QuoteEverything about the Lerner early years was class, MON appointmentNo credit to Ellis for this appointment?
Everything about the Lerner early years was class, MON appointment
I thought the Lambert appointment was a bad one. His record at Norwich was pretty good, but it was mostly achieved with a front two of Grant Holt and Steve Morison - not exactly the progressive, modern football our rivals were going for.
Let's not forget that the Lambert appointment came directly after managergeddon. We could have appointed a bag of frozen peas and there would have been street parties all over north Birmingham.
At Ajax they call it the club’s “technical heart” and it is staffed by some of the most famous players in their recent history. At Liverpool it is known as the “transfer committee” and includes some who could stroll down Walton Breck Road without fear of being recognised. At Aston Villa they do not yet have a name for those responsible for signing players, but the club’s current situation suggests that, whatever it is they are trying to do, it certainly isn’t working.Tim Sherwood, the Villa manager, goes into Saturday’s game against Chelsea with the unenviable task of making the club’s brave summer transfer strategy work, safe in the knowledge that it will be him politely ushered out the gates should it fail. As the old managerial saying on player recruitment goes, it is a team effort right up to the moment that the director of football is stood on the kerbside waving goodbye to the manager.No modern manager can take on the burden of player recruitment alone, in an age when Villa are more likely to sign a player from Lorient or Barcelona B than Chelmsford City from where they once plucked a teenage Nigel Spink. Southampton and Swansea City have led the way in developing recruitment systems which not only acquire new players with the buy-in of managers, but also replace managers themselves with the minimum of fuss or disruption.At Villa, this summer’s policy of buying almost exclusively young players with the emphasis on potential has so far left them 18th with four points from eight games. Their manager is now obliged to oversee his new charges’ development in the midst of a relegation fight, as well as save his own job– and all this before the clocks have even gone back.All Villa transfer policy is overseen by the German sporting director Hendrik Almstadt, recruited this summer by chief executive Tom Fox from his former club Arsenal. Almstadt had originally joined Arsenal on the commercial side but his interest in data analytics, scouting and contract management permitted him a change in direction towards player recruitment.The director of scouting and recruitment Paddy Reilly came back from Liverpool last year for his second spell at Villa and his connection with Randy Lerner, the club’s owner, has proven crucial. The Villa owner has the final sign-off on all transfers and he has endorsed the view that young players, with the potential to be sold at a profit must be a priority.The club’s stated policy in their summer transfer dealings has been to pursue youth, remorselessly it seemed in the end, testing Sherwood’s credentials as a developer of young footballers to the limit. Lerner has been burned before, and looking around a squad that included the likes of Joe Cole, Philippe Senderos and Charles N’Zogbia he resolved never to be loaded down with the expensive, superannuated players that have been a feature of previous squads.This summer Villa had a deal agreed with Aaron Lennon, later abandoned in keeping with policy for Adama Traore’s £7 million move from Barcelona. The 19-year-old might yet set the league alight but he could also be playing for a Championship club next season if Villa do not improve quickly. Moves for Esteban Cambiasso, Asmir Begovic, Tom Cleverley and Victor Moses also fell by the wayside as the club pursued their youth-first policy. Sherwood must accept that he signed up for this ride and having ceded ultimate control of player transfer at the point he was best-placed to demand it – the moment before he signed his contract – will just have to do his best. Yet there will be only one casualty if Villa’s decline continues and the next manager will also be obliged to work with a group of players bought with 2017 in mind, rather than Saturday afternoon at Stamford Bridge.There is undoubtedly a place in modern football for analysts who can pick their way through the great scree slopes of data now available on the elite game. All successful Premier League clubs are required to cast their net wide for players, with a network of scouts who work to standardised objectives and procedures rather than a proverbial finger in the wind. Yet when it works best, like Southampton, the recruitment team provides Ronald Koeman with a list of options to fill a position, and he makes the final decision.Without that safety net, mistakes can be made.Of the 13 players who arrived at Villa this summer, on a net spend of around £7 million, it has been Jordan Veretout, a 22-year-old midfielder signed from Nantes for £8 million, who has looked the furthest off the pace. Many of the others remain works in progress.There is great potential at Villa, not least with Jack Grealish, the 20-year-old homegrown midfielder and, beyond him, the 17-year-olds Andre Green and Rushian Hepburn-Murphy, the latter of whom has already made his Premier League debut. Lose on Saturday and the likelihood of Sherwood being around to see those three flourish will be that much reduced, although you would not bet against those in the recruitment department emerging unscathed.
Not Tims fault ...http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11932271/If-Tim-Sherwood-is-sacked-those-behind-Aston-Villas-deeply-flawed-transfer-policy-should-pay-too.htmlQuoteAt Ajax they call it the club’s “technical heart” and it is staffed by some of the most famous players in their recent history. At Liverpool it is known as the “transfer committee” and includes some who could stroll down Walton Breck Road without fear of being recognised. At Aston Villa they do not yet have a name for those responsible for signing players, but the club’s current situation suggests that, whatever it is they are trying to do, it certainly isn’t working.Tim Sherwood, the Villa manager, goes into Saturday’s game against Chelsea with the unenviable task of making the club’s brave summer transfer strategy work, safe in the knowledge that it will be him politely ushered out the gates should it fail. As the old managerial saying on player recruitment goes, it is a team effort right up to the moment that the director of football is stood on the kerbside waving goodbye to the manager.No modern manager can take on the burden of player recruitment alone, in an age when Villa are more likely to sign a player from Lorient or Barcelona B than Chelmsford City from where they once plucked a teenage Nigel Spink. Southampton and Swansea City have led the way in developing recruitment systems which not only acquire new players with the buy-in of managers, but also replace managers themselves with the minimum of fuss or disruption.At Villa, this summer’s policy of buying almost exclusively young players with the emphasis on potential has so far left them 18th with four points from eight games. Their manager is now obliged to oversee his new charges’ development in the midst of a relegation fight, as well as save his own job– and all this before the clocks have even gone back.All Villa transfer policy is overseen by the German sporting director Hendrik Almstadt, recruited this summer by chief executive Tom Fox from his former club Arsenal. Almstadt had originally joined Arsenal on the commercial side but his interest in data analytics, scouting and contract management permitted him a change in direction towards player recruitment.The director of scouting and recruitment Paddy Reilly came back from Liverpool last year for his second spell at Villa and his connection with Randy Lerner, the club’s owner, has proven crucial. The Villa owner has the final sign-off on all transfers and he has endorsed the view that young players, with the potential to be sold at a profit must be a priority.The club’s stated policy in their summer transfer dealings has been to pursue youth, remorselessly it seemed in the end, testing Sherwood’s credentials as a developer of young footballers to the limit. Lerner has been burned before, and looking around a squad that included the likes of Joe Cole, Philippe Senderos and Charles N’Zogbia he resolved never to be loaded down with the expensive, superannuated players that have been a feature of previous squads.This summer Villa had a deal agreed with Aaron Lennon, later abandoned in keeping with policy for Adama Traore’s £7 million move from Barcelona. The 19-year-old might yet set the league alight but he could also be playing for a Championship club next season if Villa do not improve quickly. Moves for Esteban Cambiasso, Asmir Begovic, Tom Cleverley and Victor Moses also fell by the wayside as the club pursued their youth-first policy. Sherwood must accept that he signed up for this ride and having ceded ultimate control of player transfer at the point he was best-placed to demand it – the moment before he signed his contract – will just have to do his best. Yet there will be only one casualty if Villa’s decline continues and the next manager will also be obliged to work with a group of players bought with 2017 in mind, rather than Saturday afternoon at Stamford Bridge.There is undoubtedly a place in modern football for analysts who can pick their way through the great scree slopes of data now available on the elite game. All successful Premier League clubs are required to cast their net wide for players, with a network of scouts who work to standardised objectives and procedures rather than a proverbial finger in the wind. Yet when it works best, like Southampton, the recruitment team provides Ronald Koeman with a list of options to fill a position, and he makes the final decision.Without that safety net, mistakes can be made.Of the 13 players who arrived at Villa this summer, on a net spend of around £7 million, it has been Jordan Veretout, a 22-year-old midfielder signed from Nantes for £8 million, who has looked the furthest off the pace. Many of the others remain works in progress.There is great potential at Villa, not least with Jack Grealish, the 20-year-old homegrown midfielder and, beyond him, the 17-year-olds Andre Green and Rushian Hepburn-Murphy, the latter of whom has already made his Premier League debut. Lose on Saturday and the likelihood of Sherwood being around to see those three flourish will be that much reduced, although you would not bet against those in the recruitment department emerging unscathed.
Let's not forget that the Lambert appointment came directly after managergeddon. We could have appointed a bag of frozen peas and there would have been street parties all over north Birmingham. The problem with Lambert is that he lasted so long. So damned, fucking long.
So the tit for tat has begun in earnest, this is Sherwood protecting himself against what now appears to be the inevitable end. I am not saying the article is wrong to me it smacks of the truth but any manager is able at any time to wave goodbye if he feels he has been short sided. Lets get this over quickly.
Lerner does not even select the manager, so relax. Merely because they can say "Lerner,"and thus think that they have attained the Holy Grail of polysyllabism, all the nitwits who criticize the owner on this point just like to think of themselves as saying something meaningful. Trust me when I tell you that you have not. We get it; you think Lerner's appointments have sucked. In the case of McLeish, you are right, but the others are defensible and were never Lerner's alone anyway. You are boring; please stop wasting people's time with your drivel.
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