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Author Topic: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa  (Read 941694 times)

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3510 on: January 28, 2016, 12:31:56 AM »
O'leary could not talk the talk.

He opened his mouth and I wanted to find something ram down his fucking throat. Arsehole. Still turn him off now if he is ever on the box.

With the lack of signings, if Garde gets us to over 25 points he has done well now, I hope he is backed to the hilt in the summer to create his own side.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3511 on: January 28, 2016, 05:15:19 AM »
O'Leary and Houllier both thought they were far better communicators than they actually were.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3512 on: January 28, 2016, 06:51:08 AM »
I struggle to think of too many "decent managers" who walked into such a perfect disaster as Garde did.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3513 on: January 28, 2016, 07:38:10 AM »
I seem to recall one of the main arguments for getting rid of Sherwood was we had assembled a strong squad of players in the summer (a few even comparing it to BFR's business in 1991) and it was only his tactical idiocy that was holding us back.

Coming into a club bottom of the league in November is far from ideal, but it is not worse than the situation Pulis inherited at Palace in 2013, and various Sunderland managers have had to contend with for the past five years.

The better managers (and Pulis) find a way. Garde hasn't.

Exactly.  Yes he's inherited a mess, but you'd expect to see a little bit more than 1 win in 12. 

It's easy to say the right things in a press conference, but the results don't back it up.  It's all beginning to feel a little bit like the O'Leary nightmare.  Talks the talk, but can't walk the walk.

That's the thing.

O'Leary DIDNT talk the talk.

It's NOT that easy to say the right things in a press conference. If it was, why couldn't O'Leary, Houllier, Lambert or Sherwood manage to do one without coming out with something stupid?

It should be easy, if only the man in charge is thinking properly about what he is saying! Being able to do it doesn't guarantee that he will be a good manager, but it's a clue that he might be a bit smarter than some of the idiots that have gone before.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3514 on: January 28, 2016, 08:26:27 AM »
Agree with Ads and Bob.  The wreckage RG walked into was total.  Some of the comments our managers have expressed are beyond stupid and verge on the downright offensive. Lambert's reduced fan expectations, Houllier's it was just a joke saying I did not mind losing to Liverpool, O'Leary's fickle accusation, Sherwood claiming that his plan was to play badly in the first half to lull the Knuckledraggers into a false sense of security.  Add to all that rubbish comments from the board about returning to live with his tribe and false narratives and a measure of the verbal bollocks we have been subjected to is very clear.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3515 on: January 28, 2016, 08:30:17 AM »
I feel like Garde is the first manager in a long time who appears to be doing things that will help the club in the long term, rather than trying to make himself look good in the short term. For that reason alone he deserves time.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3516 on: January 28, 2016, 09:23:56 AM »
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Agree with Ads and Bob.  The wreckage RG walked into was total.  Some of the comments our managers have expressed are beyond stupid and verge on the downright offensive. Lambert's reduced fan expectations, Houllier's it was just a joke saying I did not mind losing to Liverpool, O'Leary's fickle accusation, Sherwood claiming that his plan was to play badly in the first half to lull the Knuckledraggers into a false sense of security.  Add to all that rubbish comments from the board about returning to live with his tribe and false narratives and a measure of the verbal bollocks we have been subjected to is very clear.

I am sorry but I just cannot agree with this comment. From the moment we took Stephen Ireland for James Milner + cash fan expectations have been on the slide. The next pivot was chasing Roberto Martinez and ending up with McLeish. Lambert was on a complete hiding to nothing and while he made a lot of mistakes I am not going to hold him to account for the gradual acceptance of a lower position in the food chain that seems to have gripped the entire club, on and off the pitch.

We signed some absolute dross in his time with us but that was because, after successive relegation battles, we were still trying to do things on the cheap. Those were the seasons where our current problems were being created.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3517 on: January 28, 2016, 09:33:35 AM »
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Agree with Ads and Bob.  The wreckage RG walked into was total.  Some of the comments our managers have expressed are beyond stupid and verge on the downright offensive. Lambert's reduced fan expectations, Houllier's it was just a joke saying I did not mind losing to Liverpool, O'Leary's fickle accusation, Sherwood claiming that his plan was to play badly in the first half to lull the Knuckledraggers into a false sense of security.  Add to all that rubbish comments from the board about returning to live with his tribe and false narratives and a measure of the verbal bollocks we have been subjected to is very clear.

I am sorry but I just cannot agree with this comment. From the moment we took Stephen Ireland for James Milner + cash fan expectations have been on the slide. The next pivot was chasing Roberto Martinez and ending up with McLeish. Lambert was on a complete hiding to nothing and while he made a lot of mistakes I am not going to hold him to account for the gradual acceptance of a lower position in the food chain that seems to have gripped the entire club, on and off the pitch.

We signed some absolute dross in his time with us but that was because, after successive relegation battles, we were still trying to do things on the cheap. Those were the seasons where our current problems were being created.

I don't think Brian is saying that Lambert reduced fan's expectations but he was the one to actually express it. Which nobody wants to hear.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3518 on: January 28, 2016, 09:46:35 AM »
Garde is an antibiotic whereas his predecessors since MON have been sticking plasters.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3519 on: January 28, 2016, 10:20:27 AM »
Garde is an antibiotic whereas his predecessors since MON have been sticking plasters.

At least two of them should have had a f##king steel enema.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3520 on: January 28, 2016, 11:21:13 AM »
Remi has actually made me believe again, and that's the biggest compliment I can give the guy.

For the first time in a long time, we seem to finally have a manager who isn't afraid to say what he believes, and what he says makes sense. Hallelujah!

I don't buy the argument he should have had bigger impact - he took over the Titanic long after it had hit the iceberg and IMO, this was always about the longer term.

We have seen greater effort, greater fitness, more tactical nous, some fight, and some steel decisions that all come as a relief to what went before.

If you can get past the fact that Guardiola would not have rescued the PL survival fight, things look like they are finally stabilizing and for me, after the last 5 years, that's a reason to believe better times lay ahead in the future

Well done Mr Garde




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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3521 on: January 28, 2016, 11:24:32 AM »
O'Leary and Houllier both thought they were far better communicators than they actually were.

Yes. I think they are examples of less is more. Both liked the sound of their own voices. Both denigrated Villa,

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3522 on: January 28, 2016, 11:26:58 AM »
Remi has actually made me believe again, and that's the biggest compliment I can give the guy.

For the first time in a long time, we seem to finally have a manager who isn't afraid to say what he believes, and what he says makes sense. Hallelujah!

I don't buy the argument he should have had bigger impact - he took over the Titanic long after it had hit the iceberg and IMO, this was always about the longer term.

We have seen greater effort, greater fitness, more tactical nous, some fight, and some steel decisions that all come as a relief to what went before.

If you can get past the fact that Guardiola would not have rescued the PL survival fight, things look like they are finally stabilizing and for me, after the last 5 years, that's a reason to believe better times lay ahead in the future

Well done Mr Garde

Agree - he has started to turn the marooned Supertanker.

This is the 6th relegation battle of which 2-3 were totally avoidable.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3523 on: January 28, 2016, 11:36:18 AM »
O'Leary and Houllier both thought they were far better communicators than they actually were.

Yes. I think they are examples of less is more. Both liked the sound of their own voices. Both denigrated Villa,

Both good friends too, apparently.

Pair of wankers.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3524 on: January 28, 2016, 02:03:02 PM »
Remi has actually made me believe again, and that's the biggest compliment I can give the guy.

For the first time in a long time, we seem to finally have a manager who isn't afraid to say what he believes, and what he says makes sense. Hallelujah!

I don't buy the argument he should have had bigger impact - he took over the Titanic long after it had hit the iceberg and IMO, this was always about the longer term.

We have seen greater effort, greater fitness, more tactical nous, some fight, and some steel decisions that all come as a relief to what went before.

If you can get past the fact that Guardiola would not have rescued the PL survival fight, things look like they are finally stabilizing and for me, after the last 5 years, that's a reason to believe better times lay ahead in the future

Well done Mr Garde

Agree - he has started to turn the marooned Supertanker.

This is the 6th relegation battle of which 2-3 were totally avoidable.

This was the most avoidable.  Spent a fair old wedge in the summer, but with no thought about putting together a squad capable of doing OK in the Premier League.  This is why I have no confidence whatsoever in the current leadership team, I bet they still think it was the right thing to do.

 


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