Guzan has never been a top keeper, not ever. Top 8 keeper? I think that says more about certain fans' judgement of players than anything else.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2015, 07:47:22 PMGuzan has never been a top keeper, not ever. Top 8 keeper? I think that says more about certain fans' judgement of players than anything else. Better than Given though at the time or does he fit more for your demand of top level premier league player on premier league wages....bleeding this club dry.
Quote from: SoccerHQ on December 30, 2015, 08:58:03 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2015, 07:47:22 PMGuzan has never been a top keeper, not ever. Top 8 keeper? I think that says more about certain fans' judgement of players than anything else. Better than Given though at the time or does he fit more for your demand of top level premier league player on premier league wages....bleeding this club dry.You see I don't think Guzan was ever better than Given, just cheaper, that's why he became our first choice. And the only person bleeding this club dry is Randy Lerner.
For the level that Gabby reached and his age, he should be doing far better now than he is. That is why he is coming in for criticism.He has allowed his career to fall apart.
Quote from: old man villa fan on December 30, 2015, 09:30:31 PMFor the level that Gabby reached and his age, he should be doing far better now than he is. That is why he is coming in for criticism.He has allowed his career to fall apart.Indeed with the right attitude he could have been an England squad regular and scored at least 100 goals for us.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2015, 09:03:10 PMQuote from: SoccerHQ on December 30, 2015, 08:58:03 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2015, 07:47:22 PMGuzan has never been a top keeper, not ever. Top 8 keeper? I think that says more about certain fans' judgement of players than anything else. Better than Given though at the time or does he fit more for your demand of top level premier league player on premier league wages....bleeding this club dry.You see I don't think Guzan was ever better than Given, just cheaper, that's why he became our first choice. And the only person bleeding this club dry is Randy Lerner.And once again goes sailing past the point to get a pointless pious shot of at Lerner.Guzan wasn't resigned as Given's replacement. He was resigned as Given's back up.Now how many clubs have top notch keepers as back up? Bare in mind we're talking about the Given of Lambert's first summer where he'd just been a big factor in us scraping enough points under McLeish.
Regarding Guzan. Is it just a coincidence that his form has gone seriously downhill since Reggie Kray was bought in as goalkeeping coach?I've never thought he was Schmeichel or anything but he was vital during those two years of trying to survive under Lambert.I agree he's terrible now by comparison but the crock of shite he has in front of him week in week out cannot give him one aiota of confidence either.
I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.
Quote from: Clampy on December 31, 2015, 11:13:59 AMI think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap. No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.