Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[Whiney MacWhineface]

Respect your points Oz but the nettle has to be grasped. 

When Joe Mercer used all his considerable clout in the game to institute his "Mercer's Minnows" policy, he faced the same sort of opposition but he turned the team around and took unknown young Villa players like Alan Deakin, Mike Tindall, John Sleeuwenhoek to international recognition plus preparing the ground for the likes of Harry Burrows and Stan Crowther (released to help Man U rebuild post Munich).  Blooding young players en masse is nothing new and was, at the time very uplifting.

Mercer Minors. Crowther had played in the Cup Final in 57 and Mercer sold him just over a month after he took Villa over in December (stone cold bottom). Apart from that the comparison's apt. Villa treated Mercer badly in the end I thought.

[peter w]

I don't like the idea or the thought of losing 6-0 every week.

[brian green]

Yes Woofles but the significant point if I may make it is that Joe did not want to sell Stan Crowther.  I met Joe several times and he told me so.  It was all part of the outpouring of sympathy for Manchester United and that the Football League should rally round them.  There were plenty, myself included for voicing the opinion that the same generosity would not have been extended to an equally damaged but less high media profile club.

[Dave]

Pearson would have been offering our fans out for a fight today.

Pearson would probably have won the game.

Why's that then? Last year his Leicester side lost in the other cup at home to Shrewsbury.

What on earth has that game got to do with the game yesterday??

As much as suggesting that Pearson being in charge would magically make us start winning matches when he has spent nearly a decade being a pretty shit football manager.

[passport1]

Respect your points Oz but the nettle has to be grasped. 

When Joe Mercer used all his considerable clout in the game to institute his "Mercer's Minnows" policy, he faced the same sort of opposition but he turned the team around and took unknown young Villa players like Alan Deakin, Mike Tindall, John Sleeuwenhoek to international recognition plus preparing the ground for the likes of Harry Burrows and Stan Crowther (released to help Man U rebuild post Munich).  Blooding young players en masse is nothing new and was, at the time very uplifting.

Mercer Minors. Crowther had played in the Cup Final in 57 and Mercer sold him just over a month after he took Villa over in December (stone cold bottom). Apart from that the comparison's apt. Villa treated Mercer badly in the end I thought.

My father has always belived that Villa broke Mercer so much so that he had serious health problems following his experiences at the club.

[ROBBO]

My memory may deceive me but I always believed it was a requirement of the FA that each club offered up a first team player and Crowther was ours, I don't remember it as an option.

[Ron Manager]

There are too many people at Villa Park who have too much power and are stopping whatever manager is in place doing what he thinks is the right thing to do.

If Remi Garde resigns the next manager will have exactly the same problems. Its a vicious circle. This may change if Mr Lerner sells the club but be honest it doesn't look very likely does it?.

I like Remi Garde. I think he should resign to retain his sanity.

[dave.woodhall]

My memory may deceive me but I always believed it was a requirement of the FA that each club offered up a first team player and Crowther was ours, I don't remember it as an option.

It wasn't an order but there was a lot of pressure placed on clubs. Bob Lord was particularly vociferous against.

[pbavfckuwait]

Again Oz respect your response, but the club can be doing itself no favors what so ever how it is being perceived now, as to being beat heavily, again the crowd will stick with the team if it sees it trying, we want effort that's not alot and we are not getting it.

If Garde needs permission from those above as to who he has in his match day squad and who he does not, I suggest if he has any principles he tells Fox where to stick the job, but I do have a feeling you are very close to the mark with him not being allowed to do what I suggested, which again shows we have picked a man that will make very little waves and as for football tactics and improving the squad the not making waves is more important , this being the main reason for getting rid of Tactic Tim, they knew he would not keep his mouth shut.

[Ron Manager]

My memory may deceive me but I always believed it was a requirement of the FA that each club offered up a first team player and Crowther was ours, I don't remember it as an option.

I think Man Utd made it very plain they wanted Stan. He was our best player in the Cup Final but if he had been given the choice he would have stayed where he
was happy. He said so many times later in life. Hated it up there.

[villasjf]

There are too many people at Villa Park who have too much power and are stopping whatever manager is in place doing what he thinks is the right thing to do.

If Remi Garde resigns the next manager will have exactly the same problems. Its a vicious circle. This may change if Mr Lerner sells the club but be honest it doesn't look very likely does it?.

I like Remi Garde. I think he should resign to retain his sanity.

I think he should go too, this club destroys managers at the moment puts 10 to 20 years on them in 12 months. look at Lambert now he looks vibrant again. This job was too big for Remi. why did he leave his last club?

[brian green]

Thank you Ron M.  He hated them mocking his accent among other things.

[mr underhill]

The club have made a  series of recruitment errors in recent years both on playing and non playing staff. That won't change one iota until the club is sold and might not even then, if it gets into the hands of the wrong people (Blackburn springs to mind). And to think, only a few years ago, people were lauding Lerner as a model owner.

[dave.woodhall]

Yes Woofles but the significant point if I may make it is that Joe did not want to sell Stan Crowther.  I met Joe several times and he told me so.  It was all part of the outpouring of sympathy for Manchester United and that the Football League should rally round them.  There were plenty, myself included for voicing the opinion that the same generosity would not have been extended to an equally damaged but less high media profile club.

Stan Crowther had been sold before Joe Mercer was appointed.

[Chris Harte]

I'm hearing there have been rumours overnight that Remi Garde is about to jack it all in. My suspicion is that this won't happen.