Clumsily worded maybe, but the sentiment seems clear enough to me. I assume he means he's the right man at the wrong time. In other words, he's the type of manager who could build something in the long term, but we may have to accept relegation in the meantime. As opposed to the other option of a Pullis type manager who we assume would be better at avoiding relegation but isn't going to build an attractive, competitive team for the future in the process.
Quote from: BoskoDjembaSalifou on December 21, 2015, 02:13:54 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on December 21, 2015, 12:30:45 AMHow can you faith in someone long term that you want fired today? You have to laugh.Totally misunderstood my post. Not surprised coming from you Quote from: PaulWinch again on December 21, 2015, 10:41:56 AMQuote from: BoskoDjembaSalifou on December 21, 2015, 12:20:49 AMI'll probably receive criticism for this because "OMG you're writing him off after 6 games!!!!11 give him the chair!!!!!", but I'd be tempted to sack him and appoint someone who wants to have a go. The line up and subsequent non-substitutions yesterday were a disgrace, would we have made any changes had De Jong scored, I wonder?A bit negative, so I want to point out that I like Garde and have faith in him long term, but I'm just so pissed off that we seem to be accepting relegation. Why can't we start throwing some punches? We might end up getting knocked out, but it's worth losing on points with a bit of pride.Maybe I'm overreacting a bit. Like I said, I like the guy, but drawing games isn't gonna keep us up He has to build a base of confidence that will survive losing a couple of games. He may not have enough time to save us, but it's the only way we can potentially win enough games to stay up. Sacking him would be the worst possible decision they could make.I get the whole confidence thing, but if we can't have a go at a shit team like Newcastle, who can we have a go at?Well I'm another one that can't reconcile those 2 statements.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on December 21, 2015, 12:30:45 AMHow can you faith in someone long term that you want fired today? You have to laugh.Totally misunderstood my post. Not surprised coming from you Quote from: PaulWinch again on December 21, 2015, 10:41:56 AMQuote from: BoskoDjembaSalifou on December 21, 2015, 12:20:49 AMI'll probably receive criticism for this because "OMG you're writing him off after 6 games!!!!11 give him the chair!!!!!", but I'd be tempted to sack him and appoint someone who wants to have a go. The line up and subsequent non-substitutions yesterday were a disgrace, would we have made any changes had De Jong scored, I wonder?A bit negative, so I want to point out that I like Garde and have faith in him long term, but I'm just so pissed off that we seem to be accepting relegation. Why can't we start throwing some punches? We might end up getting knocked out, but it's worth losing on points with a bit of pride.Maybe I'm overreacting a bit. Like I said, I like the guy, but drawing games isn't gonna keep us up He has to build a base of confidence that will survive losing a couple of games. He may not have enough time to save us, but it's the only way we can potentially win enough games to stay up. Sacking him would be the worst possible decision they could make.I get the whole confidence thing, but if we can't have a go at a shit team like Newcastle, who can we have a go at?
How can you faith in someone long term that you want fired today? You have to laugh.
Quote from: BoskoDjembaSalifou on December 21, 2015, 12:20:49 AMI'll probably receive criticism for this because "OMG you're writing him off after 6 games!!!!11 give him the chair!!!!!", but I'd be tempted to sack him and appoint someone who wants to have a go. The line up and subsequent non-substitutions yesterday were a disgrace, would we have made any changes had De Jong scored, I wonder?A bit negative, so I want to point out that I like Garde and have faith in him long term, but I'm just so pissed off that we seem to be accepting relegation. Why can't we start throwing some punches? We might end up getting knocked out, but it's worth losing on points with a bit of pride.Maybe I'm overreacting a bit. Like I said, I like the guy, but drawing games isn't gonna keep us up He has to build a base of confidence that will survive losing a couple of games. He may not have enough time to save us, but it's the only way we can potentially win enough games to stay up. Sacking him would be the worst possible decision they could make.
I'll probably receive criticism for this because "OMG you're writing him off after 6 games!!!!11 give him the chair!!!!!", but I'd be tempted to sack him and appoint someone who wants to have a go. The line up and subsequent non-substitutions yesterday were a disgrace, would we have made any changes had De Jong scored, I wonder?A bit negative, so I want to point out that I like Garde and have faith in him long term, but I'm just so pissed off that we seem to be accepting relegation. Why can't we start throwing some punches? We might end up getting knocked out, but it's worth losing on points with a bit of pride.Maybe I'm overreacting a bit. Like I said, I like the guy, but drawing games isn't gonna keep us up
Quote from: oldhill_avfc on December 21, 2015, 05:38:07 PMClumsily worded maybe, but the sentiment seems clear enough to me. I assume he means he's the right man at the wrong time. In other words, he's the type of manager who could build something in the long term, but we may have to accept relegation in the meantime. As opposed to the other option of a Pullis type manager who we assume would be better at avoiding relegation but isn't going to build an attractive, competitive team for the future in the process.So if you faith in him let him do his job, even if it includes relegation. We need to stop trying the quick fix approach and change the club root and branch in numerous areas. I think that's what Fox was saying recently and it is what Garde needs to be allowed to do. Garde might not keep us up, but I would rather he was in charge taking a structured long term approach than have someone keep us up only to keep struggling year after year. I'm tired of this and I dare say the employees of the club are as are the players. It shows in some of them and they need to be moved on.
I would back our Reserves to get promoted out of the Championship. If Rudy Gestede can get 13 goals in a season, Libor would get twice that number.
Sorry Dave I stand corrected. I read the number 13 somewhere, possibly his number of headed goals.
Why we would be favourites when there are likely to be two better teams also relegated?
On the plus side Sherwood got us 4 points from 33 possible which is a 12% return. Remi has got us 3 from a possible 18 which is a 17% return. Therefore we are improving..and I'm clutching. I'd already told my mates last week that the next game we lose will be Stoke away on Feb 27th....so we are all good on that as well....:-)
Quote from: avfcpg on December 22, 2015, 02:19:36 PMOn the plus side Sherwood got us 4 points from 33 possible which is a 12% return. Remi has got us 3 from a possible 18 which is a 17% return. Therefore we are improving..and I'm clutching. I'd already told my mates last week that the next game we lose will be Stoke away on Feb 27th....so we are all good on that as well....:-)Also in those 6 games Remi has been in charge for we've played Citeh, Arsenal, Everton, Southampton. They are not easy games.