Pearson would have been offering our fans out for a fight today.

Pearson would probably have won the game.

[pbavfckuwait]

We are all aware of how desperate we are and where we all believe we are going to end up come the end of the season, so this is where I am annoyed at Garde, he has stated that the players he picks are not following instructions, we can see some of them, again who he picks nearly every week have a problem with the basics of the game of football, so do not play them, tell us the supporters what we already know and play the kids, they would get the backing of the support and so would he for having some balls, to never put a villa shirt on the likes of Gestede, Richardson, Bacuna, Guzan, Westwood, Lescott, the shit stirrer that I think is the main offender of the split in the dressing room Richards, would elevate him straight away, I fear he does not have the guts for this and we are falling into another Lambert situation, where we are happy to have anyone as long as it is not tactic Tim.
Grow a pair Remi but I will not hold my breathe waiting for it to happen.

[Le Lapin]

Remi has had enough time to have given the back four some structure.  How can other clubs have defences that are at least reasonably competent.  Our guys are still making the same mistakes,  the same lapses of concentration,  the same lack of positioning that they have been doing since the start of the season.  There is a lot wrong with our team, and I don't envy Remi's task.  But at least get our defence working as a unit, how fcukin hard is that to do after the time he's been in charge to, to teach professional defenders to defend. The players aren't that bad. They need structure and instruction.  If this is still beyond Remi and his team,  then the current manager and coaches are not fit for purpose.

[Dave]

Pearson would have been offering our fans out for a fight today.

Pearson would probably have won the game.

Why's that then? Last year his Leicester side lost in the other cup at home to Shrewsbury.

[brian green]

Agree with pretty much all of that Kuwait but I do believe Garde's conduct and comments about the players at Wycombe show clearly that he is no coward. I suspect that he has had the same lack of good support and advice from those around him that blighted Lerner's early years.  He has trusted the opinions of those who are supposed to know the players and is now finding that his backroom staff are as bad as his players.

I hope he starts to get some blood on the dressing room floor and be his own man.  Play the untried young players.  Get the crowd back behind the players.  It worked for Joe Mercer.  Let's face it, we have nothing to lose.

[OzVilla]

Problem is such a decision would not be Garde's alone, he'd need the green light from above, if we just dropped all of the players that we know are wasters;

1) We'd need to suddenly promote a heap of young reserve/youth team players into PL football, this could damage their confidence/careers. We've seen it happen enough ourselves over the last few years so we should have learned our lesson by now.

2) We'd devalue practically to zero those players that we ostracize from the team by outing them as shite and a bad influence on the side. This would make them very hard to move on and this sort of treatment of 'professionals' gives the club a bad name amongst other players out there.  I presume we actually do want to move these fuckers on at some stage. Reduces the value of the Club for sale.

3) It'd mean the hierarchy admitting in the most public of terms that they've made a total balls up of the club. Relegation is one thing, relegation whilst sacking 8-9 first team squad members is humiliating to the people who oversee the club, they'll never sanction it.

4) To take such drastic action you've actually got to be that bothered about our decline in the first place.  A lot of shit would come your way, does Lerner really need it.

I've no time for much of our current squad but we need clear heads and realism to get us through this not knee jerk emotional decisions.

[LeeB]

The very least I expected when he took over was him, after apparently watching all our games so far on DVD to immediately identify the players who just cant cut it. The obvious ones, it's not difficult, the bloke who barely moves, the midfielder who can't kick a ball, the smirking bloke who no one knows what he does. But he just hasn't. He doesn't display anything suggesting he's learnt anything so far.

You telling me an under 21 isn't as good as Richardson? If he isn't he shouldn't be at the club. Lyden or Gardner isn't as good as the bloke who continually displays an inability to kick a football? Bollocks.

He's just done an utterly rubbish job so far.

If he only played players who were good enough, we'd have to join the power league.

[brian green]

Respect your points Oz but the nettle has to be grasped. 

When Joe Mercer used all his considerable clout in the game to institute his "Mercer's Minnows" policy, he faced the same sort of opposition but he turned the team around and took unknown young Villa players like Alan Deakin, Mike Tindall, John Sleeuwenhoek to international recognition plus preparing the ground for the likes of Harry Burrows and Stan Crowther (released to help Man U rebuild post Munich).  Blooding young players en masse is nothing new and was, at the time very uplifting.

[peter w]

Different times and different wages and contract clauses though Brian. Plus, whose to say the kids are either ready or indeed, any good?

[brian green]

Yes if course point taken Peter but my view is that the basics are the same.

Coincidentally, as you yourself may recall, a great deal of the bile and venom heaped on Joe Mercer was because he was a cockney and an Arsenal man. Plus ca change and all that.

[Trinitymiddle]

Pearson would have been offering our fans out for a fight today.

Pearson would probably have won the game.

Why's that then? Last year his Leicester side lost in the other cup at home to Shrewsbury.

What on earth has that game got to do with the game yesterday??

[Fin Feds Dad]

Problem is such a decision would not be Garde's alone, he'd need the green light from above, if we just dropped all of the players that we know are wasters;

1) We'd need to suddenly promote a heap of young reserve/youth team players into PL football, this could damage their confidence/careers. We've seen it happen enough ourselves over the last few years so we should have learned our lesson by now.

2) We'd devalue practically to zero those players that we ostracize from the team by outing them as shite and a bad influence on the side. This would make them very hard to move on and this sort of treatment of 'professionals' gives the club a bad name amongst other players out there.  I presume we actually do want to move these fuckers on at some stage. Reduces the value of the Club for sale.

3) It'd mean the hierarchy admitting in the most public of terms that they've made a total balls up of the club. Relegation is one thing, relegation whilst sacking 8-9 first team squad members is humiliating to the people who oversee the club, they'll never sanction it.

4) To take such drastic action you've actually got to be that bothered about our decline in the first place.  A lot of shit would come your way, does Lerner really need it.

I've no time for much of our current squad but we need clear heads and realism to get us through this not knee jerk emotional decisions.

David James made a comment in the pre match build up when asked about villas transfer window targets and budget. He said villa may be better using funds available to pay up the contracts of a player / players who are a cancer within the club rather than buying new player/ players.

I would imagine he has heard about the villa dressing room and the problems some players are causing.

Those players need to be got rid of - with a statement of explanation - and if that means playing some of the kids until the end of the season then so be it.

By playing the kids , I think a good portion of the crowd will stay with the team - by continually playing the current players , things will get more and more toxic .