Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[chrisw1]

What a load of tripe.  More speculation there than the worst red tops

Edit re the post Leicester dressing room post

Thanks for your considered and constructive input.

There was a reason why it was prefaced with  (purely uneducated) guess.

If you'd like to offer a counter explanation as to a possible course of events where we went from doing sort of OK to a split dressing room, which Richards has as good as admitted is the case, with Leicester as the obvious fulcrum point, then feel free.

Why would I?  You've just completely made up a bullshit hypothetical scenario.  What's the point of that?

[N'ZMAV]

Fuck Sherwood, Lambert et al. New start needed.

[Villa in Denmark]

What a load of tripe.  More speculation there than the worst red tops

Edit re the post Leicester dressing room post

Thanks for your considered and constructive input.

There was a reason why it was prefaced with  (purely uneducated) guess.

If you'd like to offer a counter explanation as to a possible course of events where we went from doing sort of OK to a split dressing room, which Richards has as good as admitted is the case, with Leicester as the obvious fulcrum point, then feel free.

Why would I?  You've just completely made up a bullshit hypothetical scenario.  What's the point of that?

A bit of fun debate pontificating about what's gone on,(because something definitely has.)

Why you then need to get you knickers in a twist about something that was clearly marked as nothing other than that is a bit of a mystery.

Still look on the bright side. At least it might have distracted people from creaming their pants over the appointment of our new manager.

Edit:
I've just checked and apparently the correct technical term is "creaming their crackers."

Sounds a bit cheesy to me.

[chrisw1]

What a load of tripe.  More speculation there than the worst red tops

Edit re the post Leicester dressing room post

Thanks for your considered and constructive input.

There was a reason why it was prefaced with  (purely uneducated) guess.

If you'd like to offer a counter explanation as to a possible course of events where we went from doing sort of OK to a split dressing room, which Richards has as good as admitted is the case, with Leicester as the obvious fulcrum point, then feel free.

Why would I?  You've just completely made up a bullshit hypothetical scenario.  What's the point of that?

A bit of fun debate pontificating about what's gone on,(because something definitely has.)

Why you then need to get you knickers in a twist about something that was clearly marked as nothing other than that is a bit of a mystery.

Still look on the bright side. At least it might have distracted people from creaming their pants over the appointment of our new manager.

OK.  I just think Sherwood has taken enough stick based on factual matters that are there for all to see.  Completely making stuff up to give him a further beating just seems a bit unnecessary to me. 

[passport1]

Can't believe how carried away people are getting about this appointment and one interview where he speaks reasonable English and makes some pretty straightforward sensible comments.

I desperately want him to be a success and hopefully he will be.  But really his CV offers little more than Garry Monks or Brendan Rogers (and in an inferior league) who people didn't want to touch with a barge-pole.  Let's hope he's the new Wenger, Klopp of Pep, but it's probably a bit premature to be creaming your crackers about this appointment right now.

Don't worry the honeymoon period will be short lived

[Dave]

I desperately want him to be a success and hopefully he will be.  But really his CV offers little more than Garry Monks or Brendan Rogers

How do you work that out then?

[chrisw1]

I desperately want him to be a success and hopefully he will be.  But really his CV offers little more than Garry Monks or Brendan Rogers

How do you work that out then?

he's had three years of moderate success in a French League.

Rogers and Monk have had periods of moderate success in the Premier League.

[Villa in Denmark]

What a load of tripe.  More speculation there than the worst red tops

Edit re the post Leicester dressing room post

Thanks for your considered and constructive input.

There was a reason why it was prefaced with  (purely uneducated) guess.

If you'd like to offer a counter explanation as to a possible course of events where we went from doing sort of OK to a split dressing room, which Richards has as good as admitted is the case, with Leicester as the obvious fulcrum point, then feel free.

Why would I?  You've just completely made up a bullshit hypothetical scenario.  What's the point of that?

A bit of fun debate pontificating about what's gone on,(because something definitely has.)

Why you then need to get you knickers in a twist about something that was clearly marked as nothing other than that is a bit of a mystery.

Still look on the bright side. At least it might have distracted people from creaming their pants over the appointment of our new manager.

OK.  I just think Sherwood has taken enough stick based on factual matters that are there for all to see.  Completely making stuff up to give him a further beating just seems a bit unnecessary to me.

Given his levels of non-performance and disrespectful way he treated the club over his last 3-4 weeks with his interviews and press conferences, we could never stop beating him enough from my point of view.

My only hope for a possible return to Villa Park for him is that it's with a team he's had for more than 3-4 months.

With regards making stuff up, it was a hypothesis, something to be argued / debated, not taken as an assertion of fact.

Or should we really just believe that nothing happened in the dressing room to move from a team doing sort of OK but not great and looking like the new recruits were starting to get game time, to them all being ostracised as performances and results fell through the floor?

Of all the ifs, buts and maybes from Sherwood's brief reign, that's what I'd like to know more about.

[john e]

What a load of tripe.  More speculation there than the worst red tops

Edit re the post Leicester dressing room post

Thanks for your considered and constructive input.

There was a reason why it was prefaced with  (purely uneducated) guess.

If you'd like to offer a counter explanation as to a possible course of events where we went from doing sort of OK to a split dressing room, which Richards has as good as admitted is the case, with Leicester as the obvious fulcrum point, then feel free.

Why would I?  You've just completely made up a bullshit hypothetical scenario.  What's the point of that?

A bit of fun debate pontificating about what's gone on,(because something definitely has.)

Why you then need to get you knickers in a twist about something that was clearly marked as nothing other than that is a bit of a mystery.

Still look on the bright side. At least it might have distracted people from creaming their pants over the appointment of our new manager.

OK.  I just think Sherwood has taken enough stick based on factual matters that are there for all to see.  Completely making stuff up to give him a further beating just seems a bit unnecessary to me.

Given his levels of non-performance and disrespectful way he treated the club over his last 3-4 weeks with his interviews and press conferences, we could never stop beating him enough from my point of view.

My only hope for a possible return to Villa Park for him is that it's with a team he's had for more than 3-4 months.

With regards making stuff up, it was a hypothesis, something to be argued / debated, not taken as an assertion of fact.

Or should we really just believe that nothing happened in the dressing room to move from a team doing sort of OK but not great and looking like the new recruits were starting to get game time, to them all being ostracised as performances and results fell through the floor?

Of all the ifs, buts and maybes from Sherwood's brief reign, that's what I'd like to know more about.

the only ifs and buts you need worry about is he kept us in the premier league, when most on here thought all hope had gone, and we were nailed on for the drop
if you don't think he can never be beaten enough after he saved our bacon last term then you best crack on with that,

I'm glad hes gone, i'm glad we have Garde, but I wont forget as twatish as he ended up we owe Sherwood

[footyskillz]

Harry Redknapp on talksport just recently didn't seem to know too much on garde. He seemed to think he was a scout at arsenal and was asking ray parlour. I don't know if he was a scout but redknapp went on to say it was a surprise. Redknapp also commented that remi garde looked a serious guy and he's no klopp with a smile on his face so wont get the club buzzing like him. Think that was a clueless comment
Hitzelsberger on talk sport now... He LL talk more sense

[robbo1874]

Sorry Rob but I think the days of deep pockets in football is going to become a thing of the past. There will always be large sums change hands but there will be irresistible moves for even the biggest clubs to become self financing as opposed to being the vanities of trillionaires.

i hope you're right Brian on that score. But if so it means that the clubs with the biggest grounds, biggest commercial operations and biggest worldwide appeal will continue to dominate every bloody season. By that measure we'd be probably even further behind than we currently are though. On that metric, we'd be behind arsenal, city, Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Newcastle and probably (spit) Spurs when they get their new ground, to name but 7 clubs. Salary cap? Minimum no. Of British players? Top 8 then, best we can look forward to for the foreseeable future, barring a freak of finance? Bullshit isn't it? Why does anyone bother anymore?

Yes the odd trip to Wembley, the freak good run where you win a few games, spanking a top side away occasionally, but in the scheme of things it's a stitch up and you're just fodder for the industry if you buy a villa season ticket, or one for everton, Southampton, west ham, palace...

[Villa in Denmark]

I desperately want him to be a success and hopefully he will be.  But really his CV offers little more than Garry Monks or Brendan Rogers

How do you work that out then?

he's had three years of moderate success in a French League.

Rogers and Monk have had periods of moderate success in the Premier League.

Rodgers you could argue about, but with Monk you're having a laugh.
Monk - took over a stable club with a stable squad and kept them bobbing around midtable. Now in his second full year and with a squad that's becoming more his own, looks like he might be struggling a bit. (I hope not because he seems like a decent bloke, working for a well run club that plays pretty good football.)
Garde - took over a hitherto stable club that had had it's financial basis pulled from under it.  Kept the club up around the CL and Europa league places whilst turning the entire squad over and replacing just about anyone of saleable value with graduates from the academy and youth teams.

[footyskillz]

The hitz is optimistic and heard an interview saying remi sounds like a nice guy. There are no easy games but hopefully garde will spend time on the training pitch getting tactics right.
Alan brazil says can only see two losses next two matches and there's not many players to change but the system played .

[Bad English]

Alan Brazil says can only see two losses

For some inexpicable reason, I can only see the name of the 1980-1981 First Division Champions: Aston Villa.

[Jockey Randall]

I desperately want him to be a success and hopefully he will be.  But really his CV offers little more than Garry Monks or Brendan Rogers

How do you work that out then?

he's had three years of moderate success in a French League.

Rogers and Monk have had periods of moderate success in the Premier League.

I think that's a bit harsh on him. His record in Europe looks a lot better than either of those 2 as well.