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Author Topic: Gabby - keep or let go  (Read 117303 times)

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Gabby - keep or let go
« Reply #750 on: December 30, 2015, 08:58:03 PM »
Guzan has never been a top keeper, not ever. Top 8 keeper? I think that says more about certain fans' judgement of players than anything else.

Better than Given though at the time or does he fit more for your demand of top level premier league player on premier league wages....bleeding this club dry.

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Re: Gabby - keep or let go
« Reply #751 on: December 30, 2015, 09:03:10 PM »
Guzan has never been a top keeper, not ever. Top 8 keeper? I think that says more about certain fans' judgement of players than anything else.

Better than Given though at the time or does he fit more for your demand of top level premier league player on premier league wages....bleeding this club dry.

You see I don't think Guzan was ever better than Given, just cheaper, that's why he became our first choice.
And the only person bleeding this club dry is Randy Lerner.

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Re: Gabby - keep or let go
« Reply #752 on: December 30, 2015, 09:30:31 PM »
For the level that Gabby reached and his age, he should be doing far better now than he is.  That is why he is coming in for criticism.

He has allowed his career to fall apart.

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Re: Gabby - keep or let go
« Reply #753 on: December 30, 2015, 09:39:07 PM »
Guzan has never been a top keeper, not ever. Top 8 keeper? I think that says more about certain fans' judgement of players than anything else.

Better than Given though at the time or does he fit more for your demand of top level premier league player on premier league wages....bleeding this club dry.

You see I don't think Guzan was ever better than Given, just cheaper, that's why he became our first choice.
And the only person bleeding this club dry is Randy Lerner.

Bleeding it dry of hope, optimism and belief yes. Money, no.

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Re: Gabby - keep or let go
« Reply #754 on: December 30, 2015, 10:20:23 PM »
Guzan has never been a top keeper, not ever. Top 8 keeper? I think that says more about certain fans' judgement of players than anything else.

Better than Given though at the time or does he fit more for your demand of top level premier league player on premier league wages....bleeding this club dry.

You see I don't think Guzan was ever better than Given, just cheaper, that's why he became our first choice.
And the only person bleeding this club dry is Randy Lerner.

And once again goes sailing past the point to get a pointless pious shot of at Lerner.

Guzan wasn't resigned as Given's replacement. He was resigned as Given's back up.

Now how many clubs have top notch keepers as back up? Bare in mind we're talking about the Given of Lambert's first summer where he'd just been a big factor in us scraping enough points under McLeish.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Gabby - keep or let go
« Reply #755 on: December 31, 2015, 05:04:25 AM »
Gabby's just a fat fuck - ask half the female population of the West Midlands

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Re: Gabby - keep or let go
« Reply #756 on: December 31, 2015, 08:51:51 AM »
For the level that Gabby reached and his age, he should be doing far better now than he is.  That is why he is coming in for criticism.

He has allowed his career to fall apart.

Indeed with the right attitude he could have been an England squad regular and scored at least 100 goals for us.

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Re: Gabby - keep or let go
« Reply #757 on: December 31, 2015, 10:27:07 AM »
For the level that Gabby reached and his age, he should be doing far better now than he is.  That is why he is coming in for criticism.

He has allowed his career to fall apart.

Indeed with the right attitude he could have been an England squad regular and scored at least 100 goals for us.

Yep he's let himself down.

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Re: Gabby - keep or let go
« Reply #758 on: December 31, 2015, 10:33:19 AM »
Guzan has never been a top keeper, not ever. Top 8 keeper? I think that says more about certain fans' judgement of players than anything else.

Better than Given though at the time or does he fit more for your demand of top level premier league player on premier league wages....bleeding this club dry.

You see I don't think Guzan was ever better than Given, just cheaper, that's why he became our first choice.
And the only person bleeding this club dry is Randy Lerner.

And once again goes sailing past the point to get a pointless pious shot of at Lerner.

Guzan wasn't resigned as Given's replacement. He was resigned as Given's back up.

Now how many clubs have top notch keepers as back up? Bare in mind we're talking about the Given of Lambert's first summer where he'd just been a big factor in us scraping enough points under McLeish.

I'm not particularly prone to defending Lerner, but the "because he's cheaper" line doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

How come Given spent so many matches on the bench while Guzan started if it's all about the wages?

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Re: Gabby - keep or let go
« Reply #759 on: December 31, 2015, 10:38:44 AM »
Gabby had one gift speed and that has gone, he has no ball control (never had) has little vision and is an idle fuck. I don't think he has done too bad for himself and he will be rolling in it for the next four years thanks to the idiots running Villa.

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Re: Gabby - keep or let go
« Reply #760 on: December 31, 2015, 10:58:33 AM »
Regarding Guzan.  Is it just a coincidence that his form has gone seriously downhill since Reggie Kray was bought in as goalkeeping coach?

I've never thought he was Schmeichel or anything but he was vital during those two years of trying to survive under Lambert.

I agree he's terrible now by comparison but the crock of shite he has in front of him week in week out cannot give him one aiota of confidence either.

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Re: Gabby - keep or let go
« Reply #761 on: December 31, 2015, 11:06:01 AM »
Regarding Guzan.  Is it just a coincidence that his form has gone seriously downhill since Reggie Kray was bought in as goalkeeping coach?

I've never thought he was Schmeichel or anything but he was vital during those two years of trying to survive under Lambert.

I agree he's terrible now by comparison but the crock of shite he has in front of him week in week out cannot give him one aiota of confidence either.

It's a 2 way street though. His form at the end of last season was awful too, when the back 4 weren't quite so  Keystone Cops.

Anyone who watched it culminate at Man City would be worried about how much shit he was going to drop you in.

I hadn't thought about the effect of the change (introduction of) coaches after Timmy Me turned up. I can't remember how he was earlier in last season, I've expunged the actual performances from memory.

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Re: Gabby - keep or let go
« Reply #762 on: December 31, 2015, 11:13:59 AM »
I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.

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Re: Gabby - keep or let go
« Reply #763 on: December 31, 2015, 11:25:34 AM »
I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.

No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.

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Re: Gabby - keep or let go
« Reply #764 on: December 31, 2015, 11:29:29 AM »
I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.

No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.

In your opinion, of course.

 


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