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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1680 on: December 21, 2015, 05:45:52 PM »
Why we would be favourites when there are likely to be two better teams also relegated?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1681 on: December 21, 2015, 05:46:24 PM »
Clumsily worded maybe, but the sentiment seems clear enough to me.  I assume he means he's the right man at the wrong time. 

In other words, he's the type of manager who could build something in the long term, but we may have to accept relegation in the meantime. 

As opposed to the other option of a Pullis type manager who we assume would be better at avoiding relegation but isn't going to build an attractive, competitive team for the future in the process.

So if you faith in him let him do his job, even if it includes relegation. We need to stop trying the quick fix approach and change the club root and branch in numerous areas. I think that's what Fox was saying recently and it is what Garde needs to be allowed to do.

Garde might not keep us up, but I would rather he was in charge taking a structured long term approach than have someone keep us up only to keep struggling year after year. I'm tired of this and I dare say the employees of the club are as are the players. It shows in some of them and they need to be moved on.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1682 on: December 21, 2015, 05:48:33 PM »
How can you faith in someone long term that you want fired today? You have to laugh.

Totally misunderstood my post. Not surprised coming from you ::)

I'll probably receive criticism for this because "OMG you're writing him off after 6 games!!!!11 give him the chair!!!!!", but I'd be tempted to sack him and appoint someone who wants to have a go. The line up and subsequent non-substitutions yesterday were a disgrace, would we have made any changes had De Jong scored, I wonder?

A bit negative, so I want to point out that I like Garde and have faith in him long term, but I'm just so pissed off that we seem to be accepting relegation. Why can't we start throwing some punches? We might end up getting knocked out, but it's worth losing on points with a bit of pride.

Maybe I'm overreacting a bit. Like I said, I like the guy, but drawing games isn't gonna keep us up :(

He has to build a base of confidence that will survive losing a couple of games. He may not have enough time to save us, but it's the only way we can potentially win enough games to stay up. Sacking him would be the worst possible decision they could make.

I get the whole confidence thing, but if we can't have a go at a shit team like Newcastle, who can we have a go at?

Well I'm another one that can't reconcile those 2 statements.

Tim Sherwood always seemed happy to "have a go".

I wonder what he's up to?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1683 on: December 21, 2015, 05:55:45 PM »
Clumsily worded maybe, but the sentiment seems clear enough to me.  I assume he means he's the right man at the wrong time. 

In other words, he's the type of manager who could build something in the long term, but we may have to accept relegation in the meantime. 

As opposed to the other option of a Pullis type manager who we assume would be better at avoiding relegation but isn't going to build an attractive, competitive team for the future in the process.

So if you faith in him let him do his job, even if it includes relegation. We need to stop trying the quick fix approach and change the club root and branch in numerous areas. I think that's what Fox was saying recently and it is what Garde needs to be allowed to do.

Garde might not keep us up, but I would rather he was in charge taking a structured long term approach than have someone keep us up only to keep struggling year after year. I'm tired of this and I dare say the employees of the club are as are the players. It shows in some of them and they need to be moved on.

I was only trying to interpret another poster's comments - rather than express an opinion.

Having said that I genuinely think we're/Garde is missing a trick.  Essentially we don't have the players for type of game he's trying to play.   Teams like Watford and Bournemouth are showing what's possible with players who are somewhat limited, but the style of play is adapted to their strengths, ie sit back and then counter with pace and physicality - something I think Ayew, Traore, Gestede and even Gabby and Kozak could do.

It doesn't have to be that continuity and structure = relegation.
« Last Edit: December 21, 2015, 05:57:49 PM by oldhill_avfc »

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1684 on: December 21, 2015, 05:56:52 PM »
There's only 2 BoskoDjembaSalifous-
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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1685 on: December 21, 2015, 06:01:03 PM »
Oh well, have it your way then - sit back and watch us sleep walk out of the division

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1686 on: December 21, 2015, 06:12:57 PM »
I would back our Reserves to get promoted out of the Championship. If Rudy Gestede can get 13 goals in a season, Libor would get twice that number.

22 he got for Blackburn last season in total.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1687 on: December 22, 2015, 01:36:46 PM »
Remi is optimistic if he reckons we're going to get Gabby and N'Zogbia out the door in Jan, but I'm glad he's identified those who are just a drain on resources and the squad as a whole.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1688 on: December 22, 2015, 01:43:49 PM »
Sorry Dave I stand corrected. I read the number 13 somewhere, possibly his number of headed goals.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1689 on: December 22, 2015, 02:09:26 PM »
Sorry Dave I stand corrected. I read the number 13 somewhere, possibly his number of headed goals.

That sounds pretty likely.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1690 on: December 22, 2015, 02:19:36 PM »
On the plus side Sherwood got us 4 points from 33 possible which is a 12% return.
Remi has got us 3 from a possible 18 which is a 17% return. Therefore we are improving..and I'm clutching.
I'd already told my mates last week that the next game we lose will be Stoke away on Feb 27th....so we are all good on that as well....:-)

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1691 on: December 22, 2015, 02:25:00 PM »
Why we would be favourites when there are likely to be two better teams also relegated?
All depends on how we deal with it and how prepared we are financially, technically, fitness level and most important mentally.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1692 on: December 22, 2015, 03:24:15 PM »
On the plus side Sherwood got us 4 points from 33 possible which is a 12% return.
Remi has got us 3 from a possible 18 which is a 17% return. Therefore we are improving..and I'm clutching.
I'd already told my mates last week that the next game we lose will be Stoke away on Feb 27th....so we are all good on that as well....:-)


Also in those 6 games Remi has been in charge for we've played Citeh, Arsenal, Everton, Southampton. They are not easy games.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1693 on: December 22, 2015, 03:28:48 PM »
On the plus side Sherwood got us 4 points from 33 possible which is a 12% return.
Remi has got us 3 from a possible 18 which is a 17% return. Therefore we are improving..and I'm clutching.
I'd already told my mates last week that the next game we lose will be Stoke away on Feb 27th....so we are all good on that as well....:-)


Also in those 6 games Remi has been in charge for we've played Citeh, Arsenal, Everton, Southampton. They are not easy games.

Indeed...plus Watford are flying and Barcodes just turned over Liverpool and Spurs...hope springs eternal.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #1694 on: December 22, 2015, 03:29:00 PM »
Remi says we need 10 more wins but doesn't appear to be taking draws into his points tallying. What's the lowest number of wins we've survived with - 9 under McLeiah?

 


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