Quote from: cdbullyweefan on October 08, 2016, 06:00:20 PMEither New Zealand are a bit good, or Di Matteo has taken over as Springboks coach.A bit of both to be fair, this is the same bok side that deservedly lost to Japan remember. New Zealand are the world number one, quite clearly, and England are the world number 2, again quite clearly. After that you have a bunch of sides who can match those 2 in 1 off games (maybe) but are a long way short of being able to hit that level consistently. SA are just in that group but only if they can put out their best 15.
Either New Zealand are a bit good, or Di Matteo has taken over as Springboks coach.
Quote from: paul_e on October 08, 2016, 06:58:17 PMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on October 08, 2016, 06:00:20 PMEither New Zealand are a bit good, or Di Matteo has taken over as Springboks coach.A bit of both to be fair, this is the same bok side that deservedly lost to Japan remember. New Zealand are the world number one, quite clearly, and England are the world number 2, again quite clearly. After that you have a bunch of sides who can match those 2 in 1 off games (maybe) but are a long way short of being able to hit that level consistently. SA are just in that group but only if they can put out their best 15.The All Blacks have a scarily good squad at the moment and that's the big difference between them and everyone else. All the changes they make during a game makes they stronger as they are replacing world class players with players just as good. There is lots of competition for places at the moment and they could probably field three teams that would beat most other countries (sadly).
I was going to post something similar. Kvesic would be an automatic pick for most international sides by way of example. He can't get in our squad.
Ashton seems to have given up on playing for England again - signed for Toulon for next season.