The underlying problem...

[Steve67]

The underlying problem? Not enough movement, not enough physicality, silly individual mistakes and a manager who keeps picking shit players, oh, and a couple of injuries to key players but they seem to be abating.

[b23]

I know I go on about Michael Carrick but that's why he's so good at what he does and he's 6ft 4" too and doesn't get brushed aside.

How much does he weigh?

85 Kg

http://www.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/players/player=50909/profile/index.html

[oswald funkletrumpet]

cant see sherwood dropping him unfortunately

[Mister E]

Wouldn't disagree about Westwood being able to pick a pass, it is the time it takes him to get into a position to pass that I was getting at.  I am not sure whether it is confidence, ball control ability or he is not thinking of options before the ball gets to him.  The latter two points would point towards a limited player that needs time, something you do not get in the EPL.

To be fair, in the ManUre game, he played 2 or 3 excellent first-time  forward passes but the movement ahead of him was insufficient to exploit them.
However, the team practises long enough that the basics we are talking about here really shouldn't be issues.
Incidentally, my son - a pro football coach - identified Westwood's frailties right at the start of his Villa career and has been critical ever since. I cut him more slack but am now in agreement that he is simply not good enough.

[aj2k77]

I know I go on about Michael Carrick but that's why he's so good at what he does and he's 6ft 4" too and doesn't get brushed aside.

How much does he weigh?

85 Kg

http://www.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/players/player=50909/profile/index.html

Star sign?

[brian green]

Perhaps the problem is that our chair has only two legs and it needs at least one more not to fall over all the time.

It seems to me that we have become a Jekyll and Hyde outfit.  Under the TSMs it was almost entirely Mr Hydes out there on the pitch. Latterly under Sherwood we have seen at least something of Dr Jekyll.  We play clever, complex football and score cracking goals or revert to pub team blunders and defeat on a whim.

Perhaps we should consider the third way of simple, strong, quick efficiency. Target man hoofball has become our instinctive line of last resort. 

There were a number if us on these pages begging not to go down the route of buying an inferior version of Benteke to fill the Benteke shaped hole he left. We knew a scenario of Benteke saving Lambert's sorry arse was never going to be replicated by Adebayor/Berbatov/Gestede/Austin saving Sherwood's.

We need simple, efficient error free football.  If we can't be Barcelona that does not mean we have to be Pulisists.

[LTA]

Perhaps the problem is that our chair has only two legs and it needs at least one more not to fall over all the time.

It seems to me that we have become a Jekyll and Hyde outfit.  Under the TSMs it was almost entirely Mr Hydes out there on the pitch. Latterly under Sherwood we have seen at least something of Dr Jekyll.  We play clever, complex football and score cracking goals or revert to pub team blunders and defeat on a whim.

Perhaps we should consider the third way of simple, strong, quick efficiency. Target man hoofball has become our instinctive line of last resort. 

There were a number if us on these pages begging not to go down the route of buying an inferior version of Benteke to fill the Benteke shaped hole he left. We knew a scenario of Benteke saving Lambert's sorry arse was never going to be replicated by Adebayor/Berbatov/Gestede/Austin saving Sherwood's.

We need simple, efficient error free football.  If we can't be Barcelona that does not mean we have to be Pulisists.

We all know that that the high turn over of players was always going to lead to some uncertainty, but we really could have done with some battlers in the side.  A lot of the players we've brought probably haven't experience of a relegation battle before, and that's a concern.

[villan from luton]

The underlying problem? Not enough movement, not enough physicality, silly individual mistakes and a manager who keeps picking shit players, oh, and a couple of injuries to key players but they seem to be abating.

How tall was Makalele, sorry, first post I saw and not got a Scooby what you are on about. Size is not everything in some ways thankfully lol

[CT Villan]

We all know that that the high turn over of players was always going to lead to some uncertainty, but we really could have done with some battlers in the side.  A lot of the players we've brought probably haven't experience of a relegation battle before, and that's a concern.

Sherwood stated he wanted to import a 'winning mentality' and by definition those with experience battling relegation are not doing too well in the winning stakes. Though by the end of this season, all of our players could have that experience if things don't improve drastically.

[silhillvilla]

We need to quickly decide if Micah Richards is a CB or RB and play him accordingly. Likewise Sinclair & Grealish need to be played in position.

[Malandro]

We need to quickly decide if Micah Richards is a CB or RB and play him accordingly. Likewise Sinclair & Grealish need to be played in position.

I can't argue with any of that.

The thing that annoys me most is that centre back has been a problem for a long time yet we've done little about - players like Huth, Danns and Hangeland have all moved for little money.

[Clampy]

Whilst I think Richards might be a better at right back, he's done nothing wrong at centre half. I think he's been great since he's been here.

[Malandro]

Whilst I think Richards might be a better at right back, he's done nothing wrong at centre half. I think he's been great since he's been here.

Richards down one side and Amavi on the other, I doubt there would be a better pair in the league.
Micah has been pretty good in the middle however.

[brian green]

On balance I would prefer to see Micah at RB but he does add some very much needed muscle to our central defence.

[Tony Erdington]

if your moving Richards, whose that leave in the centre, I'll go with Clarke but with who Okore aint quite back yet, and Lescott well if his got any strenths , we aint playing to them?