The underlying problem...

[Rudy65]

I've seen nearly every game over the last miserable five years, this is no-where near as bad as its been.

I disagree. Only because when we got to the final, we had some hope for a few weeks. The SF was one of my best days out in football ever. I thought we had finally turned the corner again. I wasnt exoecting miracles but a nice steady mid table finish this season would have suited me fine and thenbuild from there. So we had some hope and now its gone Pete Tonge again and so soon after the SF.

Thats why in my view this is as bad as its been since 2010

[Sexual Ealing]

Of course, if we really want to make a difference as fans, we need to start thinking about the nuclear option: the use of incongruous quotation marks. "Tactics", "coaching", "football manager", "entertainment". Nothing ought to be left off the table.

[Pete3206]

its sometimes very hard to put into words what your head and heart are saying.
many of us on here remember the halcyon days of the late seventies and early eighties
but try to forget the early seventies and late eighties.
what got us from the 3rd to the 1st? the 2nd back to the 1st?
I don't know the answer,does anybody?
So many questions but no definitive answers.
I do believe it was almost certainly down to continuity and a strong and passionate
boardroom(ie the very top dogs at the club). We now seem devoid of any ambition
at this wonderful football club and it is really starting to worry me what lies in store.
OK I know if we do get relegated we would be back,without doubt, but returning any
better or wiser, I doubt.
The problem lies at the very top,we need a new owner with people around him that
have villa close to their hearts(dream on).We keep trying to mop up the puddles(McLeish
lambert et al) but until the root cause is addressed we will continue to fester..


 

4/10. Doesn't even rhyme.

I don't know. If you imagine Bernard Sumner singing them with some melancholy tune, it kind of works.

[Dave Pountney]

We've been clutching at straws for years now as each new manager and clutch of new players comes along. Little shafts of light and optimism before the unremitting gloom returns to extinguish all hope. The odd exceptional performance and result and then its Groundhog Day once again, the ineptitude returns and the results nosedive again. There was a Telegraph football reporter on the TV last week saying that clubs like Sunderland, Newcastle and Villa were "rotten to the core" and needed to be relegated. Yesterday, another reporter put Liverpool's win yesterday in context by saying they were playing one of the worst sides in the Premiership. That's our Villa they're talking about here and the really humiliating thing is that they're right. We're a weakling getting sand kicked in our face on the beach whilst still thinking we're a playground tough man. I don't like Small Heath and the Ollbeyun one bit, but you can see where their fans are coming from when they call us deluded pricks.

Lerner is an utterly disastrous owner now and any credit he had ran out four years ago. He's brought us to our lowest ebb as a club for 50 years. A clueless will o' the wisp whose existence is now a faint rumour. The buffoon can't even sell what he owns. Until he goes, the pain and agony will continue. Many more months of torment lie ahead, I fear.

[Malandro]

The underlying problem is the owner, not a dig but the fact we are for sale and we are buying players in line with that fact.

The issue with the playing side is we have lost three major players, have a group new to the league and the teams that have been promoted have settled, organised teams.

I just hope the talent we have, will prove itself. I'm confident(ish) !

[Ron Manager]

The underlying problem is the owner, not a dig but the fact we are for sale and we are buying players in line with that fact.

The issue with the playing side is we have lost three major players, have a group new to the league and the teams that have been promoted have settled, organised teams.

I just hope the talent we have, will prove itself. I'm confident(ish) !

Tom Cleverley was on loan to us. Unless of course you mean Andreas Weimann!

[Malandro]

The underlying problem is the owner, not a dig but the fact we are for sale and we are buying players in line with that fact.

The issue with the playing side is we have lost three major players, have a group new to the league and the teams that have been promoted have settled, organised teams.

I just hope the talent we have, will prove itself. I'm confident(ish) !

Tom Cleverley was on loan to us. Unless of course you mean Andreas Weimann!

I meant Vlaar, not that he was any use last year I suppose!

[rob_bridge]

O'Neill was allowed to near bankrupt the club
Houllier should never have been hired as manager, nor his useless lacky
McLeish should never have been hired to even make the tea
Lambert should have been binned in May 2014

Fuck up after fuck up after fuck up. Humiliation after humilation to lower league clubs in Cup competitions.

Absent owner, income fallen behind others, CEO 1 was a credit card manager,  CEO 2 talked about falese narratives after wed scrored 12 goals at a rate of 0,5 per game.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

I've seen nearly every game over the last miserable five years, this is no-where near as bad as its been.

I disagree. Only because when we got to the final, we had some hope for a few weeks. The SF was one of my best days out in football ever. I thought we had finally turned the corner again. I wasnt exoecting miracles but a nice steady mid table finish this season would have suited me fine and thenbuild from there. So we had some hope and now its gone Pete Tonge again and so soon after the SF.

Thats why in my view this is as bad as its been since 2010

agree with that

the bitters game was as bad and as clueless as anything i have seen in the past 5 seasons as was the first half against small heath

6 tough games coming up if we pick up 3 wins (highly unlikely) that would give us 13 points from 13 games

[Malandro]

I've seen nearly every game over the last miserable five years, this is no-where near as bad as its been.

I disagree. Only because when we got to the final, we had some hope for a few weeks. The SF was one of my best days out in football ever. I thought we had finally turned the corner again. I wasnt exoecting miracles but a nice steady mid table finish this season would have suited me fine and thenbuild from there. So we had some hope and now its gone Pete Tonge again and so soon after the SF.

Thats why in my view this is as bad as its been since 2010

agree with that

the bitters game was as bad and as clueless as anything i have seen in the past 5 seasons as was the first half against small heath

6 tough games coming up if we pick up 3 wins (highly unlikely) that would give us 13 points from 13 games

you must have missed large chunks of Lamberts tenure.

[passport1]

The club has the same stink about it that it had in the late 60s early 70s before we began our disastrous plunge.

I hope am wrong but the warning signs are all there.

Are you employed by Lerner?

There's some over the top comments on here today but that one's the best so far.

[pauliewalnuts]

Isn't the important point not whether it is as bad as anything in the last five years or not, but that it is still woefully short of what is acceptable?

And that's at a time where our expectations are so low, it should be pretty much impossible to fail to satisfy them.

[Walmley_Villa]

Like Sunderland, years of shit and a culture of losing throughout the club. Hoped Sherwood would change that and initially did. All changed when we got slaughtered at Southampton which in my opinion led to the tame Wembley display.

[passport1]

O'Neill was allowed to near bankrupt the club
Houllier should never have been hired as manager, nor his useless lacky
McLeish should never have been hired to even make the tea
Lambert should have been binned in May 2014

Fuck up after fuck up after fuck up. Humiliation after humilation to lower league clubs in Cup competitions.

Absent owner, income fallen behind others, CEO 1 was a credit card manager,  CEO 2 talked about falese narratives after wed scrored 12 goals at a rate of 0,5 per game.

Careful you will be accused of being over the top .

As I said previously I can only recall the club being this badly run in the late 60s early 70s.You can't get away with being this inept indefinitely, sooner or later the cumulative effect of cock up on cock up catches up with you.

Of cource some will say it couldn't possibly happen but some of us are old enough to remember this scenario and the eventual outcone.

[silhillvilla]

I fear we won't even reach 30 points this season.