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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: claretandbeer on August 04, 2015, 10:12:01 AM
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Now has Ayew and ,surely,Sinclair for competition for his striking role.I think Sinclair is better than Gabby and Ayew is our biggest purchase this summer.
Gabby has been criticised for his work rate/ attitude but in stark contrast to the Moores and Dalian Atkinson who were blessed with far more ability,he has amassed more than 300 appearances.
He will soon be 29 and his pace is down from previous seasons and Gabby ,like Vassell,without blistering pace is very ordinary. As a former international and first team regular,there should be clubs who will pay a sizeable fee .
Would you keep and perhaps play him in wide and central midfield when needed or sell ?
I would probably opt for cashing in before the end of the transfer window.
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Keep. He was instrumental in our upsurge in form until he got injured and easy to forget we were worried post Tottenham as he was looking bright and lively. Sherwood was also waxing lyrical about him. I think he's vital, or at least a wanted cog, in the Sherwood up tempo system that he is keen to deploy. He scores important goals and never minds whichever position he is asked to play, even if it doesn't fit into his style of play. He has played wide, had to do a lot of back tracking, played the lone furrow by running the channels, worked with a similar sized player although none of that is his game. feeding off Young's crosses and playing off Carew saw him at his best. Playing the lone man but the way we used Benteke a,lso gave him the chance to play on the shoulder but his pace have made manager after manager misuse him. It was only O'Neill he saw the best way to play him.
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I really hate writing this, but i'd have to say cash in. Gabby performs to his full ability in around two games out of ten. During the others he just doesn't appear arsed and this has been the case for a few years now. His work rate and determination made him as a player: it disguised his lack of footballing ability.
The frustrating thing about Gabby, is that we know he can be absolute handful to defences, but we seldom see it anymore.
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Gabby's best position in the Premier League is impact sub.
If he's happy in that role and his wages aren't a factor then keep him.
If he wants to start regularly, then he should be allowed to leave.
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keep. squad player at best - well past his best.
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keep unless financially obliged to sell which I hope isn't the case, still has the odd great game in him, and as it stands the other three strikers are Gestede (unproven at this level), Kozak (ditto) and Robinson (double ditto). Should another one come in that might strengthen the case to sell, but doubt Tim will.
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Gabby's best position in the Premier League is impact sub.
If he's happy in that role and his wages aren't a factor then keep him.
If he wants to start regularly, then he should be allowed to leave.
Pretty much this. As long as we are looking towards the future then I don't mind Gabby sticking around as a squad player. He is part of the Villa Park funiture after all.
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Get rid.
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Gabby's best position in the Premier League is impact sub.
If he's happy in that role and his wages aren't a factor then keep him.
If he wants to start regularly, then he should be allowed to leave.
Exactly this, i dont think he should start as he just isnt consistent enough over 90 minutes. Didnt he only get 1 assist all last season aswell? 6 goals and 1 assist all season to me doesnt show signs of us being desperate to keep him
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Who'd buy him?
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keep...as a impact sub.
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The Doc
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He's done well to play for us as long as he has, great in a derby but ultimately very ordianary, if he could score he'd be worth more than Wickham but sadly he can't
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keep...as a impact sub.
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Who'd buy him?
You'd be surprised. If Conor Wickham can carve out a top flight career beyond just one club then just about anyone can.
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Keep, in the unlikely event that we play SHA again we can wheel him out. He always seems to score against that lot.
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Another Michael Owen. As soon as the pace deserted him (and a lot of it seemed to be his own making with the timber he has been carrying around), his threat became less and less. This was quickly picked up by other teams and knew they did not have to defend so deep. Hence, I believe why a lot more pressure was put on our midfield over the last few years.
I don't think he will be happy playing a bit part role, so I think its time for him to go.
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He's worth keeping around to bring on as a sub when we've got a lead to give chasing teams something to think about; and he can start the games against Albion. Other than that, I don't want to see him on a pitch in a PL game.
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Keep. Useful squad player.
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Time to move him on while he's still worth something. No new contract when his one expires.
Decent player for Wolves to go after.
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Keep. On his day he's unplayable still.
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not sure we'd get much money for him tbh, unless someone wants him as their token english player.
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Time to move him on while he's still worth something. No new contract when his one expires.
Decent player for Wolves to go after.
Well if it is to be believed that he is on around £60,000 a week and still has three years of his four year contract to run, then roughly paying £8.5 million in wages for someone to sit on the bench is a lot of money.
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Keep. Get a decent winger in and he'll score goals again.
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Let go. Hasn't been good enough for years, and as injury prone as Nathan Baker.
We need better than one good game in ten.
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Time to move him on while he's still worth something. No new contract when his one expires.
Decent player for Wolves to go after.
Well if it is to be believed that he is on around £60,000 a week and still has three years of his four year contract to run, then roughly paying £8.5 million in wages for someone to sit on the bench is a lot of money.
Which is why we need to ship him out while there's still some value and save on the wages.
The one good game in ten analogy is right where Gabby is concerned and that cannot be acceptable anymore.
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If we can get a good price for him that can be invested elsewhere then I would say take the money. It may actually be good for him to have a new start somewhere else too - he's probably too comfortable at Villa. But it would be very strange to see him line up against us.
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Gabby is like our very own version of Forrest Gump. He's not the brightest spark on the pitch and his finishing is shockingly bad at time, but he can still terrify most defenders with his pace. TS needs to have a word and get more performances out of him...as someone else previously mentioned, if he can rediscover his work rate and determination then he is useful but as good as useless if he's not even making the effort expected of him; if he can't raise his game, then ship him out as should happen to any player not giving 100%.
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Keep, useful squad player who would be ideal to come off the bench for the last 15 minutes to use his pace against tired defenders.
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Another Michael Owen. As soon as the pace deserted him (and a lot of it seemed to be his own making with the timber he has been carrying around), his threat became less and less. This was quickly picked up by other teams and knew they did not have to defend so deep. Hence, I believe why a lot more pressure was put on our midfield over the last few years.
I don't think he will be happy playing a bit part role, so I think its time for him to go.
Another Michael Owen? People seem to forget how goo Owen was before the injuries, comparing (if that is what you're doing) him to Agbonlahor is insulting.
I'd let him go. We should ask this question again after he misses a sitter vs Bournemouth.
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IF it were not for that STUPID song that some fans sing about our beloved Gabby, he would have been gone some years ago!
I pray that someone will make a bid for him and he goes along with Hutton / Nzogbia etc....
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Keep. I think alotof you are forgetting that Gabbys downturn in goal returns has coincided with two of the crappest, most negative managerial apoointments ive ever witnessed. Gabby has never been nor ever will be the sort of player who can win a game with no help from anyone else (like Benteke). Lets just see what he turns out under a progressive, attack minded manager.
I think, If he stays fit and gets a decent run in the side under Sherwood he will surprise a few of you on here.
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Keep. I know there's no room for sentimentality in football but Gabby is Villa through and through, and I believe it's important to have someone like that in the dressing room.
We've all been bemoaning the attitude of footballers in recent weeks. Gabby has always been loyal. It would be a shame to see him in a different shirt.
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Keep. I know there's no room for sentimentality in football but Gabby is Villa through and through, and I believe it's important to have someone like that in the dressing room.
We've all been bemoaning the attitude of footballers in recent weeks. Gabby has always been loyal. It would be a shame to see him in a different shirt.
Not decrying his loyalty, but, playing devil's advocate, when has he had a chance to express that loyalty by turning down an approach from someone else?
Personally I could live with seeing him in another shirt if it meant that we'd signed another Benteke.
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Keep him. If he's fit and in shape, he can be a talismanic presence.
For what it's worth though, my password at work last month was Benteke20 and he was gone within a few days of it expiring and me changing it to Agbonlahor11...
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Another Michael Owen. As soon as the pace deserted him (and a lot of it seemed to be his own making with the timber he has been carrying around), his threat became less and less. This was quickly picked up by other teams and knew they did not have to defend so deep. Hence, I believe why a lot more pressure was put on our midfield over the last few years.
I don't think he will be happy playing a bit part role, so I think its time for him to go.
Another Michael Owen? People seem to forget how goo Owen was before the injuries, comparing (if that is what you're doing) him to Agbonlahor is insulting.
I'd let him go. We should ask this question again after he misses a sitter vs Bournemouth.
I'd also like to add that Owen was still quality despite his injuries, he'd adjusted his game due to his reduced pace.
His problem was the injuries just kept coming back.
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Poll added.
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The best we saw of Gabby I think was when he was playing as the lone front man under MON a few season's back. With Ayew and Sinclair either side of him, playing him through the middle in the last 20 minutes of games might be an idea. I don't think he's cut out to play as a wide man anymore. Keep.
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Keep him. If he's fit and in shape, he can be a talismanic presence.
For what it's worth though, my password at work last month was Benteke20 and he was gone within a few days of it expiring and me changing it to Agbonlahor11...
Do you work for a bank by any chance? And if so which one and where do you sit at work?
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Gabby's not going anywhere. The injury has really screwed him though, which is in a very unfortunate way good for us. That is, he wasn't doing us any favours being in the starting line up, and by the time he gets back he won't be a first team player. He'll at most be on the bench which is where can be effective. You never want to wish injury on your own, but this will in likelihood give the side a chance to move on. It may also set in place the next stage of his career.
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I think he's under-appreciated by Villa fans.
He's been around such a long time that he's nothing new any more, we're used to him and his style of play. Opposition defenders still don't like playing against him and he's useful to mix it up.
Plus he scores when you least expect him to and important goals at that.
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Keep. Review in 12 months time.
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A front-line striker that has scored 33 goals in his last 5 seasons (164 appearances) Averageing 6.6 goals per season over the last 5? See ya!
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The best we saw of Gabby I think was when he was playing as the lone front man under MON a few season's back. With Ayew and Sinclair either side of him, playing him through the middle in the last 20 minutes of games might be an idea. I don't think he's cut out to play as a wide man anymore. Keep.
He played up front on his own against Albion last season and did well. I'd be perfectly happy to have him as a squad option, but he would be an expensive squad option considering the money he is reputedly on.
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Somewhat pointless question really. Is it 3 years he has left on his contract. He doesn't go anywhere unless he specifically wants to go.
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Keep. He was instrumental in our upsurge in form until he got injured and easy to forget we were worried post Tottenham as he was looking bright and lively. Sherwood was also waxing lyrical about him. I think he's vital, or at least a wanted cog, in the Sherwood up tempo system that he is keen to deploy. He scores important goals and never minds whichever position he is asked to play, even if it doesn't fit into his style of play. He has played wide, had to do a lot of back tracking, played the lone furrow by running the channels, worked with a similar sized player although none of that is his game. feeding off Young's crosses and playing off Carew saw him at his best. Playing the lone man but the way we used Benteke a,lso gave him the chance to play on the shoulder but his pace have made manager after manager misuse him. It was only O'Neill he saw the best way to play him.
I'm with you on this.
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Keep
At the very minimum i'd like to see that Sinclair and Ayew are good to enough to perform at the required level before deciding Gabbys future
Sinclair didn't pull up any major trees last year and we don't know anything about Ayew
Current Gabby is good enough to be a very good bench option, if he can recapture form through finally having his place genuinely under threat then hes more than good enough to start
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I totally agree that he's not someone you can build a team around but he may prove useful later in the season when injuries and suspensions take their toll.
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On his day, he can be brilliant. That day seems to happen less frequently every season, though, which is a shame.
I'd get rid. I actually think it would be best for both club and player, he strikes me as settled into a rut, and a real symbol of the acceptance of mediocrity of the last four or five years. Similarly the change of scenery might spur him on to better things.
I wonder what sort of team would be in for him, if we were to make him available?
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Sadly I have to say let go. Has been on the decline since MON left, in fact over the last 5 seasons in the Prem he has averaged only 5 goals a season, simply not good enough. Not only is goal threat very poor, his touch these days is dreadful. Has about 1 decent game in 10, nowhere near Premier League quality now.
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Heart says keep ,head says sell ,if we can get decent price ganything over 6 Mill
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As a goal threat , he starting to push Heskey, only Emile contributed more to the team.
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Keep him. If he's fit and in shape, he can be a talismanic presence.
This. Hopefully all his niggles will have been resolved over the summer and we'll finally have a fully fit, injury free Gabby back to fight for a starting place.
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I'd keep him. As an impact sub he could be great, and maybe not playing for negative managers we may see a bit more of the unplayable Gabby. Another crap season from him though and dump him quicker than I do last night's Madras.
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Who'd buy him?
You'd be surprised. If Conor Wickham can carve out a top flight career beyond just one club then just about anyone can.
As far as I can recall in all his time at Aston Villa I can only remember one other club showing an interest in him and that was Arsenal. This was some years ago and it came to nothing. As he was given a four year contract with the blessing of Paul Lambert,on I would assume good money, he would be very reluctant to leave his safe haven.
We might as well use him as an impact sub for the last thirty mins if the match is slippling away from us.
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Why is he the only one still here? oh yeah, he's Mr Loyal.
I'd keep him, he doesn't score a lot or assist much these days but who cares about stats.
He's Villa through & through' and 'Part of the furniture' after all.
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Get rid...
Whats he gonna acheive in the last 20-30 mins of match anyway that he couldnt have done at the start....(other teams tired legs I hear you say???). He's a striker that doesnt score goals or even provide assists... its been quite a few years since he's scared any premiership defenders as well..
He gets so much leeway it cus he's Villa its untrue.... IMO he's not a very good footballer
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On his day, he can be brilliant. That day seems to happen less frequently every season, though, which is a shame.
I'd get rid. I actually think it would be best for both club and player, he strikes me as settled into a rut, and a real symbol of the acceptance of mediocrity of the last four or five years. Similarly the change of scenery might spur him on to better things.
I wonder what sort of team would be in for him, if we were to make him available?
Sums up my feelings, almost to a tee, especially being the poster boy for our mediocrity.
I can't honestly see anyone in the PL making him an offer apart from Watford, unless Norwich offload van Wolfswinkel.
Think about the other squads and who he's going to displace.
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Another crap season from him though and dump him quicker than I do last night's Madras.
And as others have said, who would take him? They certainly wouldn't pay him anywhere near the wedge he is on now, especially if he's had another crap season, or even if he's spent most of it in a Recaro.
I'm pretty sure he would see out his contract and go on a free to maximise his salary elsewhere.
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Another crap season from him though and dump him quicker than I do last night's Madras.
And as others have said, who would take him? They certainly wouldn't pay him anywhere near the wedge he is on now, especially if he's had another crap season, or even if he's spent most of it in a Recaro.
I'm pretty sure he would see out his contract and go on a free to maximise his salary elsewhere.
I'm sure someone would take him, but you're absolutely right re the wages. I can't imagine he's one of our lower earners.
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Another crap season from him though and dump him quicker than I do last night's Madras.
And as others have said, who would take him? They certainly wouldn't pay him anywhere near the wedge he is on now, especially if he's had another crap season, or even if he's spent most of it in a Recaro.
I'm pretty sure he would see out his contract and go on a free to maximise his salary elsewhere.
I'm sure someone would take him, but you're absolutely right re the wages. I can't imagine he's one of our lower earners.
I reckon he is close if not our top earner at the club.
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Another crap season from him though and dump him quicker than I do last night's Madras.
And as others have said, who would take him? They certainly wouldn't pay him anywhere near the wedge he is on now, especially if he's had another crap season, or even if he's spent most of it in a Recaro.
I'm pretty sure he would see out his contract and go on a free to maximise his salary elsewhere.
I'm sure someone would take him, but you're absolutely right re the wages. I can't imagine he's one of our lower earners.
I reckon he is close if not our top earner at the club.
It wouldn't surprise me at all. I'd imagine he was already one of the highest earners while MON was still here.
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I vote keep him, though I wouldn't be heartbroken to seem him depart.
In many ways, I can see the logic of a clean break for him and us.
There have been far too many games in the last few years where he has just coasted. That said, even last season, his performance in the Olbiyun game was critical to our season.
In a more attack minded side, and on the proviso that he skips a meal or two, he could still have a role to play.
Shouldn't be a guaranteed starter, though.
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Wolves level. Get rid.
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im sure gabby was given a 4 year deal at the same time lambert got his.
i would get rid but cant see anyone matching his current wage so he aint going anywhere
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If he's content to play as a sub and stay with the club, I think he should stay. If he wants to start elsewhere, we should allow it. He's grown up with the club and is our all-time leader in PL goals. As much as everyone jumped on Delph for lack of loyalty, it would be a bit hypocritical of us to chase Gabby out the door because he can't throw up 10 goals a season anymore.
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I'm sure Gabby would be content staying and picking up £60k p/w for the next 3 years, but we aren't a retirement home for footballers who are past it (despite last years transfers). Delph has nothing to do with it, the majority of the anger stems from him messing around not the fact he's left. If we didn't offer Gabby a contract, then did, then withdrew it I'd expect him to be pissed off and feel played around.
If we are going to finish anywhere near 10th again we can't have a forward that scores a handful and assists nothing. Big season for Gabby another poor return and he needs moving on.
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I'd let him go or loan him out to see if that gets him contributing again. You've got to have all 11 players contributing to compete in the premier league these days. To have just one passenger on the pitch makes a difference. And as for being an impact sub, really?
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can we change the poll to gabby or Adama Traore
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Gabby with be in the same position as most of the squad, he'll have to earn his place in the team and then perform to keep it.
He could be useful in some away matches where we are pressed back, that's when he can be at his best.
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If he's content to play as a sub and stay with the club, I think he should stay. If he wants to start elsewhere, we should allow it. He's grown up with the club and is our all-time leader in PL goals. As much as everyone jumped on Delph for lack of loyalty, it would be a bit hypocritical of us to chase Gabby out the door because he can't throw up 10 goals a season anymore.
I appreciate the argument re showing him some loyalty, but I'd argue we've done that with his last (possibly 2) contract renewals in the face of ever diminishing returns.
The highlighted bit is exactly why he shouldn't be anywhere near the team.
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Loyalty goes both ways. I remember when Gabby was playing excellently and being urged to leave us to further his career by the top five obsessed media. He stayed, has never wavered in his commitment. He may increasingly become an impact sub I don't know but last season he still showed on his day he is more than capable of terrorizing defenders. I just wish he would cut out the diving and playing for the foul part of his game, he is better than that, if he stayed on his feet more often he would score more.
So yeah, stay for me but I hope he ups his game.
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I would keep just incase our new look team give much better services and use his ability much more effectively. I don't think other team will want to buy him. Just don't give him a new contract unless he really earned it.
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Just for his loyalty and being a fan watching from the holte end, he should be kept.
Yes, he unfortunately has never really reached the potential I wished upon him, but claret and blue runs through his veins.
Keep him on the bench and he may be a super sub.
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Keep but first time this year he really should be just a sub and occasional starter which is his level now.
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keep. get him back to using pace, and don't give him time to think and he can score goals.
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Another crap season from him though and dump him quicker than I do last night's Madras.
And as others have said, who would take him? They certainly wouldn't pay him anywhere near the wedge he is on now, especially if he's had another crap season, or even if he's spent most of it in a Recaro.
I'm pretty sure he would see out his contract and go on a free to maximise his salary elsewhere.
I'm sure someone would take him, but you're absolutely right re the wages. I can't imagine he's one of our lower earners.
I reckon he is close if not our top earner at the club.
It wouldn't surprise me at all. I'd imagine he was already one of the highest earners while MON was still here.
Well according to the Mail he took a pay-cut in his latest contract.
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We'll be keeping him then, just been announced as club Captain, with Richards as team skipper. Oh well, let's hope it gives him a kick up the arse, although it hasn't before.
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I think Gabby has had an easy ride and has always been picked. Now there's more competition and a less forgiving manager. He needs to up his game and I reckon he will. (crosses fingers)
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Just for his loyalty and being a fan watching from the holte end, he should be kept.
Yes, he unfortunately has never really reached the potential I wished upon him, but claret and blue runs through his veins.
Keep him on the bench and he may be a super sub.
Being a fan watching from the Holte? Really?
It's well documented that as a boy Gabby never went to Villa Park, never stood/sat in the Holte and actually he supported Arsenal.
Yes he has been loyal to the team that has made him a millionaire for an ever diminishing return over the past 5 seasons. He doesn't want to leave because no other team would put up with it.
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"Can't change a game" have seen him do this numerous times.
"His work rate and attitude have been questioned" by whom? Not the greatest finisher, but attitude and work rate 1 st class."Diminishing returns have coincided with key injuires (a nightmare for a player who relies on pace) a lack of supply and some of the most shockingly negative football I have ever seen. Don't see how he could have scored when the ball was constantly being played backwards.
Hopefully he' ll get some decent ball and convert into goals.
Finally, imperative to keep him to keep the moaning twat who stands near to us happy.
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Keep him, he's the only one that knows where the ground is.
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jam tomorrow lol
if he's fit
if he gets service
if the other players are better
if the dog hadnt eaten his homework
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Keep
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Gabby's biggest downfall was the absurd advice he took about bulking up in the gym. Once he became muscle bound his pace and seemingly any control of the football was lost. He now has Heskesque trapping ability with his 2nd touch usually being a tackle. The game against Man city some years ago and his hatrick he was unplayable then. Sadly gets off with a lot of stick due to his ability to turn it on in local Derbies. I am sure he will play apart this season and seasons to come - just hope he is not the first name on the sheet - impact player now at best
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If we were going to get rid of him we should have done so 2-3 years ago. We'd get very little for him now. Besides he does make me laugh, the Ashley Young shoulder tap being one of the funniest moments on a football pitch, not up there with Balotelli vs the training bib, but...
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If we were going to get rid of him we should have done so 2-3 years ago. We'd get very little for him now. Besides he does make me laugh, the Ashley Young shoulder tap being one of the funniest moments on a football pitch, not up there with Balotelli vs the training bib, but...
just googled that ...pmsl
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If Carlsberg did gormless football players...Gabby Agbonlahor.
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If we were going to get rid of him we should have done so 2-3 years ago. We'd get very little for him now. Besides he does make me laugh, the Ashley Young shoulder tap being one of the funniest moments on a football pitch, not up there with Balotelli vs the training bib, but...
just googled that ...pmsl
Ashley Young bird poo is the best.
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I think Gabby has had an easy ride and has always been picked. Now there's more competition and a less forgiving manager. He needs to up his game and I reckon he will. (crosses fingers)
I think the fans would have criticised Gabby far more, and far earlier, if it were not for him being "one of us"
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"Can't change a game" have seen him do this numerous times.
"His work rate and attitude have been questioned" by whom? Not the greatest finisher, but attitude and work rate 1 st class."Diminishing returns have coincided with key injuires (a nightmare for a player who relies on pace) a lack of supply and some of the most shockingly negative football I have ever seen. Don't see how he could have scored when the ball was constantly being played backwards.
Hopefully he' ll get some decent ball and convert into goals.
Finally, imperative to keep him to keep the moaning twat who stands near to us happy.
have you seen him at all during the last 2 seasons?
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Although Gabby is considered an unintelligent footballer on the pitch nearly every manager seemingly picks him and I wonder if it is due to the following reasons
* He seemingly carries out Managers instructions to the letter - never going "off tactics"
* He tracks back and is seen to work his nads off doing what Managers call "Ugly work"
* He is a big influencer in the dressing room cliques with players listening to him so Manager keep him on board
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The suggestion very early on in pre season was that he was on fire and had struck up a good raport with Gil. I wouldn't write him off just yet. Especially having sold so many others we could do with some stability
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The suggestion very early on in pre season was that he was on fire and had struck up a good raport with Gil. I wouldn't write him off just yet. Especially having sold so many others we could do with some stability
We haven't seen any proof of this though have we? Has he scored any in pre season at all, I can't remember. It sounds like your normal managerial pre game stuff guff about so and so is on fire, banging them in in training blah blah.
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I'm sorry but I have literally no idea what he has to do to get dropped. Offers absolutely nothing in my opinion.
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I'm sorry but I have literally no idea what he has to do to get dropped. Offers absolutely nothing in my opinion.
Some have been saying that for a good while.
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Let go. I'm sorry, but he's fucking shite. I can forgive the new players for taking time to settle in, but Gabby just hasn't been anywhere near good enough for far too long now.
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Seems to be getting worse. He still looks overweight and he looks slower than ever now. Where has his pace gone?
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I think he has become an embarrassment. That may seem strong, but I can't think of a better way to describe him at the moment.
He contributes nothing at all. He doesn't even appear to work hard anymore
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Seems to be getting worse. He still looks overweight and he looks slower than ever now. Where has his pace gone?
E's gorra go Tom.
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Gabby with no pace is Championship at best. Whats the point of him?
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I honestly thought by signing 10 players it would give him a kick up the arse but he is just awful. The modern day Darius.
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I honestly thought by signing 10 players it would give him a kick up the arse but he is just awful. The modern day Darius.
Danesh?
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The big concern is he seems to get worse each season. For all the excuses of negative managers, played out of position etc, since Pubehead left he's been wank under every manager regardless of position. Managing a few good games a season, if we're lucky, doesn't justify the millions he's earning and a regular starter. He's actually starting to annoy me now.
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An empty shirt today. Offered nothing. Nary has there been a luckier player to stay on the pitch for 90 minutes.
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It's beyond me how he gets anywhere near the starting eleven, his pathetic facial hair is reason enough to get rid.
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He's not even running at players that much. Occasionally he does it and gets a little joy, as he did against Bournemouth. I honestly think because of his injuries over the last 5 years, he has to ration his surging runs. It's not like under Pubehead when he'd often be at full pelt, attacking defenders all game. Even if his all round play and finishing was erratic he'd still be winning plenty of freekicks and territory up the pitch. But now he offers very little. 4-5 good runs a game (if we're lucky) and rarely looks remotely like scoring.
Get rid. He should be anywhere near the 18. Ayew is a younger version with a bit more skill. Let him settle and take Gabby's place. And we've got Traore too now.
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He should be nowhere near the starting line up. I'm not really sure why he stayed on and Sinclair came off.
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I think it was right that he had a chance to stake a claim in the new look villa, but he failed his audition and returns are rapidly diminishing.
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"Keep" or "let go"?
Fucking boot out*
*Je dois avouer que ce soir j'ai bien "reniflé le tablier de la serveuse".
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He's not far off donkey status now. I find it astonishing that the last 3 managers are so compelled to play him. Even Tim Sherwood who i thought had a mind of his own is following suit. Is he being paid too much to not play maybe?
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I assume even he can't keep Traore out of the side
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I assume even he can't keep Traore out of the side
It will probably be Sinclair who makes way for Traore.
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I thought Sinclair was growing into the game just as he got the hook. Gabby however, one header on target, was very poor. Bench him please.
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We have still to pay £8.5 mil in wages for that shit over the course of his remaining contract.
One lucky bar steward.
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If I get a transfer offer for Agbonlahor, I would sell him asap. He is not a football player.
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no one will come in for him - we're stuck with him
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Smethwick might think he will increase their pace by 300 percent.
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Smethwick might think he will increase their pace by 300 percent.
Joe Cole would do that.
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We have still to pay £8.5 mil in wages for that shit over the course of his remaining contract.
One lucky bar steward.
Yes that decision to give him his bumper new contract was yet another horrendous move from McThickie. Thanks Paul you doughnut.
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If I get a transfer offer for Agbonlahor, I would sell him asap. He is not a football player.
He never has been. He was an athlete with some football coaching on top.
Now that his athleticism is fading he's a pedestrian with some football coaching on top.
I remember discussing Gabby with some friends after the Blackburn semi. The consensus was that if he had 50% of Yorke's football intelligence and vision, even without the same level of technical ability as Yorke he'd be true international class.
The lost years where he was more interested in athletics than football as a youngster are starting to shine through.
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I thought Souness was going to lay into him but just left it as a comment about Gabby looking back on his career in a few years and thinking what might have been.
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My take on Gabby is that he is effective when used properly. Since MON he has been starved of any proper service from midfeld . As Sherwood has made him club captain I think he appreciates the fact that he has remained loyal to the club during some of the grimmest seasons we have had to endure.
I dont think this would be the best time to allow a player of his experience leave the club.
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I think we should keep him as a squad player only.
What I can't get beyond though is that all of our recent managers see the same mediocrity that we do yet he still keeps getting picked - he can't have compromising photos of all of them surely ?
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He did far more than Ayew tonight.
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With most decent players, you need to be able to rely on them to do a certain (positive) thing with some form of regularity.
What does Gabby do that fits that description?
Waste of space.
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He did far more than Ayew tonight.
How many premier league games has Ayew played, and how many has Gabby played?
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If we made him available tomorrow, which top flight teams do we think would be interested?
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He did far more than Ayew tonight.
No, he really didn't. Neither were great to be fair but Gabby offers less and less as the seasons go by. A fat bloke with a moustache. That is all.
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I wouldn't even keep him as a squad player. He's completely finished at this level and has been for a few years now.
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We're crying out for a centre forward. Gabby simply isn't it.
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My mate who is a big Hibs fans said he is a great clubman, is it because no one else wanted him? He offers sod all to the team now
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Clubman of the year. You know that Sunday league clubs feel obliged to award to the general dogs body that arranges the kits to be washed each week etc. yes gabby suits that.
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He did far more than Ayew tonight.
I can at least remember Ayew with the ball a couple of times. I can't remember Gabby touching it
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Well he can probably be rested v palace as we will have Traore and Grealish back
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I'd like to change my vote. His time is done here.
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Hopefully, once Gestedt is fit, he won't playing up front. He shouldn't make the team as an attacking wide midfielder ahead of Sinclair, Traore, Ayew, Gil or Grealish. It's marginal whether he deserves a place ahead of N'Zogbia.
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Let him go, let him go.
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Realistically, who'd have him? And I'm not being funny either. His scoring record is absolutely D.ogshit
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I'd like to change my vote. His time is done here.
The option is there to remove your vote, and then vote again.
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Realistically, who'd have him? And I'm not being funny either. His scoring record is absolutely D.ogshit
It's a perfectly valid point. I don't think he is good enough to get into any team in the division
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I wish Norwich would come in for him.
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I'd like to change my vote. His time is done here.
The option is there to remove your vote, and then vote again.
Cheers. Interestingly the vote is now 50-50.
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Realistically, who'd have him? And I'm not being funny either. His scoring record is absolutely D.ogshit
It's a perfectly valid point. I don't think he is good enough to get into any team in the division
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Sunderland would snap him up surely?
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Sunderland would snap him up surely?
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I am the 141st voter. And push him over into the 'go', category. It's nothing to be proud of, but I feel he doesn't contribute what a striker should do.
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A great scapegoat, not sure he has it at this level but e was not the worst player on show tonight.
No idea why he played longer than Sinclair.
Ayew and Bacuna were worse than Gabby tonight,
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A great scapegoat, not sure he has it at this level but e was not the worst player on show tonight.
No idea why he played longer than Sinclair.
Ayew and Bacuna were worse than Gabby tonight,
Ayes was poor last night but I thought Bacuna had a decent game.
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A great scapegoat, not sure he has it at this level but e was not the worst player on show tonight.
No idea why he played longer than Sinclair.
Ayew and Bacuna were worse than Gabby tonight,
Ayes was poor last night but I thought Bacuna had a decent game.
Bacna was poor defensively and offered nothing offensively, maybe not his fault as he is not a right back.
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Been a good player for us and Villa fan obviously too, time's passed him by now though. Cheerio gabby - you could have, but didn't make it to legend status at Villa.
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No he was much worse than Ayew.
You could see that Ayew was not answering the questions correctly; he needs to pick up the pace of the game, but the evidence of his working outs puts him ahead of Gabby, who is, sadly, brainless.
Gabby was playing in his 10th season here and he still doesn't know how to move off the ball or make a run that doesn't demand the midfielder to put it through the eye of a needle. Gabby is in his 10th season and still can't anticipate a pace or a cross. Poor Jordan Amavi put in the cross of the night, to nobody, because Gabby can't anticipate night following day it would seem.
Ayew, for all the extra time he wanted but was never going to get, moved into space with a lot more intelligence and at 23 and with probably only just about a game and 50 minutes under his belt, I will let him off.
Sadly I can't make excuses for Gabby any longer. His goals dried up half a decade ago, unfortunately, like N'Zogbia, his excessive wages prohibit shipping him out.
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Let him go, have no idea why he played on when Sinclair seemed to be growing into the game. Poor excuse for a footballer who passed his prime a long time ago
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In the second half , Ayew picked up the ball in the left half position - and looked up to play a pass - down the wing .
Under 10s footballers would know that as a striker you make yourself available by running into the channel for the pass.
Gabby instead - played his usual part by marking his defender - he hardly moved out of the middle two stripes of mowed grass on the pitch all game.
The M6 had more intelligent movement on the night.
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Been a good player for us and Villa fan obviously too, time's passed him by now though. Cheerio gabby - you could have, but didn't make it to legend status at Villa.
Apparently Agbonlahor has confirmed he was an Arsenal fan as a boy and the suggestion is he never stood on the terraces at all especially at the Holte End. Its all a myth. We should be grateful for the goals he scored in local derbies and hope some lower level club will take him on. But he was given a long contract and I fear we will never get rid of him.
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He is starting to look a little bit past it now which is a shame. Sinclair on the opposite side to Traore with maybe Ayew or whoever through the middle may be the way forward.
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I agree Clampy. He looks a little bit out of his depth now.
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Gabby could be the last remaining vestige of 'Thickie Villa' - the dimbo goofball-hoofball troupe of foul-throwers and last-minute match losers, crammed with well-meaning simpletons and all-round honest dullards, led by the arch-halfwit Paul "I just do" Lambert, who was so thick you could insulate the Large Hadron Collider with him.
Let Gabby go, and let's look forward to a brighter, savvier, smarter Villa.
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Gabby, who is, sadly, brainless.
The urge to shout run, Forrest, run is great.
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Has there ever been a player who as got thicker with age?
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Brainless footballers bombshell. Whatever next.
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Brainless footballers bombshell. Whatever next.
On the pitch I mean.
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Gabby could be the last remaining vestige of 'Thickie Villa' - the dimbo goofball-hoofball troupe of foul-throwers and last-minute match losers, crammed with well-meaning simpletons and all-round honest dullards, led by the arch-halfwit Paul "I just do" Lambert, who was so thick you could insulate the Large Hadron Collider with him.
Let Gabby go, and let's look forward to a brighter, savvier, smarter Villa.
Love it.
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Tim Sherwood believes Gabby Agbonlahor can have his "best season yet" in claret and blue next term.
Agbonlahor has impressed Sherwood in pre-season with his form and attitude.
Sherwood thinks Agbonlahor has the ability to have a top campaign as he spoke of the pace ace really working on his fitness, after double sessions out in Portugal.
He said: "Gabby is looking really sharp.
"It's good for him to get a pre-season at a really high intensity like I want.
"He is getting that at the moment.
"He is shredding weight and why shouldn't he have the best season he's ever had?
"He's no age. 28. If we can get him fit then he can offer that real threat in behind people with energy.
"He scored six last year.
"We only scored 31 and Gabby's six were vital for us."
As previously stated I very much doubt Tim Sherwood shares the opinions expressed by several on here.
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Well he wasn't exactly going to say 'yeah, he's shit, stupid, useless and pointless. Is this thing on?'
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And then select him twice to really throw you iff the scent,
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Keep or let go? He has about 3.5 years left of 4 year contract he signed recently at about 40K/week so even if we wanted we can not. Best is to keep here this season as backup and loan out to Walsall for the remaining term.
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Tim Sherwood believes Gabby Agbonlahor can have his "best season yet" in claret and blue next term.
Going to stick a tenner on Burnley for promotion in that case.
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Gabby could be the last remaining vestige of 'Thickie Villa' - the dimbo goofball-hoofball troupe of foul-throwers and last-minute match losers, crammed with well-meaning simpletons and all-round honest dullards, led by the arch-halfwit Paul "I just do" Lambert, who was so thick you could insulate the Large Hadron Collider with him.
Let Gabby go, and let's look forward to a brighter, savvier, smarter Villa.
Very eloquently put.
The fact is Gabby has never been all that, little more than a speed merchant with the odd instinctive finish. Yes he got some key goals in derbies etc. but who's to say someone in his place might not have got just as many of those plus a whole shitload more besides. He has always lacked the anticipatory movement, the runs to take defenders out of the way, the awareness of the bigger picture, and, frankly, the technique to be a top PL forward. He always seems to be on his heels when he should be on his toes. He might be a local lad but tat's a red herring, totally irrelevant. I don't care if we field 9 Martians an Albion fan and a Venutian in goal as long as they are the best we can put out.
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Tim Sherwood believes Gabby Agbonlahor can have his "best season yet" in claret and blue next term.
Agbonlahor has impressed Sherwood in pre-season with his form and attitude.
Sherwood thinks Agbonlahor has the ability to have a top campaign as he spoke of the pace ace really working on his fitness, after double sessions out in Portugal.
He said: "Gabby is looking really sharp.
"It's good for him to get a pre-season at a really high intensity like I want.
"He is getting that at the moment.
"He is shredding weight and why shouldn't he have the best season he's ever had?
"He's no age. 28. If we can get him fit then he can offer that real threat in behind people with energy.
"He scored six last year.
"We only scored 31 and Gabby's six were vital for us."
As previously stated I very much doubt Tim Sherwood shares the opinions expressed by several on here.
Isn't Sherwood saying here that Gabby is overweight and unfit?
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Gabby seems to be made a bit of a scapegoat for last night but I've said it before, he's at his best when he's got a winger whipping in crosses for him. When was the last time we had a decent winger at Villa? Look at all the wasted set pieces from last night as well. It's a bit unfair on him I think.
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Gabby seems to be made a bit of a scapegoat for last night but I've said it before, he's at his best when he's got a winger whipping in crosses for him. When was the last time we had a decent winger at Villa? Look at all the wasted set pieces from last night as well. It's a bit unfair on him I think.
The problem with that, S_H, is that we became the most predictable team in the league when we relied on getting it wide and getting in crosses. If that's all Gabby can do well with, then that's not really enough.
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Gabby could be the last remaining vestige of 'Thickie Villa' - the dimbo goofball-hoofball troupe of foul-throwers and last-minute match losers, crammed with well-meaning simpletons and all-round honest dullards, led by the arch-halfwit Paul "I just do" Lambert, who was so thick you could insulate the Large Hadron Collider with him.
Let Gabby go, and let's look forward to a brighter, savvier, smarter Villa.
Love it.
Just catching up.
This made me laugh.
A lot.
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Gabby seems to be made a bit of a scapegoat for last night but I've said it before, he's at his best when he's got a winger whipping in crosses for him. When was the last time we had a decent winger at Villa? Look at all the wasted set pieces from last night as well. It's a bit unfair on him I think.
2010/11 under Houllier, where he scored 5 in 32 appearances with Downing and Young out wide, one of which was in the quarter final defeat to the great unwashed, so 4 in the league, of which just 1 was before Bent arrived.
The season where he was the sole focal point of the attack, as he had been under his best spells under MON
The season where we out and bought ourselves an £18M pound Christmas present to put the ball in the net more consistently playing the same system.
The season where he scores more (3) with Bent in the team than before (2), so it's not as though Bent was robbing him of opportunities. I.e. he'd scored 1 league goal up to the middle of January.
The season where Emile Heskey scored more (6) from fewer appearances (25)
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Gabby seems to be made a bit of a scapegoat for last night but I've said it before, he's at his best when he's got a winger whipping in crosses for him. When was the last time we had a decent winger at Villa? Look at all the wasted set pieces from last night as well. It's a bit unfair on him I think.
The problem with that, S_H, is that we became the most predictable team in the league when we relied on getting it wide and getting in crosses. If that's all Gabby can do well with, then that's not really enough.
Predictable or not, we were a better team when when we had wingers. We've played too narrow for a number of years now and look at our results!
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Gabby seems to be made a bit of a scapegoat for last night but I've said it before, he's at his best when he's got a winger whipping in crosses for him. When was the last time we had a decent winger at Villa? Look at all the wasted set pieces from last night as well. It's a bit unfair on him I think.
The problem with that, S_H, is that we became the most predictable team in the league when we relied on getting it wide and getting in crosses. If that's all Gabby can do well with, then that's not really enough.
Predictable or not, we were a better team when when we had wingers. We've played too narrow for a number of years now and look at our results!
See above post for year when we last played with 2 wingers.
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I agree we need to play with more width, but not with the aim of just bunting in crosses. Width stretches defences, but if they know the cross is coming then they just bunch back into the box and wait. No, I'm excited about seeing Traore wide on the right and cutting inside, or playing passes into space.
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He summed me up against Bournemouth with that shit back pass shot after the run.
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I am amazed managers keep picking him for the team or giving him new contract.
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I am astounded so many people would keep him. Everytime I see him in a villa shirt I die a little inside.
Then there's the tash...
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I think he should go.
Ultimately, he is not Premier League standard anymore. The game has moved on, but Gabby has not moved on with it and he now looks totally unsuited to the modern PL.
The only reason for keeping him would be that he manages to score against our local rivals, but that is an expensive luxury.
Send him on a free to a Championship club like Derby. He can help them in their promotion push, bag a few goals and hopefully plenty against B-lose.
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Gabby seems to be made a bit of a scapegoat for last night but I've said it before, he's at his best when he's got a winger whipping in crosses for him. When was the last time we had a decent winger at Villa? Look at all the wasted set pieces from last night as well. It's a bit unfair on him I think.
Scapegoat implies he's blameless and being picked on unfairly. He's not. It's not just the last few games,or even the last couple of seasons. The same points have been made about his limitations pretty much since he broke into the team. They just seem more obvious now he's older and a bit slower, and there are a few seasons'worth of fairly damning stats to back it up.
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He does look about a stone overweight to me. His asset is his speed and I think he needs to get fitter.
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I like the lad, sorry but I do.
Not much as a footballer, although he has had his moments.
I would never belittle him, he is a true villan and he obviously loves the club to bits.
I think TS making him club captain was a nice move, but we will see his playing time reduce drastically as the season unfolds.
I for one, hope we see him around villa for years to come in whatever role they deem fit, he is a good un, just like Taylor, Dublin, Hendrie etc.
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I'm not sure that i'd get rid of him but he shouldn't be starting games now we've got other options.
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Gabby seems to be made a bit of a scapegoat for last night but I've said it before, he's at his best when he's got a winger whipping in crosses for him. When was the last time we had a decent winger at Villa? Look at all the wasted set pieces from last night as well. It's a bit unfair on him I think.
Scapegoat implies he's blameless and being picked on unfairly. He's not. It's not just the last few games,or even the last couple of seasons. The same points have been made about his limitations pretty much since he broke into the team. They just seem more obvious now he's older and a bit slower, and there are a few seasons'worth of fairly damning stats to back it up.
The most damming of all being that if you take Gabby's defenders stance that we don't play to his strengths anymore, as S_H describes and go back the last season we played that way which I reckon was under Houllier with Downing/Young/Albrighton playing wide, you discover that Gabby managed 5 goals in 32 games and was outscored by Ivanhoe with 6 in 25!
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All this Gabby bashing is all well and good, but we're hardly awash with decent forward players at the moment. I'm all for shipping players out if better replacements arrive, but for now, why don't we just get behind him?
As for being overweight, yeah right.
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I think Ayew is earmarked as his replacement, and if things are panning out as Sherwood hopes Gabby will be available come January or next summer.
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Seeing that we were largely lumping the ball up front I'm not sure what was expected from Gabby. We struggled as a team to get the forward players properly involved and Gabby still did a lot of donkey work in dropping deep or looking to run the channels. That the tram failed to use the ball well enough with the forwards is barely a stick to beat Gabby with.
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Gabby ? has frustrated a Significant number of fans for the last few seasons, which have been mostly spent near the bottom of the league. I would like too think he will improve if the team improve, I just don't know.
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I would like too think he will improve if the team improve,
I would like him to improve, thus improving he team.
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I wish he'd start showing he loves the club because I don't see too many signs of it.
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I think he will get a few more starts under sherwood and he will need to deliver the goods or I can see patience wearing thin.
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He's had an easy ride for far too long. I would like him to have a much harder time get into the side, with our new signings and Gil/Grealish, that might start happening. That he's club captain and Richards is team captain suggests he's not a guaranteed starter.
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I really don't understand some fans. ::)
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He gets more stick than anyone. I think it's because he's so brilliant in his occasional blinders people hold it against him when he's average. Seems strange to me that some players get a pass for being in a crap side that has hardly attacked for five years, but not a striker/winger who is detailed half the time to help our full-back or pick up the other team's deep-lying playmaker.*
*For those of you who wonder why managers keep picking him,
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Not sure many attacking players got a much of a pass (potential pun not intended), Weimann and Zog got/get loads of stick. As did Bent. Even Benteke at stages last season. Delph, Westwood and Cleverley also copped it for lack of goals/assists etc.
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Not sure many attacking players got a much of a pass (potential pun not intended), Weimann and Zog got/get loads of stick. As did Bent. Even Benteke at stages last season. Delph, Westwood and Cleverley also copped it for lack of goals/assists etc.
I was thinking more about on here, where abuse of him just pops up on unrelated topics.
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I have nothing against Gabby, I think at times he's been unplayable and it's undeniable that he's scored some seriously important goals down the years but I just don't see where he fits any more. He doesn't score enough goals to play through the middle (his finishing is genuinely terrible, the pass back effort last week after he'd done everything right to that point was truly dire), his crossing is too hit and miss for him to be a suitable option wide and he doesn't have the touch or range of passing to play in the hole, so he only works in 2 up front, which doesn't really suit the rest of the squad. I'm not going to call him lazy though, I think it's an easy label given to strikers who are doing the right thing and staying in position to counter-attack if the ball comes back.
I generally sum up established players by thinking would if I'd be happy if they played for someone else and we were linked with them, and in this case I'd be disappointed and I think most people would agree that it wasn't a great link.
Given the shape of our squad and the formations we have as options I think we can handle 4 strikers, Gestede and Ayew are both new and deserve a chance to adapt to the league/club, Kozak has been out injured for a long time but showed promise before his injury and had a good pre-season so he deserves a chance. That leaves Gabby so for me the real question is do we want to keep Gabby or sign another striker, and the only sensible answer then is that it depends who it is.
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I'd like to wait and see what Gabby does this season. For the first time in ages he has a manager who values him ( club captain) and wants him to do the best he can whilst playing to his strengths.
The team around him has changed as well as the overall philosophy, it seems, so that will help him enormously.
I'm not sure about the value of 'bulking up' v 'thin as a whippet' either way, but I think we'll see what suits him at this point in his career and how far it works, this season.
I really want this to be a cracking season for Gabby and I'm keeping everything crossed.
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Me to Louize, if we play with a more attacking intent that can only benefit Gabby. My fingers and toes are crossed as well that he'll have a good season.
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He gets more stick than anyone. I think it's because he's so brilliant in his occasional blinders people hold it against him when he's average. Seems strange to me that some players get a pass for being in a crap side that has hardly attacked for five years, but not a striker/winger who is detailed half the time to help our full-back or pick up the other team's deep-lying playmaker.*
*For those of you who wonder why managers keep picking him,
A lot of the off the ball work does go unnoticed by most supporters (Westwood being a prime example), but what is clear as day is that his contribution when we have the ball and attacking is what most people see and where Gabby has consistently failed to provide sufficient end product.
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Not consistent enough, he should be a squad player at best. Dont get the hold he seems to have over a succession of managers to keep picking him.
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He gets more stick than anyone. I think it's because he's so brilliant in his occasional blinders people hold it against him when he's average. Seems strange to me that some players get a pass for being in a crap side that has hardly attacked for five years, but not a striker/winger who is detailed half the time to help our full-back or pick up the other team's deep-lying playmaker.*
*For those of you who wonder why managers keep picking him,
A lot of the off the ball work does go unnoticed by most supporters (Westwood being a prime example), but what is clear as day is that his contribution when we have the ball and attacking is what most people see and where Gabby has consistently failed to provide sufficient end product.
The thing is, a midfielder or defender can do the steady 7 out of 10 water carrier job, a defensive player that you don't notice is generally one who's not making mistakes. For an attacking you have to be doing stuff that people notice as well, particularly when you're getting the chances to do so.
If Gabby was never in the box because he was running wide and creating space, or was going deeper and linking play I don't think he'd get too many complaints, it's when we have the ball wide and Gabby is in the middle marking the centre back. It's when he beats 2-3 men and then rolls the ball to a defender or the keeper rather than getting a decent shot off. It's when he runs in behind a fullback and crosses 3-4 feet over the heads of everyone in the box. Those are the reasons people moan about him because he really is so close to being a rvery good player but he just doesn't have the composure or awareness to ever be that player, he just hasn't got the natural instincts and he hasn't been able to use his experience to develop them, that's why he's inconsistent and frustrating.
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I completely agree...but you also missed off that he just doesn't have the intelligence.
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Get rid. Has had a woeful record in front of goal for years now. It seems to me that the only PL side that hasn't sussed him out is Sunderland.
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Gabby to score tomorrow . To quell the noise.
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Keep. He's got nowhere near the goal return you'd expect from a striker but we haven't played him as one for almost all of his Villa career. his record 364 games 84 goals is what you'd expect from an excellent forward. By comparison:
Walcott: 325 81
Townsend: 196 21
Lennon: 421 33
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Keep. He's got nowhere near the goal return you'd expect from a striker but we haven't played him as one for almost all of his Villa career. his record 364 games 84 goals is what you'd expect from an excellent forward. By comparison:
Walcott: 325 81
Townsend: 196 21
Lennon: 421 33
They showed Walcott's stats on SSN the other day and it struck me that they were similar to Gabby's.
I think the merits of playing for Arsenal compared to Villa should also be factored in.
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Keep. He's got nowhere near the goal return you'd expect from a striker but we haven't played him as one for almost all of his Villa career. his record 364 games 84 goals is what you'd expect from an excellent forward. By comparison:
Walcott: 325 81
Townsend: 196 21
Lennon: 421 33
They showed Walcott's stats on SSN the other day and it struck me that they were similar to Gabby's.
I think the merits of playing for Arsenal compared to Villa should also be factored in.
Conversely, I don't think Walcott was really regarded as a goalscorer until the 2010-11 season - up until that point, he was still mostly a winger who didn't really get into goalscoring positions. Since then, his goalscoring record's been substantially better, and that's as someone who rarely gets played centrally.
Gabby's goalscoring record was very decent in his first few seasons, and he also had the tendency to make a couple of bursting runs every game that resulted in good opportunities for someone else. He does neither thing anymore.
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He missed yet another 1 on 1 with the Palace keeper in the first half today. He's now costing us points. Needs to be on the bench at best
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Gabby scored 33 in last 5 seasons and they doubled that , really shit comparison
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He's not going anywhere but he cannot start every week. This is nuts now. Kozak has a really good pre-season and isn't on the bench. I don't understand unless he's that far off match fitness but he's not going to get it sat at home.
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Bench please.
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Will someone please fcukin tell our manager this prick isn't good enough.
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Fuck him off. Useless.
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Unfortunately I think Sherwood has a blind spot with Gabby so I don't think he'll be getting dropped any time soon.
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Impact sub at best now.
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Wise up Tim.
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Fuck him off if we can find a Mug Punter
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I assume the incriminating photos he has are of Randy Lerner.
Doesn't matter who the Manager is, they all play him and he hasn't been good enough for years, not just recently, for years.
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He's a busted flush. And he wasn't much of a flush to begin with.
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Unfortunately I think Sherwood has a blind spot with Gabby so I don't think he'll be getting dropped any time soon.
I think today may be the last straw. Adama hit the ground running and Jack will get his chanes. I think Gabby will eventually get frozen out, but I also think Tim gave gabby this game to prove a point. To both of them. Watching game tape gabby will be pretty embarrassed.
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Given the talk about him on here this week, it's interesting that he should have chosen today to put in what might have been his worst ever performance. He was absolutely horrible. And the worst bit - the manager gave him 97 minutes in which to flaunt his horribleness. Christ, that was tough to watch.
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Gabby scored 33 in last 5 seasons and they doubled that , really shit comparison
Exactly. His league scoring record is atrocious. He's a passenger for weeks on end.
The fact he persists is such a great example of our dreadfully low standards in recent years.
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I fear the only way he'll stop getting starts is if it gets to the point where basically Villa Park as a whole turns on him, which obviously would not be a great look.
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After today. Someone please shoot the useless twat.
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I described him as a Crystal Palace player at best last season. I'm sorry Palace, maybe Bolton?
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How much longer is this bloke going to continue stealing a living at Aston Villa? Does he have something on a senior officials at the club? I said last season that it's almost like he runs the bloody place and calls the shots regardless of who the manager is.
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He's the day-before-yesterday's-man. For Gods sake move him on.
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Without doubt his worst ever game in a Villa shirt today. He did well to get himself into a scoring position but what the hell was he trying to do with just the keeper to beat? AS for the beautiful ball through from Jack, the less said about it the better.
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Its a no brainer...which is pretty apt for a thread about Gabby.
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Possibly my least favourite Clash song appearing on a thread about possibly my least favourite Villa player.
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Pathetic in the first half. Didn't see him in the second half. He has now reached a level of uselessness only previously attained by Emile. Get rid....please.
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Double post.
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I voted to keep him...having serious doubts now
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You can remove and change your vote.
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Gabby scored 33 in last 5 seasons and they doubled that , really shit comparison
actually 24 from 126 games or just about 1 in 5. Central striker is excellent at 1 in 2 wide forward at 1 in 4 like Walcott who also occasionally has been used as central striker as has Gabby. Gabby has contributed 27 assists to Walcott's 23 over that period. Don't understand your criticism. What other wide forwards who you like to compare him to?
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Since he became a regular first teamer, the game has moved on immeasurably.
Unfortunately for him, he has not improved at the same level and now just looks like a sad parody the player he once was.
I wouldn't sell though, just keep as a squad player.
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Having thought about this for a few hours, I've decided that his starting on the right was obviously a genius move to induce their left-sided players into such a snooze that they would forget to mark Adama properly once he came on. Of course, this theory falls down once you realise that he managed to stay on the pitch even after Adama went in.
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Gabby scored 33 in last 5 seasons and they doubled that , really shit comparison
Exactly. His league scoring record is atrocious. He's a passenger for weeks on end.
The fact he persists is such a great example of our dreadfully low standards in recent years.
I should be amazed that they gave him that bumper new contract last year but then I remember it was the chuckle brothers Lambett and Lerner that gave him it so I'm not surprised.
Lambert's fuck ups still haunt us. As for Gabby, Championship at best, same as Wiemann.
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He's got to go! His performance today was diabolical.
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Gabby scored 33 in last 5 seasons and they doubled that , really shit comparison
actually 24 from 126 games or just about 1 in 5. Central striker is excellent at 1 in 2 wide forward at 1 in 4 like Walcott who also occasionally has been used as central striker as has Gabby.
Where are you getting those numbers from? If he has 1 in 2 from playing centrally and 1 in 4 playing wide, how does that make the total less than 1 goal ever 5 games? Where was he playing the rest of the time to bring the average down?
As for Walcott, over the last 126 games he has 45 goals. If Gabby had scored that, I'm pretty sure that he would be cut a fair bit more slack. But he didn't, so he isn't.
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Whoever is our fitness coach needs to have a frank discussion with gabby about his weight, he's a supposed PL footballer yet he has the physique of a Sunday morning pub footballer.
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Since Pubehead left, Gabby has scored 27 goals in 154 league games. Not good enough.
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It's not just his weight though - his finishing is utter pish. That weak effort yesterday and the back pass shot at Bournemouth are clear examples of his inability to take chances. If only he was unable to finish his dinner in the same manner...
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You can remove and change your vote.
Thank you - Done!
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Who are these 81 who want to keep him? I think a visit to Specsavers is urgently needed!
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I don't think we need to sell him at a time when there are so many players new to the league and the country. I do think though we should quickly get to a point where we are using him far less. I can still see a role for him as an impact sub to stretch tiring defenders.
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He did make some decent runs yesterday which caused them problems but like Chris has just said, the time has come where he maybe comes off the bench a bit more rather than him starting.
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Are people defending Gabby? The bloke is useless.
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When Gabby was at his best he was a threat because of his outstanding pace. He's never been a clinical finisher. He gets selected now more because of his willingness to track back diligently and help the team defensively. Since he bulked up he's lost his only weapon, his pace, and consequently should be nothing more than a squad player for us now.
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I'm fed up with him. I'd sooner let Traore have Gabby's old job. He looks twice as quick and full of vigor. Sinclair and Ayew will do a better job too.
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The question is 'keep or let go?'
If the question was 'play or drop?' It may look a bit different.
I'd keep him, but right now he really needs not to be playing.
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Just watched MOTD
Compare Gabbys performance with Calum Wilson, the latters movement and goals were excellent. Pace and power that Gabby hasn't had since 2009.
The shot when clean through was embarrassing. He should have taken it with his left foot. Went for his right when he was off balance. Says it all really about Gabby. Busted flush a long time ago
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I don't think we need to sell him at a time when there are so many players new to the league and the country. I do think though we should quickly get to a point where we are using him far less. I can still see a role for him as an impact sub to stretch tiring defenders.
I don't remember many occasions when he's made an impact coming off the bench to be honest.
Of the succession of managers who've had him available to pick, only Houllier appeared to see through him. Yesterday he was heavily involved in the first half in fairness, but everything he touched went wrong. The second half though was unforgivable. When Palace started to boss us, he hid.
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His performances are now unacceptable. Seriously a decision has to be made on him otherwise we're going into every game handicapped. I hope Sherwood doesn't bottle out of it.
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For those who are saying keep him as an impact sub. Can someone tell me how many times they can remember him making an impact as sub last season?
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For those who are saying keep him as an impact sub. Can someone tell me how many times they can remember him making an impact as sub last season?
The trouble is, unlike some players, he's not cleverer enough to study a game from the bench and spot areas he could potentially exploit and he doesn't adapt well to a game when he comes on (generally from what I've seen of him coming from the bench).
Adama just kept it simple. Spot a gap and go on a pelting run, whilst keeping the ball under control.
With Gabby he'll go on a surge (all too rarely these days, without the same majesty of eye blistering speed of yesteryear) but inevitable that second to last touch takes the ball too far away from him and the chance either goes, or he has to rush a shot.
Why keep Gabby as an impact player when Adama, Ayew or Sinclair could offer everything he does (or did) and maybe a little more?
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Gabby scored 33 in last 5 seasons and they doubled that , really shit comparison
actually 24 from 126 games or just about 1 in 5. Central striker is excellent at 1 in 2 wide forward at 1 in 4 like Walcott who also occasionally has been used as central striker as has Gabby.
Where are you getting those numbers from? If he has 1 in 2 from playing centrally and 1 in 4 playing wide, how does that make the total less than 1 goal ever 5 games? Where was he playing the rest of the time to bring the average down?
As for Walcott, over the last 126 games he has 45 goals. If Gabby had scored that, I'm pretty sure that he would be cut a fair bit more slack. But he didn't, so he isn't.
You have misunderstood. I was suggesting that any central striker scoring every other game ie 20 in a Premier League season would be excellent. As a wide forward a player scoring close to 9 a season is similarly excellent. I don't think that is a controversial suggestion.
As for Walcott I make it 50 from 175 games in all competitions. It's slightly better - but definitely comparable and he's playing for Arsenal. And that is all I was saying. Who else would be a better comparision?
Gabby stats:
Season Apps Goals Assists
2015/2016 3 - -
2014/2015 30(4) 6 1
2013/2014 29(1) 4 5
2012/2013 24(4) 9 3
2011/2012 32(1) 5 5
2010/2011 17(9) 3 1
2009/2010 35(1) 13 3
Total / Av 190 40 18
http://www.whoscored.com/Players/14036/History/Gabriel-Agbonlahor
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For those who are saying keep him as an impact sub. Can someone tell me how many times they can remember him making an impact as sub last season?
I don't think you can judge much from last season. Even Benteke managed not to score for most of it!
I think if he can work on regaining his full pace, then he could be a useful impact sub.
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You have misunderstood. I was suggesting that any central striker scoring every other game ie 20 in a Premier League season would be excellent. As a wide forward a player scoring close to 9 a season is similarly excellent. I don't think that is a controversial suggestion.(1)
As for Walcott I make it 50 from 175 games in all competitions. (2) It's slightly better - but definitely comparable and he's playing for Arsenal. And that is all I was saying. Who else would be a better comparision?
Gabby stats:
Season Apps Goals Assists
2015/2016 3 - -
2014/2015 30(4) 6 1
2013/2014 29(1) 4 5
2012/2013 24(4) 9 3
2011/2012 32(1) 5 5
2010/2011 17(9) 3 1
2009/2010 35(1) 13 3
Total / Av 190 40 18
http://www.whoscored.com/Players/14036/History/Gabriel-Agbonlahor
(1) No, that's not controversial at all. I just can't see how you are getting those figures to be applicable to Agbonlahor. If he were getting 20 goals as a central striker (which he's never got close to before, even when playing for an entire season as a central striker) then nobody would be complaining and he'd be our first choice central striker. As for getting nine goals a season from playing out wide, yes that would be fine as well. But he's hit that figure once in the last five years, with the two seasons either side giving a return of 6, 4, 6 and 5.
(2) Walcott's last five seasons have seen 7 in 21, 6 in 18, 21 in 43, 11 in 46 and and 13 in 38. So 58 in 166. Or a goal every 2.8 games. Gabby's last five seasons have given 33 goals in 166 (6, 4, 12, 6 and 5). Or a goal every 5.03 games.
They're not really comparable are they?
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We can throw numbers around all day but my eyes tell me the guy is a fucking crap and is holding back the team. He throws in 3 or 4 very good games a season and is poor for the rest of it. If that's good enough for some people then we will never get out of this rut of finishing in the bottom 6.
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I would give him a free transfer if I could.
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We can throw numbers around all day but my eyes tell me the guy is a fucking crap and is holding back the team. He throws in 3 or 4 very good games a season and is poor for the rest of it. If that's good enough for some people then we will never get out of this rut of finishing in the bottom 6.
I agree. His last 5 seasons have been a Heskeyesque level of scoring, but without being good at anything else like holding the ball up that Heskey was. Not to have got into double figures for 5 years is poor for a striker, however bad the rest of the team is. He's had his day, but has what, 3 years of his contract left. Handing out extensions to players like him, Bacuna and Westwood is utter insanity.
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There were many depressing moments last season but giving him a new, lengthy contract was a particular low moment. I think that was the moment I realised how accepting of utter mediocrity the powers that be are.
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Ever since his early days, Gabby has been terrible at 1on1 chances with the keeper...give him time to think and he's next to useless because he's so stupid. I'd bet that most his goals were instinctual finishes but he appears to have lost any natural instinct to qualify him as a PL footballer. As soon else has mentioned, he'd do a job for someone in the Championship but he's no longer fit for this level.
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How many players in our first team would score more goals if they were thrown up front?
I'd put money on Richards, Clark, Amavi, bacuna, gueye....actually I think Westwood is the only one I'd doubt.
He's embarrassingly bad.
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He'd struggle even more in the championship.
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He's fast becoming our Steven Gerrard, not in the match winner, club legend, way though. In the clearly gone to shit but getting in the team on past achievements and hampering the side bad way.
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Just had a look at one of his two Instagram accounts. He's getting a bit of stick on there but the ‘Loyal’ – ‘Mr Aston Villa’ – ‘Villa through and through’ – ‘Hero’ – ‘Villa legend’ comments balance it out.
I brand him as a ‘Very limited below average footballer’ that would struggle in the Championship. When he eventually leaves, so does his career.
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We can throw numbers around all day but my eyes tell me the guy is a fucking crap and is holding back the team. He throws in 3 or 4 very good games a season and is poor for the rest of it. If that's good enough for some people then we will never get out of this rut of finishing in the bottom 6.
I agree. His last 5 seasons have been a Heskeyesque level of scoring, but without being good at anything else like holding the ball up that Heskey was. Not to have got into double figures for 5 years is poor for a striker, however bad the rest of the team is. He's had his day, but has what, 3 years of his contract left. Handing out extensions to players like him, Bacuna and Westwood is utter insanity.
Mentioning Ivanhoe, the last season where we played to Gabby's strengths according to his supporters, was the season under Houllier with Young, Downing and Albrighton out wide.
Gabby scored 5 goals in 36 appearances, whilst the butt of all jokes managed 6 in 25.
And before the yeah well we signed Bent in January which f##ked it for him, Gabby scored more with Bent in the squad than before he signed.
We're trying to go racing in Formula 1 with a 1987 Ford Escort XR3i. And one with a dodgy service history at that.
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He's fast becoming our Steven Gerrard, not in the match winner, club legend, way though. In the clearly gone to shit but getting in the team on past achievements and hampering the side bad way.
past achievements, would you care to enlarge lol?
I just cannot understand how he is still getting picked, he has been abysmal for years now. Was banging on about how good he would be with Gestede, the guy did a few flick ons in game yesterday and he didn't have a Scooby. I really like Sherwood, he fecked up yesterday, but he needs to show some balls and leave Gabby out.
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I think the only reason Gabby is getting picked is because he has experience of this league. Once the others are up to scratch in terms of fitness and adaption he will be on the bench. Arguably the very same reason we are after Lescott, for his experience. I also think he will make way should Adebayor come in.
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I think Gabby will make way as soon as any of the other forwards start showing both fitness and application in training...it will also be dependent on the formation as theres simply no room for Gabby if he intends to quite rightly play Traore, Grealish/Gil and Gestede/Ayew. If we do sign another CF this week then it can only be another nail in the coffin for his first team prospects. Hopefully Ayew will get the nod on Tuesday, show us why we've spent the money on him and earn a starting place against Sunderland.
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Im convinced gabby will score against Sunderland he's scored a few and his searing pace will undo Sunderland back line. He part of squad our mark noble and Kevin Nolan in one
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I hope you're wrong...I've convinced myself that TS will drop him.
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Tbh I think I would drop him but think he's considered favourable as a senior pro and Sherwood harps on about young players
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Well theres no reason why he should get any game time on Tuesday so hopefully one of the young players can stake their claim to be ahead of Gabby in the pecking order.
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This is time for Ayew to claim is role on Tuesday. A quality striker would of netted Saturday. And the whole game changes. Felt for Gestede as Gabby did not make any runs for his flick ons. Making him totally isolated. Someone on the near post awaiting Traores crosses could of won the game. We have got to get a quality striker in this week .......
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This is time for Ayew to claim is role on Tuesday. A quality striker would of netted Saturday. And the whole game changes. Felt for Gestede as Gabby did not make any runs for his flick ons. Making him totally isolated. Someone on the near post awaiting Traores crosses could of won the game. We have got to get a quality striker in this week .......
Ayew should definitely get a chance in place of Gabby.
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when Traore came on and did those two or three bursts and caused panic in their defence, isn't that what we expect Gabby to be doing
and when was the last time he did it ?
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when Traore came on and did those two or three bursts and caused panic in their defence, isn't that what we expect Gabby to be doing
and when was the last time he did it ?
Yes mate, the same thought crossed my mind on Saturday.
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when Traore came on and did those two or three bursts and caused panic in their defence, isn't that what we expect Gabby to be doing
and when was the last time he did it ?
Yes mate, the same thought crossed my mind on Saturday.
Sunderland 0-Aston villa 4 remember the 2nd and 3rd goals .Gabby scored them. A beauty finish with pacey play and a second was a speed bursts and walked past defence beautifully .
Last time he scored
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It is a good point. If we were playing anyone but Sunderland I'd drop him. As it is we're playing a defence that has been repeatedly mullered by pace. So playing gabby might stil be worth considering, especially if it's too early for Adama to start.
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Gabby always scores against Sunderland.
Start him on saturday, then never play him ever again.
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Gabby always scores against Sunderland.
Start him on saturday, then never play him ever again.
Hopefully they would put a bid in for him.
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Gabby always scores against Sunderland.
Start him on saturday, then never play him ever again.
Except against Albion maybe? He often seems to score against them too!
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when Traore came on and did those two or three bursts and caused panic in their defence, isn't that what we expect Gabby to be doing
and when was the last time he did it ?
Yes mate, the same thought crossed my mind on Saturday.
Sunderland 0-Aston villa 4 remember the 2nd and 3rd goals .Gabby scored them. A beauty finish with pacey play and a second was a speed bursts and walked past defence beautifully .
Last time he scored
Gabby looked like a proper striker that day, with pace and composed finishes. He was aided and abetted by a good all round team display and woeful opponents. The main problem is he plays like that once in a blue moon, and the rest of the time he's a passenger.
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I badly want Gabby to rediscover some form and stick all the criticism back down our throats. But, it really is all over for him isn't it.
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I badly want Gabby to rediscover some form and stick all the criticism back down our throats. But, it really is all over for him isn't it.
I'm very much afraid so Pete.
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Always had a soft spot for Gabby (much like most).
Villa lad, local, loyal etc, but mainly for the goals down at the Sty over the years.
I do accept his time has gone now though as a first teamer atleast and will be surprised if he starts many games this season going forward. His performances in the last two games have been frustrating to say the least!
Personally I'd keep him as a squad player rather than get rid, and I think he'd be happy with that considering he's never shown any appetite to move away from the club.
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Certainly not good enough to be starting on current form. I can't see him being anything but someone to throw on with 20 to go to put the shits up the defenders. That said, he's a long way off scaring anyone at the moment.
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His performances so far this season have terrified me.
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His performances so far this season have terrified me.
He's not done a great deal since MON threw his toys out the pram.
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Always had a soft spot for Gabby (much like most).
Villa lad, local, loyal etc, but mainly for the goals down at the Sty over the years.
I do accept his time has gone now though as a first teamer atleast and will be surprised if he starts many games this season going forward. His performances in the last two games have been frustrating to say the least!
Personally I'd keep him as a squad player rather than get rid, and I think he'd be happy with that considering he's never shown any appetite to move away from the club.
I think the word is comfortable not loyal
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'Loyalty' implies he had the opportunity to go elsewhere, but chose to stay. I dont think anybody else ever wanted him.
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Certainly not good enough to be starting on current form. I can't see him being anything but someone to throw on with 20 to go to put the shits up the defenders. That said, he's a long way off scaring anyone at the moment.
Anyone who bet on him scoring 5 or more this season?
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I will
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Gabby must play V The Rags.
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Keep for a bit I suppose! Rest him for a few weeks, wind him up and let him go. It's his match. Is it too much to ask for another gabby derby?
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Although I have been critical of him for some time, I would still keep him as a substitute/squad player.
From what I have seen of him over the last year is that unless he starts the game well, he struggles to get into the game and then just goes down hill in the 2nd half. I would be tempted to put him on the bench to come on for 20-30 minutes depending on how games are going. If we are behind or need to take the game to the opposition, he may do ok.
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I'm losing patience but until we get better options in he has to stay. Ayew looks way off so he's the only forward we have who can get in behind. We need another
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I've got no problems with keeping Agbonlahor and him playing his part in the squad
I've just got a problem with him playing every week, when he's clearly not as good as some of the other options we have
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Is it too much to expect a PL footballer to at least show that he's making an effort? With his pace he should be showing for the ball, making runs, taking on defenders and carrying a threat...instead we have Gabby who strolls around like he's had too much to drink down the park and can't remember how to kick a ball. His standard of performances are not acceptable so he needs to be clearly told to fix up or be dropped.
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First name on team sheet v Small Heath !!
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First name on team sheet v Small Heath !!
I didn't realise the reserves were playing them as well.
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When we say let go do you mean sell ?? and do you mean let go?sell in the next six days before window closes. I think if he left it would be a shock. I dont see him leaving for a few seasons yet and may go to mls or Australia. Dont forget he is the clubs record premier league scorer so i think that says something. Especially as we outsourced benteke thoiugh i feel sinclair will be top villa scorer this season.
I think he talked of being played in midifield and in later years he may just do a job ! He spoke to AVTV and insisited he sees himself ending up in centre mid for villa when his legs go.
Gabby said in 2014 "I'd love to play centre midfield one day. I have always liked the idea of that.
"Sometimes in training in the past I have dropped back in there. I really enjoy it in there.
"I'll be Gabby the playmaker! Maybe when I'm 36 I will move there.
"When I have been in there in training, I have enjoyed getting on the ball, influencing the game and I like tackling too in there.
"I have played so many positions for Villa over the years. You're always learning and developing your game by doing that.
"But centre midfield is always a position I have enjoyed when I've been there. Hopefully I will be in there one day for Villa."
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Skillz save your breath.
He's going nowhere til sept 23
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To be a playmaker you have to have a brain. Gabby used to have speed. He doesn't have that anymore. Thanks for the memories and goodbye.
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Playmaker?!??
Hilarious
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Skillz save your breath.
He's going nowhere til sept 23
When I first read that I thought he'd signed a new 8 year contract.
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Skillz save your breath.
He's going nowhere til sept 23
When I first read that I thought he'd signed a new 8 year contract.
It's only a matter of time, surely. The way they've been giving them out like sweets lately.
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The only sure thing they will call him when he's 36 is Gabby the Grand Dad of at least seven children.
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When we say let go do you mean sell ?? and do you mean let go?sell in the next six days before window closes. I think if he left it would be a shock. I dont see him leaving for a few seasons yet and may go to mls or Australia. Dont forget he is the clubs record premier league scorer so i think that says something. Especially as we outsourced benteke thoiugh i feel sinclair will be top villa scorer this season.
I think he talked of being played in midifield and in later years he may just do a job ! He spoke to AVTV and insisited he sees himself ending up in centre mid for villa when his legs go.
Gabby said in 2014 "I'd love to play centre midfield one day. I have always liked the idea of that.
"Sometimes in training in the past I have dropped back in there. I really enjoy it in there.
"I'll be Gabby the playmaker! Maybe when I'm 36 I will move there.
"When I have been in there in training, I have enjoyed getting on the ball, influencing the game and I like tackling too in there.
"I have played so many positions for Villa over the years. You're always learning and developing your game by doing that.
"But centre midfield is always a position I have enjoyed when I've been there. Hopefully I will be in there one day for Villa."
Now I understand why he keeps dropping so deep. I thought it was because he had just lost interest.
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I wonder what Gabby thinks of Joe Bennett getting some time in centre midfield ?
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I wonder what Gabby thinks of Joe Bennett getting some time in centre midfield ?
"who's that, I recognise him from somewhere"
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I wonder what Gabby thinks of Joe Bennett getting some time in centre midfield ?
"who's that, I recognise him from somewhere"
"There's a footballer in there somewhere."
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Gabby posted on his Instagram earlier an image saying "Wishes do come true" with the comment "Agree with all recent comments from the fans time too have a ... (think icons)"
Bit later he removed all previous images of himself and villa related ones and just left this one message. Been dropped or looking for a move?
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What's this Gabby on Instagram earlier said 'i agree with all the comments with the fans time to have a ..' Then several though bubbles indicating time to have a think also had a picture up with ' wishes come true ' .. He's been responding to fans comments.
I hope he isn't being hounded out by the fans as he's been loyal and is a villa boy! I also think have to respect a player who's been committed and where's as other players move club to club Gabby been all career.
Hopefully his wish is he gets to play in midfield or as the lone striker
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Gabby posted on his Instagram earlier an image saying "Wishes do come true" with the comment "Agree with all recent comments from the fans time too have a ... (think icons)"
Bit later he removed all previous images of himself and villa related ones and just left this one message. Been dropped or looking for a move?
I just saw that. Odd.
I hope he's off.
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Sounds almost as cryptic as the N'Zog comments a few weeks back.
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Sinclair has to start Saturday, hat-trick in midweek and still on bench would be harsh.
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Who would buy him?
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'Hounded out'. Gabby is like some mad artist has created the perfect embodiment of our acceptance of mediocre rubbish. Even the one thing he can do - run fast - is a problem for us, because every time you've seen us described as 'dangerous on the counter-attack', that's diplomatic pundit-speak for 'one-dimensional', and nobody forces us to play on the break more than Gabby. If he does go, it'd probably be a step forward.
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I hope he isn't being hounded out by the fans as he's been loyal and is a villa boy! I also think have to respect a player who's been committed and where's as other players move club to club Gabby been all career.
Loyal? Do me a favour please. The only reason he's still hanging about like a bad fart is because he's been so poor last few seasons that nobody else would want to buy him.
It's been so cushty for him it's unreal. Loyal my arse!
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Who would buy him?
[/quoteWho would buy him?
Ideal signing for Wolves.
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What's this Gabby on Instagram earlier said 'I'm writing a load of shit'
I hope he isn't being hounded out by the fans as he's been loyal and is a villa boy! I also think have to respect a player who's been committed and where's as other players move club to club Gabby been all career.
Hopefully his wish is he gets to play in midfield or as the lone striker
I hope he's finally starting to look for another club.
Lone striker or in midfield hahahaha, just completely ignore the major points being that he doesn't score many or assist in them either.
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It would be sad if he is hounded out of the club by so called fans.
He has done a lot for this club and is not his fault that he has been played when lacking, form,confidence and fitness.
I agree his performances often has not justified his inclusion in the team but i do not believe that he does not care.
Lets hope that his situation does not become embaressing for him, the club or the fans.
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What's this Gabby on Instagram earlier said 'i agree with all the comments with the fans time to have a ..' Then several though bubbles indicating time to have a think also had a picture up with ' wishes come true ' .. He's been responding to fans comments.
I hope he isn't being hounded out by the fans as he's been loyal and is a villa boy! I also think have to respect a player who's been committed and where's as other players move club to club Gabby been all career.
Hopefully his wish is he gets to play in midfield or as the lone striker
he aint a villa boy at all
he has been loyal because playing for us has made him a multi millionaire and barring 3 or 4 decent games a season he has contributed fuck all. no other team would have stood for it
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It would be sad if he is hounded out of the club by so called fans.
He has done a lot for this club and is not his fault that he has been played when lacking, form,confidence and fitness.
I agree his performances often has not justified his inclusion in the team but i do not believe that he does not care.
Lets hope that his situation does not become embarrassing for him, the club or the fans.
Why are some of us 'so called fans' when we want better than Gabby's ability in the team instead.
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It pisses me off seeing Gabby getting ridiculed.
Ok, so he is never going to be a Tekkers, mcinally or Yorke, but he has given myself plenty to cheer about wearing the claret and blue.
His pace would get everybody up off there seats, his games against the filth are always memorable.
I agree he isn't quite the player he was and also frustrated and feel he could of achieved much more.
But unlike Scumbag Delph, this lad loves the club and wears the badge with pride, I hope he stays on the bench for the next few seasons, I like seeing him about the place.
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I have no real problem with Gabby in that he's put in some really good and important performances in the past. But for whatever reason his game has completely gone and he shouldn't be starting for us. It's as simple as that really.
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When has anyone ever seen him do anything recently (other than when scoring against the baggies) ever show some spirit, shout at players, gee up the crowd, look actually interested.
You know stuff that someone that loves the club would actually do, all he seems to do to me is look sulky and collect £50k a week
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When has anyone ever seen him do anything recently (other than when scoring against the baggies) ever show some spirit, shout at players, gee up the crowd, look actually interested.
You know stuff that someone that loves the club would actually do, all he seems to do to me is look sulky and collect £50k a week
totally agree
he has offered nothing for 5 years so why wouldnt he be loyal. he is at least a stone overweight and having bulked up and lost a yard of pace has done precisely nothing to compensate.
he along with a few other players is one of the main reasons we have been so shit for so long.
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He definitely looks overweight to me which is unforgivable
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He definitely looks overweight to me which is unforgivable
I estimate 2 stone , considering the training regime he must be eating a hell of a lot to be so overweight.
Annoyingly I think he will start tomorrow
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It would be sad if he is hounded out of the club by so called fans.
He has done a lot for this club and is not his fault that he has been played when lacking, form,confidence and fitness.
I agree his performances often has not justified his inclusion in the team but i do not believe that he does not care.
Lets hope that his situation does not become embarrassing for him, the club or the fans.
Why are some of us 'so called fans' when we want better than Gabby's ability in the team instead.
That comment is aimed at the people who post abusive messages to him. I do not believe real Villa Fans would do that, maybe I am wrong, which would be sad.
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Gabby is a villa legend but, he still needs to keep himself fit.
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Gabby's got more chins than a Chinese phone book.
Those jowls aren't a good look on him. He's got to shift that weight. His stamina seems shot to shite too because he doesn't go on many runs during a match. He just seems to take a casual stroll around the pitch half the time. It's ridiculous.
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what a daft topic, he'll retire playing for villa and go on to work at the club
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what a daft topic, he'll retire playing for villa and go on to work at the club
heaven help us all
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what a daft topic, he'll retire playing for villa and go on to work at the club
Head of Catering ?
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Gabby is a villa legend.
Dunno about that. Sid is a Villa legend, God is a Villa legend, Peter McParland is a Villa legend. Gabby is a reasonable player who has had some decent moments for us.
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Gabby is a villa legend but, he still needs to keep himself fit.
How the fuck the Forrest Gump of villa a legend!!
Cowans, yorke , Taylor, McGrath , shaw , evans are legends
His not even lee Hendrie status
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It pisses me off seeing Gabby getting ridiculed.
Ok, so he is never going to be a Tekkers, mcinally or Yorke, but he has given myself plenty to cheer about wearing the claret and blue.
His pace would get everybody up off there seats, his games against the filth are always memorable.
I agree he isn't quite the player he was and also frustrated and feel he could of achieved much more.
But unlike Scumbag Delph, this lad loves the club and wears the badge with pride, I hope he stays on the bench for the next few seasons, I like seeing him about the place.
I think that is his own fault.
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It pisses me off seeing Gabby getting ridiculed.
Ok, so he is never going to be a Tekkers, mcinally or Yorke, but he has given myself plenty to cheer about wearing the claret and blue.
His pace would get everybody up off there seats, his games against the filth are always memorable.
I agree he isn't quite the player he was and also frustrated and feel he could of achieved much more.
But unlike Scumbag Delph, this lad loves the club and wears the badge with pride, I hope he stays on the bench for the next few seasons, I like seeing him about the place.
I think that is his own fault.
Yup. Also if it means not seeing him play for us again I might just shake their hands. I wouldn't do it personally but if you're on a public forum like twitter then haters gonna hate. I think that's what they say.
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Gabby is a villa legend but, he still needs to keep himself fit.
How the fuck the Forrest Gump of villa a legend!!
Cowans, yorke , Taylor, McGrath , shaw , evans are legends
His not even lee Hendrie status
All time premier league scorer for villa . that's how.
And given better players and service would have got more goals. I take on agbonlahor has missed opportunities too so if he had actually finished he would be even higher up the premierr league scoring charts . I believe he has a 1:4 ratio goals to games.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/profile.statistics.html/gabriel-agbonlahor
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The ridicule isn't strictly down to his shitness, it's because he comes off as making little effort to try and be less shit despite all his alleged loyalty to the club (both during the game and in keeping himself in shape); and such apathy has persisted for about five years, save a couple of months for McLeish, a three month stretch under Lambert and a few games under Sherwood. I know it's a valid point to suggest that it's pointless to huff and puff if it doesn't get your anywhere, but that's clearly not so in his case: his natural athleticism means he'll get at least a few good opportunities a game to make an impact providing that he's sufficiently engaged, and what he's done during his good stretches attest to that. But that kind of consistent effort just hasn't been there since MON left, and it's come to a head now at the start of the season where we badly needed someone to step up in the absence of Benteke.
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what a daft topic, he'll retire playing for villa and go on to work at the club
There's an argument for saying he already has retired given how much he contributes on the pitch.
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Gabby is a villa legend but, he still needs to keep himself fit.
How the fuck the Forrest Gump of villa a legend!!
Cowans, yorke , Taylor, McGrath , shaw , evans are legends
His not even lee Hendrie status
All time premier league scorer for villa . that's how.
And given better players and service would have got more goals. I take on agbonlahor has missed opportunities too so if he had actually finished he would be even higher up the premierr league scoring charts . I believe he has a 1:4 ratio goals to games.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/profile.statistics.html/gabriel-agbonlahor
Fucking ell 60 goals in ten years makes you a legend , Heskey must be a god then
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Gabby is a villa legend but, he still needs to keep himself fit.
How the fuck the Forrest Gump of villa a legend!!
Cowans, yorke , Taylor, McGrath , shaw , evans are legends
His not even lee Hendrie status
All time premier league scorer for villa . that's how.
And given better players and service would have got more goals. I take on agbonlahor has missed opportunities too so if he had actually finished he would be even higher up the premierr league scoring charts . I believe he has a 1:4 ratio goals to games.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/profile.statistics.html/gabriel-agbonlahor
Fucking ell 60 goals in ten years makes you a legend , Heskey must be a god then
Well as a lot of people defend Gabby with we don't play to his strengths / play with wingers look at the last season where we did under Houllier with Young, Albrighton and Downing.
Heskey outscored him with 6 in 25 games compared to 5 in 36.
Basically he's done f##k all since O'Neill flounced off.
10 seasons where for large parts of it he's been a fixture in the team and then he's nowhere near 100 goals is terrible.
That he's way out in front says more about our inability to hold onto a player like Benteke, or the utter gash we've had as alternatives than extolling the virtues of Gabby.
And as a closing point can we please stop the bollocks of " in the PL era" or "since 1992" when talking about records.
Do the job properly and he doesn't even get close to the top 10.
And his ratio is way on the wrong side of 1 in 4 and starting to approach 4.25.
Basically we appear to be paying him somewhere between £40K and £60K per week to be some sort of club mascot.
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Sinclair has shown that you don't need to be played as a striker to be able to score a few. 5 in 5 days. We're lucky if Gabby gets 5 in a season.
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Gabby is a villa legend but, he still needs to keep himself fit.
How the fuck the Forrest Gump of villa a legend!!
Cowans, yorke , Taylor, McGrath , shaw , evans are legends
His not even lee Hendrie status
All time premier league scorer for villa . that's how.
And given better players and service would have got more goals. I take on agbonlahor has missed opportunities too so if he had actually finished he would be even higher up the premierr league scoring charts . I believe he has a 1:4 ratio goals to games.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/profile.statistics.html/gabriel-agbonlahor
Fucking ell 60 goals in ten years makes you a legend , Heskey must be a god then
Emile has attained that status amongst his cognoscenti, true.
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Gabby is a villa legend but, he still needs to keep himself fit.
How the fuck the Forrest Gump of villa a legend!!
Cowans, yorke , Taylor, McGrath , shaw , evans are legends
His not even lee Hendrie status
All time premier league scorer for villa . that's how.
And given better players and service would have got more goals. I take on agbonlahor has missed opportunities too so if he had actually finished he would be even higher up the premierr league scoring charts . I believe he has a 1:4 ratio goals to games.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/profile.statistics.html/gabriel-agbonlahor
Fucking ell 60 goals in ten years makes you a legend , Heskey must be a god then
Well as a lot of people defend Gabby with we don't play to his strengths / play with wingers look at the last season where we did under Houllier with Young, Albrighton and Downing.
Heskey outscored him with 6 in 25 games compared to 5 in 36.
Basically he's done f##k all since O'Neill flounced off.
10 seasons where for large parts of it he's been a fixture in the team and then he's nowhere near 100 goals is terrible.
That he's way out in front says more about our inability to hold onto a player like Benteke, or the utter gash we've had as alternatives than extolling the virtues of Gabby.
And as a closing point can we please stop the bollocks of " in the PL era" or "since 1992" when talking about records.
Do the job properly and he doesn't even get close to the top 10.
And his ratio is way on the wrong side of 1 in 4 and starting to approach 4.25.
Basically we appear to be paying him somewhere between £40K and £60K per week to be some sort of club mascot.
His ratio over the last five years in league games is absolutely nowhere near one in 4.
He has scored a total of 26 league goals in the last 5 years, and 9 of them were in one season, leaving a massive 16 spread over the other 4 years.
That's absolutely pathetic.
The fact we hear this "he's Villa through and through" and "he loves the club" bollocks really just shows how accustomed we have become to accepting the truly mediocre.
He'd have been shipped out of pretty much every other top flight club years ago with that sort of shit return, but here he gets contract after contract.
He's an absolute waste of space. Yeah, he'll score against Small Heath and we'll all love it and what not, and then he'll go months and months contributing absolutely nothing.
More than anything I'd love to move him on, it'd show we'd truly taken a break from the small time mentality of coveting players who deliver fuck all just because they're from the city we play in.
He is to us what Shola Ameobi is to Newcastle. The fact we make such massive allowances for him just marks us out as small time. Any club with real ambitions wouldn't put up with such rubbish year after year.
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1 in 5.6 over the previous 5 full seasons.
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I was being kind to him and taking it over his career, where even with his good years it comes out as shit.
Even in his earlier years where it looked like he might possibly be a player, he struggled to beat 1 in 3.
Completely agree with everything else you say.
If we sell him on Monday, it will be 4 years too late.
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Interested to know how Sherwood is going to fit Gabby into the next games starting line up now that Sinclair can't be dropped.
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He'll be a sub perhaps.
Where's this opinion come from that he's an automatic starter under Sherwood, if so why didn't he start the cup final?
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Can't see gabby starting the next match unless it's for Gestede
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Charlie Austin will start the next match.
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He'll be a sub perhaps.
Where's this opinion come from that he's an automatic starter under Sherwood, if so why didn't he start the cup final?
He was injured in the run up to the cup final.
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I really hate writing this, but i'd have to say cash in. Gabby performs to his full ability in around two games out of ten. During the others he just doesn't appear arsed and this has been the case for a few years now. His work rate and determination made him as a player: it disguised his lack of footballing ability.
The frustrating thing about Gabby, is that we know he can be absolute handful to defences, but we seldom see it anymore.
A month and three Premiership starts later, my viewpoint hasn't changed. It's just gained confidence.
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The Grauniad:
Tim Sherwood has appealed to Gabriel Agbonlahor to ignore the social media trolls and help play the role of lieutenant in the Aston Villa camp.
The Villa manager advised his club captain not to worry about Twitter critics after Agbonlahor, who missed Saturday’s entertaining draw with Sunderland due to illness, posted a cryptic message on Instagram saying he agreed with all the fans’ recent comments following his poor performance in last week’s defeat at Crystal Palace.
With 10 new signings at Villa, Sherwood knows he needs the club’s longest-serving player to help lead the way as he plans a brighter future for a team that have struggled against relegation for five years.
“What Gabby has to realise is no one is going to like you all of the time,” Sherwood said. “I realised that when I played through my career. You get ups and downs. [But] when you come through it, you get stronger.
“He has a huge part to play because we bought a lot of new boys into the club [so he has] a crucial part to play in the dressing room. I haven’t spoken to Gabby and I don’t know what he is thinking but he is club captain. I don’t underestimate the role he plays at this club and it is crucial for a manager to have some lieutenants.”
Villa’s leading Premier League goalscorer has been at the club since childhood and, at his pacy best, would have provided Sherwood with the extra cutting edge required to overcome a fragile Sunderland team.
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So we know it was Gabby's message on instagram then.
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The Grauniad:
Tim Sherwood has appealed to Gabriel Agbonlahor to ignore the social media trolls and help play the role of lieutenant in the Aston Villa camp.
The Villa manager advised his club captain not to worry about Twitter critics after Agbonlahor, who missed Saturday’s entertaining draw with Sunderland due to illness, posted a cryptic message on Instagram saying he agreed with all the fans’ recent comments following his poor performance in last week’s defeat at Crystal Palace.
With 10 new signings at Villa, Sherwood knows he needs the club’s longest-serving player to help lead the way as he plans a brighter future for a team that have struggled against relegation for five years.
“What Gabby has to realise is no one is going to like you all of the time,” Sherwood said. “I realised that when I played through my career. You get ups and downs. [But] when you come through it, you get stronger.
“He has a huge part to play because we bought a lot of new boys into the club [so he has] a crucial part to play in the dressing room. I haven’t spoken to Gabby and I don’t know what he is thinking but he is club captain. I don’t underestimate the role he plays at this club and it is crucial for a manager to have some lieutenants.”
Villa’s leading Premier League goalscorer has been at the club since childhood and, at his pacy best, would have provided Sherwood with the extra cutting edge required to overcome a fragile Sunderland team.
What a load of old toss, he's paid to score goals. That smacks of Lambert's Grant Holt "real man" nonsense. Yes you need leaders at a football club, but you also need forwards who are half way to being effective as a player.
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Exactly, and we all know its not just a recent thing. He's not been good enough, or even mobile enough for years.
Your dream has come true Gabby. You're a multi millionaire playing football for the club you love.
I would wish him all the best, but we need to move on.
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I wonder will someone come in for him this evening? Wickham, Hooper, Jerome etc the number of consistently poor forwards stealing a living in the top division is astounding. Wouldn't be surprised in late interest in Gabby particularly if we bring in another forward tonight.
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So we know it was Gabby's message on instagram then.
What did he say?
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I wonder will someone come in for him this evening? Wickham, Hooper, Jerome etc the number of consistently poor forwards stealing a living in the top division is astounding. Wouldn't be surprised in late interest in Gabby particularly if we bring in another forward tonight.
Where would he go? I doubt he'd uproot his family with the contract he's sitting on.
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So with both Gabby and TS having full knowledge that the fans aren't happy with his performances, is it likely that he'll change his attitude, shed some weight and start making an effort on the pitch? Fans do appreciate it when we can see someone working hard for the team, but if a player isn't pulling his weight and contributing next to fuck all then its non acceptable...particularly if they're a bit shit to begin with.
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I could see him doing well at Wolves, wouldn't surprise me if this was to happen in January, if they knocking on the premier league door.
Plus he could stay in the Midlands.
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I don't think he'd get in the wolves team - honestly
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gabby has 3 years left on his contract so is going nowhere unless a pl team match it which is highly unlikely
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gabby has 3 years left on his contract so is going nowhere unless a pl team match it which is highly unlikely
Spot on
I don't think I've ever heard even a whisper of a rumour about Gabby leaving either outright or loan in all the time he's been with us
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So we know it was Gabby's message on instagram then.
What did he say?
When the seagulls follow the trawler, I'll be happy with the three points -even though it is just a cup game.
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gabby has 3 years left on his contract so is going nowhere unless a pl team match it which is highly unlikely
Spot on
I don't think I've ever heard even a whisper of a rumour about Gabby leaving either outright or loan in all the time he's been with us
much as i dont rate gabby anymore i wouldnt blame him one iota for not moving. we as a club were fools to have given him a new contract when really i would have let it run down and let him go on a free
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Gabby is a villa legend but, he still needs to keep himself fit.
How the fuck the Forrest Gump of villa a legend!!
Cowans, yorke , Taylor, McGrath , shaw , evans are legends
His not even lee Hendrie status
All time premier league scorer for villa . that's how.
And given better players and service would have got more goals. I take on agbonlahor has missed opportunities too so if he had actually finished he would be even higher up the premierr league scoring charts . I believe he has a 1:4 ratio goals to games.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/profile.statistics.html/gabriel-agbonlahor
Fucking ell 60 goals in ten years makes you a legend , Heskey must be a god then
Well as a lot of people defend Gabby with we don't play to his strengths / play with wingers look at the last season where we did under Houllier with Young, Albrighton and Downing.
Heskey outscored him with 6 in 25 games compared to 5 in 36.
Basically he's done f##k all since O'Neill flounced off.
10 seasons where for large parts of it he's been a fixture in the team and then he's nowhere near 100 goals is terrible.
That he's way out in front says more about our inability to hold onto a player like Benteke, or the utter gash we've had as alternatives than extolling the virtues of Gabby.
And as a closing point can we please stop the bollocks of " in the PL era" or "since 1992" when talking about records.
Do the job properly and he doesn't even get close to the top 10.
And his ratio is way on the wrong side of 1 in 4 and starting to approach 4.25.
Basically we appear to be paying him somewhere between £40K and £60K per week to be some sort of club mascot.
solid stats and argument - you have to take the figures over his whole villa career. One in 3 would be OK. One in 4+ is not that great for a striker. Shame as there's hardly a player over the last 10 yrs you'd want to succeed more than gabby.
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Club Mascot :-)
We should at least have him touring around with Hercules before the game, I must admit I could see him in that role, you might be on to something.
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Poor Gabby. https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/639186537893138432
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Poor Gabby. https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/639186537893138432
I can't find it again, but I saw one yesterday about when (if) Albion's league goals tally would overtake their official statements this season.
Apparently at the moment statements are winning 4-3.
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Poor Gabby. https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/639186537893138432
That's funny. I like paddy power and their piss taking.
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That is funny.
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Whilst his more recent form has been poor he is not alone is he? We've had plenty of below average players in a below average team for what - 5 years?
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A bit of number crunching for you to digest. Its only statistics.........
(http://i.imgur.com/1txoe21.png)
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Most telling statistic is that the only player with a worse ratio in those lists is Dickie York, who spent his career as a winger. Or the equivalent in the 1920s.
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Is that grealish' grand dad at no 9?
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Great-great grandad I think.
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Most telling statistic is that the only player with a worse ratio in those lists is Dickie York, who spent his career as a winger. Or the equivalent in the 1920s.
I would have thought that Yorke DE was Dwight and York RE was Dickie
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Which is correct and Dickie is the only player with a worse ratio.
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Most telling statistic is that the only player with a worse ratio in those lists is Dickie York, who spent his career as a winger. Or the equivalent in the 1920s.
Yeah, he's the worst one in our top twenty all-time goal scorers (and played, mostly as a winger, for five years in a worse team than any of them except Hately). Carry on with the abuse folks, he deserves it, the thick c***.
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I'm not sure how pointing out he has the worst goal ratio from that list is abuse. But hey ho.
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I'm not sure how pointing out he has the worst goal ratio from that list is abuse. But hey ho.
I was talking about the general vibe of many posters, hence 'folks' and not 'PWS'.
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As you quoted my post and the first sentence was obviously a reply to my comment, I assumed the second sentence was as well. My mistake.
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As you quoted my post and the first sentence was obviously a reply to my comment, I assumed the second sentence was as well. My mistake.
Easily done, no worries. Admittedly I was at pains to point out that I thought it was a bit rich complaining about the worst one in our all time top twenty, especially using the fact that York was a winger as a reason for his low ratio as Gabby has been for a lot of games too.
But I didn't mean to single you out for the rest of the post, soz.
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No worries and no need to apologise mate. We'll never agree on the current Gabby, will make a good debate when we have a beer again!
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No worries and no need to apologise mate. We'll never agree on the current Gabby, will make a good debate when we have a beer again!
i dunno, maybe we will agree. He ain't been great, I just don't feel the board needs any more people pointing this out than there already is. I'd be interested to see where his ratio is in a table produced from games against the best four or five teams in the country at any given time. And/or local derbies obvs.
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I love him and I think I always will
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I love him and I think I always will
Me too.
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I love him and I think I always will
Me too.
we will all love him again after we have played the noses and he's done the business.........again
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Which is correct and Dickie is the only player with a worse ratio.
Sorry, I misunderstood your post
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It would be great if he could recapture the form he showed under MON.Not sure if injuries are to blame , a lack of confidence or playing in a succession of poor Villa teams.
Clearly TS believes he still has ability and I and many supporters sincerely hope he is proven right.
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Oh come on no love in please, at best he was a useful player with great speed but very little else, i like Gabby for being a fan as well as a great servent for the club but all this talk of getting back to his best is nonsense, the last three years he has been very average.
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I can't see him ever being that player again, even though he always had faults. He'll always be good for a few good games a season as he had when Sherwood first joined
But in many ways he did brilliantly to have the career he's had given how poor his technique looked when he first started. He must have worked very hard on his game in some ways
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Let's see what he does between 19-22 September before writing him off eh ?
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I've never been a big fan of a Gabby even in the so called glory days I wasn't on board
But I think he's made a big contribution at certain times, derbies and big games he's done the business
I was actually disappointed when he didn't make the FA cup final, but that was me probably thinking he would have taken Nzogs place
I still think he has a part to play, and in a wierd way like him a bit more than I did, because he's not the one all our hopes rest on,
I remember arguing on here years ago with people saying he would be England's first choice striker in time, and I never saw it that way I never thought he was ever good enough,
but he can still cause problems for other teams, especially bringing him on later on in games
I respect the views of Percy and others on here who have always backed him, I never did and once called him a busted flush on here a few years ago and got pelters for it, but hey ho it's just opinions
but I have also cheered as loud as any other at the sty when he's clinched those winners, he's given me some of the best memories I've had in recent times
So Gabby will always be a good egg in my book if not as good as others see him
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For the big goals he's scored and the fact he's our PL record goal scorer and born and bread local lad and villa fan he gets legend status IMHO.
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For the big goals he's scored and the fact he's our PL record goal scorer and born and bread local lad and villa fan he gets legend status IMHO.
What has the PL got to do with football records or are you saying that most of my time supporting Villa is irrelevant. There was football before the PL and plenty of players to compare legend status against and I sorry but Gabby is not up there.
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For the big goals he's scored and the fact he's our PL record goal scorer and born and bread local lad and villa fan he gets legend status IMHO.
Absolutely no chance.
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Cult hero more than legend is probably more accurate for me.
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Cult hero more than legend is probably more accurate for me.
He is one of us. That does not confer legendary status but it might be nice to recognise that he is now in a difficult position because his performances are waning. I have no wish to see Gabby thrown out of the club he loves so maybe time to think more strategically and help him get a few badges to ensure a place in the club. I am saddened by the apparent wish of some to basically kick him out
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For the big goals he's scored and the fact he's our PL record goal scorer and born and bread local lad and villa fan he gets legend status IMHO.
he wasnt a villa fan though was he?
well documented that he supported arsenal as a kid and never went to vp
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For the big goals he's scored and the fact he's our PL record goal scorer and born and bread local lad and villa fan he gets legend status IMHO.
Haha funny joke.
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For the big goals he's scored and the fact he's our PL record goal scorer and born and bread local lad and villa fan he gets legend status IMHO.
Fuck me. you set the bar low if he is a legend in your book.
Legends are Peter McParland, Charlie Aitken, the whole of the 80/81 title team and the European Cup squad...that is legend status.
Not some washed up footballer who has been lucky to carve out a very, very well paid career on limited ability.
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I'm perplexed how Gabby is still even here. He's probably survived half a dozen managers despite having a woeful goals return.
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I'm perplexed how Gabby is still even here. He's probably survived half a dozen managers despite having a woeful goals return.
I expect Gabby can't believe he's got away with it for so long either.
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Cult hero more than legend is probably more accurate for me.
I'd go along with that. Legend is stretching it a bit.
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Put a statue of him up outside the ground if he's really thought of as legend. (I know he hasn't asked for that status)
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Most telling statistic is that the only player with a worse ratio in those lists is Dickie York, who spent his career as a winger. Or the equivalent in the 1920s.
Yeah, he's the worst one in our top twenty all-time goal scorers (and played, mostly as a winger, for five years in a worse team than any of them except Hately). Carry on with the abuse folks, he deserves it, the thick c***.
[/quoteMost telling statistic is that the only player with a worse ratio in those lists is Dickie York, who spent his career as a winger. Or the equivalent in the 1920s.
I would have thought that Yorke DE was Dwight and York RE was Dickie
I can tell you I once dickied Dicky's granddaughter.
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Cult hero more than legend is probably more accurate for me.
He is one of us. That does not confer legendary status but it might be nice to recognise that he is now in a difficult position because his performances are waning. I have no wish to see Gabby thrown out of the club he loves so maybe time to think more strategically and help him get a few badges to ensure a place in the club. I am saddened by the apparent wish of some to basically kick him out
We should appoint coaches based on their ability to do their job, not because of their history. He can always become a club ambassador like Ian Taylor.
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He is still a useful squad player being used as an impact sub or in specific away games when his pace (what he still has) can be a tactic. Should not be a guaranteed starter though.
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For the big goals he's scored and the fact he's our PL record goal scorer and born and bread local lad and villa fan he gets legend status IMHO.
Haha funny joke.
As he said though it's his opinion and ultimately doesn't everyone define legend differently? If you are in your 20's as an example legend means different things to someone in the 40's or 50's. For me I've seen numerous better Villa players, so legend is a bit steep. But time does cloud our judgement of some of things he's done, and allows us to have some collective regret in hindsight because we know what he was very capable of doing but didn't. It wasn't all his fault. His trajectory in the side MON put together was very much in the right direction. But a combination of his own application, managerial changes, injury and being played in a few different positions had an effect.
He has never been the most talented and we all kind of knew that once he got older, his pace went a little he'd be exposed as quite limited. That said he still popped up at the end of last season with some important goals and assists. For he's been passed by now by younger players, and if he is able to contribute off the bench and be a positive leader at the club, on and off the pitch he still has value.
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For the big goals he's scored and the fact he's our PL record goal scorer and born and bread local lad and villa fan he gets legend status IMHO.
Are you fecking kidding? I guess Bobby Moore et al have never won the World Cup trophy either have they? I really dislike all these PL stat records.
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Cult hero more than legend is probably more accurate for me.
He is one of us. That does not confer legendary status but it might be nice to recognise that he is now in a difficult position because his performances are waning. I have no wish to see Gabby thrown out of the club he loves so maybe time to think more strategically and help him get a few badges to ensure a place in the club. I am saddened by the apparent wish of some to basically kick him out
We should appoint coaches based on their ability to do their job, not because of their history. He can always become a club ambassador like Ian Taylor.
A fair enough comment and resolution OCD
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When Gabby has retired from the game I shall look forward to attending his after dinner talks - they should be entertaining - only kidding Gabby if you are reading this !
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I'm pretty sure silhillvilla was the one that said Gabby was going to score more than 14 goals last season.
I said 6 or less and was bang on, so how many this season SV?
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I'm pretty sure silhillvilla was the one that said Gabby was going to score more than 14 goals last season.
I said 6 or less and was bang on, so how many this season SV?
Were you have happy that he was wrong and you were right? Because it appears that you are very happy to be bang on. Speaking for myself I haven't enjoyed one Villa player across my entire time watching the club fail.
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Cult hero more than legend is probably more accurate for me.
He is one of us. That does not confer legendary status but it might be nice to recognise that he is now in a difficult position because his performances are waning. I have no wish to see Gabby thrown out of the club he loves so maybe time to think more strategically and help him get a few badges to ensure a place in the club. I am saddened by the apparent wish of some to basically kick him out
I feel the same. The Villa life we share involves emotion and loyalty and years as well as analysis, results and business. For me it's a little sad to be so keen to be rid of him.
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I see someone's got nothing better to do today then quote my posts and skip everybody else ::)
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I see someone's got nothing better to do today then quote my posts and skip everybody else ::)
It's not that at all. It's absolutely fine to hold your own opinion and be critical of the player. I don't think he should be playing either. But you are criticizing his opinion and going as far as to revel in being right about your opinion about one of our players not doing as well as someone else, possibly most of us hoped.
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Perhaps Legend Lite then would be more appropriate for all the Derby goals (has any villa player scored more ??)
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Cult hero more than legend is probably more accurate for me.
He is one of us. That does not confer legendary status but it might be nice to recognise that he is now in a difficult position because his performances are waning. I have no wish to see Gabby thrown out of the club he loves so maybe time to think more strategically and help him get a few badges to ensure a place in the club. I am saddened by the apparent wish of some to basically kick him out
I feel the same. The Villa life we share involves emotion and loyalty and years as well as analysis, results and business. For me it's a little sad to be so keen to be rid of him.
I will never forget "those" goals at the Sty
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Those goals are legendary even if the player isn't.
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Perhaps Legend Lite then would be more appropriate for all the Derby goals (has any villa player scored more ??)
When he retires the noses are renaming the end where he scored those winners at the Sty. The Agbonlahor End, has a nice ring to it.
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He's lucky he got that contract last season. I wouldn't have him as a player we rely on. How many times has he been entrusted with responsibility, how many times has he been found wanting. Not good enough for us. Very lucky guy. He's a relic of the past, and a symbol of the mediocrity that we have become. I couldn't see any top half club being interested in him.
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Cult hero more than legend is probably more accurate for me.
He is one of us. That does not confer legendary status but it might be nice to recognise that he is now in a difficult position because his performances are waning. I have no wish to see Gabby thrown out of the club he loves so maybe time to think more strategically and help him get a few badges to ensure a place in the club. I am saddened by the apparent wish of some to basically kick him out
We should appoint coaches based on their ability to do their job, not because of their history. He can always become a club ambassador like Ian Taylor.
A fair enough comment and resolution OCD
Stalwart a villa stalwart
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AN2k77 I think Billy Walker scored 10 or 11 goals against them for us
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Perhaps Legend Lite then would be more appropriate for all the Derby goals (has any villa player scored more ??)
He's scored 4 goals against Blues, according to Wiki.
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Perhaps Legend Lite then would be more appropriate for all the Derby goals (has any villa player scored more ??)
He's scored 4 goals against Blues, according to Wiki.
Yes, that's how many I recall. The best one has to be the late-winner just after his goal-line clearance up the other end.
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Cult hero more than legend is probably more accurate for me.
He is one of us. That does not confer legendary status but it might be nice to recognise that he is now in a difficult position because his performances are waning. I have no wish to see Gabby thrown out of the club he loves so maybe time to think more strategically and help him get a few badges to ensure a place in the club. I am saddened by the apparent wish of some to basically kick him out
I feel the same. The Villa life we share involves emotion and loyalty and years as well as analysis, results and business. For me it's a little sad to be so keen to be rid of him.
I will never forget "those" goals at the Sty
Or those at the Hawthorns, or Anfield, Or Molineux, Or Old Trafford, Or Stamford Bridge, Or the Emirates.....
I agree legend is pushing it, but there are few players who we will look back on who have given us as many great moments as he has. He's not consistent, but I still think of those goals he's scored, theres only a handful of teams he's never scored against.
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Although it shouldn't matter who scores, are there any of us who were either surprised or not glad when it was Gabby rather anyone else who got the ball rolling against the baggies last year?
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Although it shouldn't matter who scores, are there any of us who were either surprised or not glad when it was Gabby rather anyone else who got the ball rolling against the baggies last year?
Whenever the Villa score a goal I'm too delirious with joy and confusion to care too much about the identity of the scorer.
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AN2k77 I think Billy Walker scored 10 or 11 goals against them for us
Yep, this is the list of top league & cup goalscorers against them
11 Walker WH
7 Waring T
5 Campbell JJ
5 Devey JHG
5 Houghton WE
4 Agbonlahor GI
4 Hitchens GA
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This post has been deigned to be lowbrow and gossipy.Apologies for lowering the tone of this bastion of morals and literary excellence
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He's got more kids than goals.
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He's got more kids than goals.
where's the like button :)
UTV
The Doc
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I wonder what it is that attracts these young women to our millionaire club captain?
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Because he's crap at playing hide and seek with their kids?
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When he bagged that hat-trick first home game against Man City a few years ago I was convinced he was our 20 goals a season man for the forseeable future, I was horribly wrong.
Having said that he does love a derby!
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First name on team sheet, or brought on with half hour to go
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If the alleged stories of the players allegiance are to be believed, then when was the last time we had 3 or more Villa fans in the team...Gabby, Jack and Lescott (plus Gardner?). You'd think that can only be a good thing with their desire and determination to win hopefully rubbing off on other players.
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If the alleged stories of the players allegiance are to be believed, then when was the last time we had 3 or more Villa fans in the team...Gabby, Jack and Lescott (plus Gardner?). You'd think that can only be a good thing with their desire and determination to win hopefully rubbing off on other players.
I've heard they're all Blues mate, they've infiltrated the team as well as taking over half of the ground.
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If the alleged stories of the players allegiance are to be believed, then when was the last time we had 3 or more Villa fans in the team...Gabby, Jack and Lescott (plus Gardner?). You'd think that can only be a good thing with their desire and determination to win hopefully rubbing off on other players.
gabby was an arsenal fan as a kid and never went to villa park
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Yeah I've read that repeated a few times on this thread so "alleged" is the key word. ;)
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Yeah I've read that repeated a few times on this thread so "alleged" is the key word. ;)
lol
ashley young interviewed gabby for i think avtv and asked him what team he supported as a kid. gabby said arsenal
i think it was lawrenson who interviewed him after scoring one of his first goals at vp and said what was it like to score in front of the holte where you sat as a kid. gabby said i never came here as a kid.
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I'm not questioning that evidence...its just that he's usually heralded as a Villa fan in the media particularly before derby games, so may be they just work out the fact that because he's a Brummie and his "loyalty" of always having played for Villa equates to him being a Villa fan. At least we know he doesn't support Baggies or Blues and he loves scoring against them so that'll do for me this week.
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He's got more kids than goals.
and he's just got his ex pregnant behind his current partners back. So she's kicked the dumb bastard out.
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So he only fires blanks for Villa then?
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Yeah I've read that repeated a few times on this thread so "alleged" is the key word. ;)
lol
ashley young interviewed gabby for i think avtv and asked him what team he supported as a kid. gabby said arsenal
i think it was lawrenson who interviewed him after scoring one of his first goals at vp and said what was it like to score in front of the holte where you sat as a kid. gabby said i never came here as a kid.
I well remember a TV interview with him after he first hit media attention and he stated quite clearly that he had never been to Villa Park as a fan. He seemed quite embarrassed by the journo's angle. At least he was honest.
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Alan Smith who we have debated here before was on talksport yesterday and said he supported Man City as a lad growing up,
but said if you asked him now it would be Villa, I think he suggested he came more over to Villa as time went on because his father was Villa
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I went to senior school with him. He liked Arsenal as a kid as Thierry Henry was his idol. Fair enough. I think there are people in family who were Villa though IIRC, so we would have been the local team he liked. I think that's fair enough, and I dare say his love for us has grown as we were the only team who took a chance on him. He was lightning quick, but not as technically gifted as many players in our youth team at the time. Apparently we took a gamble on him based on his pace. He knuckled down, worked hard on the other aspects of his game, and under O'Neill was great. His limitations are there for all to see, and will become more prevalant when the pace disappears. (Some say it has already)
I'll always be rooting for him to do well, as I think he's worked bloody hard for it. If Luke Moore, someone who looked much more of a natural talent, had worked half as hard as Gabby there'd be a hell of player out there. And that's before you hear about the things he does around the club, and how good a guy he seems to be. (Shagging shennanigans aside! We all have one vice!)
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Actually thought he played well on the weekend. He exposed them a number of times, one of which lead to a goal another obvious one being the Sinclair miss.
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Actually thought he played well on the weekend. He exposed them a number of times, one of which lead to a goal another obvious one being the Sinclair miss.
I did too, Ads. Thought at half time it was set up for him and Sinclair to destroy them on the break. His use of the ball was good overall too, and there was one particular pass to Grealish in the first half that had the roles been reversed people would be crowing about the quality of it.
The lack of real goal threat from him is a big worry though. That I hope is going to change this week.
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Gabby is a hero, he knows all about loyalty.
Don't understand why people would give him a hard time.
Gives us pace in behind and has been pretty decent for us recently.
I love the big picture of him, in the front of the store on Bham high street. Good lookin fella.
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Gabby is a hero, he knows all about loyalty.
Don't understand why people would give him a hard time.
Gives us pace in behind and has been pretty decent for us recently.
I love the big picture of him, in the front of the store on Bham high street. Good lookin fella.
You've seen him score against you often enough.
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Yeah I've read that repeated a few times on this thread so "alleged" is the key word. ;)
lol
ashley young interviewed gabby for i think avtv and asked him what team he supported as a kid. gabby said arsenal
i think it was lawrenson who interviewed him after scoring one of his first goals at vp and said what was it like to score in front of the holte where you sat as a kid. gabby said i never came here as a kid.
I well remember a TV interview with him after he first hit media attention and he stated quite clearly that he had never been to Villa Park as a fan. He seemed quite embarrassed by the journo's angle. At least he was honest.
I remember that as well.
Said he was mostly unable to go as he was doing extra shifts down the Rover, Tom playing football when the matches were on so didn't go.
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Against?
Think you're getting confused.
My OP about McLeish was serious, my old man works at the TG. Old AM may be coming in on a short term deal to help as a technical director.
Shoe me in a few months if i'm wrong, but that's the word.
Cant understand why though.
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Against?
Think you're getting confused.
My OP about McLeish was serious, my old man works at the TG. Old AM may be coming in on a short term deal to help as a technical director.
Shoe me in a few months if i'm wrong, but that's the word.
Cant understand why though.
This is already getting boring, so I'm sadly going to have to bring your fun to a close.
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Username before I changed it, "SammySeal". Must think we are as thick as the rest of the bitters are.
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Pity, I have some scrap that he could have tatted in for me. I had a carrot for his 'oss in all.
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They are just feeling left out because we are being nasty about Blues.
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Gabby's scoring run continues
:o
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A THIRD woman in Aston Villa rat Gabby Agbonlahor’s tangled love life came forward last night — and insisted she’s been living with him for two years.
Portia Smith, 24, broke her silence after Liz Wheeler, mum to two of the footballer’s kids, claimed she kicked him out for getting an ex pregnant.
Businesswoman Portia — who looks strikingly similar to Agbonlahor’s other lovers — said she knew all about the player’s new baby boy born last month. But she declared: “He’s my man. I’m his girlfriend.
“I have been with him for three years and living with him for two. The way Liz has been speaking, it’s as if I don’t exist.
“He’s only got one girlfriend — that’s me. I want to spend my life with him. He says that he has never loved anyone before me, apart from his children. He says he has never felt love like it.”
Portia, who runs her own beautician business, said she and England striker Agbonlahor, 28, were having some time apart last year when he had a fling with his ex Laura Hughes, 29.
But she scoffed at claims by Liz, 28, that she then kicked him out of the family home in Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands, back in May.
Portia said: “I’ve been brushed under the carpet like I’m nothing. It’s embarrassing, he is a big part of my life. Everyone knows we are in a relationship, from work colleagues to clients to family.
“Yes he has made a mistake, but that was while we were not together on a break. He treats me well, he looks after me, he’s caring.
“I knew the pregnancy was going to come out so I wasn’t really shocked. The baby was actually born on my birthday, but he was with me. I was more shocked at Liz saying she’s with him and has thrown him out. He’s not been with her a long time, a good few years.
“He told me from the day I met him that he was with someone and he wasn’t happy. Gabby always said he and Liz led separate lives.
“Liz has obviously made it out like that because she doesn’t like me. She always blames me, but I never got involved until they were officially split up.”
The star’s new son, Albee-Ivan Iyenoma Agbonlahor, was born in August and Portia admits she was upset when she first learned of the pregnancy. She added: “Me and Gabby had gone on a break from our relationship about last October, because I couldn’t take Liz giving me grief any more.
“It was getting me down. I decided to call it a day.
“He’s gone off and done whatever and around Christmas time we decided to give it another go. Early this year he told me about Laura and the baby.
“Obviously I was very upset and it killed me, but he was really upset he had done it and hurt me. After a while we managed to get over it and I said I would be there for him. I will stand by him.”
Portia first met Agbonlahor at a London nightclub seven years ago. But she said the pair stayed as just friends because the Premier League star was with Liz, mum to Gabriel Jnr, seven, and Evelyn, four.
However, the couple were at posh restaurant Nozomi in Chelsea, West London, three years ago when he told her it was over with Liz.
Portia recalled: “That’s when we started seeing each other and things got a lot more serious.
“I’d always known that he’d liked me but while I knew Liz was still in the background I didn’t want anything to do with it.
“It wasn’t until I knew he officially wasn’t with her that we started to take things further.”
Portia, who now lives at the Villa club captain’s Birmingham flat, said: “Moving in happened gradually. In our first year we went on holiday to Dubai for four or five days. We would have date nights, and go on spa breaks together.
“We would see each other every week. It’s always been three to four days a week and it’s obviously more now I’m up there. I have a key to his apartment in Birmingham. I’ve lived there for two years.
“It’s a lovely place. We go to the cinema, out for meals, go bowling, anything a normal couple will do. We cook for each other. I do him a spicy chicken dish.”
Agbonlahor has bought her a car and has sent flowers to her mum — and they have talked about kids.
She added: “We have spoken about having a family in the near future. He says once his career has finished he doesn’t see his life in Birmingham. He would like to live down South or even travel abroad.
“Some women are just there for what they can get, but I don’t need him for anything. I’ve got my own money, I’ve worked since I was 15.
“I am not with him because he’s a footballer. I’m there because I love him.
“He’s not this horrible person these women are trying to make him out to be. He is a good guy.”
Aston Villa and Agbonlahor’s agent refused to comment when approached by The Sun last night.
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He is absolute garbage, and has been for years. However, would I drop him for tomorrow night? No. There's nobody worth dropping him for, Ayew and Gestede are Championship standard, and Gabby loves playing the noses.
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Hard to see what he did tonight other than run. We look one dimensional with him in the team and much better without. Surely his full match usefulness has come to an end? An impact player to run them after 70 mins when they're knackered at best?
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His strength is his strength, and his PL experience based knowledge of the dark arts of wrestling in the area. Once an opposing defender has been arm locked and had their shoulder wrenched away from the socket, they are noticeably less enthusiastic about further encounters. If Jack and Gill ran up the hill to the opposition penalty area in a set piece, their frail limbs would be snapped like dried out brittle twigs.
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Well apparently he picked up a knock in the game tonight and may be the reason why he came off (not sure if TS can actually claim that was intentional or not), so if he's not fit to play on the weekend then it will hopefully give Ayew or someone else the opportunity to claim their starting place ahead of him.
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This has got to be then end of the road for him at Villa, we simply cannot afford to carry a striker that doesn't score. Thanks for the memories Gabby, see yer later.
Have to say I did find this amusing for someone who's never left Birmingham bar 2 brief loan spells 10 years ago. "She added: “We have spoken about having a family in the near future. He says once his career has finished he doesn’t see his life in Birmingham. He would like to live down South or even travel abroad."
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He went off injured last night. The noses celebrated it like a goal.
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I can't believe he has a son called Albee-Ivan Iyenoma. If I was having kids at the rate he does I would just give them one name each in case I ran out of names.
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The test will be if Sherwood decides to rest Gabby in a league game, start with Gestede and Ayew and have Kozak on the bench as an impact sub. If the team performs as they did in the 2nd half last night without Gabby then the era of Agbonlahor at Villa should be drawn to a close.
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If Ayew has that in his locker, then Gabby & Sinclair should be worried about their places.
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Rightly subbed at half time after 8 touches.
I hope the fat ****** never plays for us again.
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I want this wage thieving ****** forming a bomb squad by the end of tonight. Dog shit player, I'm so angry I feel like punching his gormless face.
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Exactly right Risso.
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Rightly subbed at half time after 8 touches.
I hope the fat c*** never plays for us again.
Agreed.
He just drifts from contract to contract while showing fuck all for months on end.
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Taxi for Gabby. Or a minibus. Possibly a coach. Probably a double-decker.
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And that was 'pulling his finger out' according to KMac .
Fuck me - what's he like on holiday ?
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utterly useless. Thanks for the memories Gabby but you are well, well past your sell by date.
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Probably for the best that he moves on.
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He'll have to retire, nobody would pay money for him.
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Sunderland, January transfer window - calling it now.
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He'll have to retire, nobody would pay money for him.
Off to the glue factory.
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Kidnap. Dispose of in Antarctica.
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For someone that allegedly cares about the club, he really doesn't seem to look like he gives a flying fuck.
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See you next Tuesday - and that's being kind
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Sunderland, January transfer window - calling it now.
He's got Bolton or Blackburn written all over him.
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That new contract he got roundabout the time Lambert got one was ridiculous. We were less than a year away from getting shot of him.
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I honestly don't think there is a worse 'striker' in the league unless Marco Boogers is back.
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He's like one of those old boxers who keeps getting battered, but doesn't realise he's old and past it.
Always looking to get back in the ring in the belief he has one more great fight in him, when everyone else knows he's washed up and has been for years.
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That needs to be his last ever game for us, 8 touches of the ball is disgusting.
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Hopefully Remi won't give a toss about reputations etc and the best Gabby can hope for is as a sub. Far too often now he's nothing more than a passenger.
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Gabby was only ever a one trick pony and that one redeeming feature has long gone. If he wasn't the token Brummie he would have been despatched three of four seasons ago.
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Worse than the fact he played, he was captain!! It's no wonder the rest of them perform so badly when he's meant to be their role model.
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Even carragher, Neville and lampard were proper taking the piss. The blokes an embarrassment and the sooner he gets out of our club the better
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Absolutely fucking awful tonight.
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I've just looked up his goal scoring record - since August 2010 he's scored 27 league goals from 153 games!! Yet despite such an embarrassing record he's averaged 30 games a season.
How the hell does he keep getting picked? I'm starting to think bringing Jordan Bowery back would give us more of a goal threat!
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Get rid. I'm sick of wasters stealing a living out of Aston Villa. This guy is the worst culprit of the lot.
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I've just looked up his goal scoring record - since August 2010 he's scored 27 league goals from 153 games!! Yet despite such an embarrassing record he's averaged 30 games a season.
How the hell does he keep getting picked? I'm starting to think bringing Jordan Bowery back would give us more of a goal threat!
Last thing of note he did was nobble that twat from One Direction.*
*Exaggerated for comedic purposes
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Captain's are supposed to inspire. Gabby is a lazy halfwit. Shocking Tonight.
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Who the heck are the 110 people wanting to keep him on? Must be watching a different sport to me.
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A new manager arrives at the club and Gabby had a chance to impress him. Yet he totaled 8 touches of the ball in the first half, two being kick offs. It simply sends the message he no longer gives a fuck.
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K'Mac claiming Gabby was injured.
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K'Mac claiming Gabby was injured.
It's true, he's been struggling with a long-term ability problem.
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K'Mac claiming Gabby was injured.
Well why the fuck did you start him then Kevin?
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Sunderland, January transfer window - calling it now.
He's got Bolton or Blackburn written all over him.
The size of him these days, you could probably get the entire championship team list across his arse.
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let go
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A new manager arrives at the club and Gabby had a chance to impress him. Yet he totaled 8 touches of the ball in the first half, two being kick offs. It simply sends the message he no longer gives a fuck.
It simply sends the message he no longer gets a kick. Blame all you want if he has the ball and wastes it but we need to look at those around him and ask why he doesn't get the ball. The same can be said for Gestede. He may have touched it more but it was bouncing off his head from the hoofing up to him. The service our strikers get is still absolutely shocking.
Hopefully things will change once we finally have a plan.
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Gabby has coasted along at the club for too long. Get rid. Typifies all that is wrong with the club, happy to collect his money, happy to maintain the status quo.
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He's out of here. Dead weight, with the emphasis on the latter.
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I reckon there's still a decent player in Gabby. And that player is Kozak, as Gabby has eaten him. Which explains why we never see Kozak and Gabby is rather portly these days.
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I reckon there's still a decent player in Gabby. And that player is Kozak, as Gabby has eaten him. Which explains why we never see Kozak and Gabby is rather portly these days.
That made me laugh.
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Gabby was a joke last night - Lampard, Carragher and Neville were pissing themselves at his contribution.
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Gabby was embarrassing last night.
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Made me laugh too PWS which under the present circumstances is no mean achievement. Reminded me of a scene in Men in Black.
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K'Mac claiming Gabby was injured.
Has he been injured for the last 5 years?
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I'm sure Houllier will have advised Garde about Gabby beforehand, and I would hope that his "performance" against Spurs will be the final nail in his coffin. Time to move on.
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Made me laugh too PWS which under the present circumstances is no mean achievement. Reminded me of a scene in Men in Black.
It made me laugh too, however I also laughed out loud when Neville pointed out that 2 of Gabby's 8 touches came from kick offs, which shouldn't have happened but had it not, I'd probably have burst into tears.
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He has to go. There is no room for sentimentality in football today and it is obvious when a player is past his best as younger fitter players come along and expose their weaknesses. Top flight players have only 4 to 5 seasons in them these days and with Gabby this is clearly evident x
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This all makes for depressing reading. I watched a bit of the second half whilst having my brekkie and getting ready to go to work. There was one period where we seemed unable to get the ball at all off spurs. Then you had Sinclair down the left holding off three spurs players and no one showing for a pass or offering support. We didn't look bad, just very unlikely to create anything, which when you're 2-0 down just means you won't get gubbed, but you'll still lose, so just as pointless really.
Above all else that worries me, is we have gone shit again at the back. Guzan used to be reliable insofar as he would pull off 2-3 goal-stopping saves a game and keep us in the game to a degree and the defence had confidence in him. That seems to have disappeared now and we're poor again at the back. The attacking side of things should come back with better selections and tactics and preparation, but if you're almost guaranteed to ship 1 or 2 goals every game, that's a big, big worry.
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Problem is who is going to buy the shite? He's got 2-3 seasons of contract hasn't he? This is why we are so shit too many crap players under long term deals
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Strip him of the captaincy for a start .
Then look into tearing up his contract.
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We need a shotgun and a woodshed.
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Problem is who is going to buy the shite? He's got 2-3 seasons of contract hasn't he? This is why we are so shit too many crap players under long term deals
There are lots of mug punters who probably think he is still better than he was. Step forward Sunderland or Newcastle or Bournemouth if they continue to hit the buffers.
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When you read Kevin 's pre match interview Gabby was a certain to start come what may our problem is we look toothless with or with out him up front. I don't think he has the desire to succeed anymore. At the moment I would play without a striker anything to shore us up one point is better than what we've had from 7 straight defeats.
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When you read Kevin 's pre match interview Gabby was a certain to start come what may our problem is we look toothless with or with out him up front. I don't think he has the desire to succeed anymore. At the moment I would play without a striker anything to shore us up one point is better than what we've had from 7 straight defeats.
I think if all of your strikers are poor, you pick the one most likely to score. Gabby comes last on that as well.
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Gabby can be an impact player at worst. At best admittedly some time ago on a consistent level he's a menance . It does tie in with the poor play by villa the last few season s and yesterday the player seemed to be injured and was confirmed by kmac at half time that he had to com off with a calf injury.
I think Garde can develop him and would be good to see him perform again. Look at players like vardy and pelle who have improved with age and gabby has certain attributes and scored before against al the top teams lets not be hasty in writing him off when a new caoching team are coming in. If he does start he has to start as a striker . Certainly don't want a case of letting him go too soon like albrighton who is needed back at villa with his balls into box - again seeing him create for Leicester hopefully Garde knows a french equivalent.
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lets not be hasty in writing him off when a new caoching team are coming in. If he does start he has to start as a striker . Certainly don't want a case of letting him go too soon like albrighton who is needed back at villa with his balls into box - again seeing him create for Leicester hopefully Garde knows a french equivalent.
How many different coaching teams are going to be at fault for him being such a terrible footballer?
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He isn't a captain, full stop. I worry he thinks he rules the roost at Bodymoor Heath and isn't the best influence on new players, I can't imagine the French guys being impressed (apart from CNZ of course).
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He's never had a footballing brain, his lack of movement shows this,doubt if he's gonna develop one at 28. In his slimmer,quicker days he was a handful when he drifted out wide from centre, but that's far too long ago now. Shouldn't be anywhere near the starting 11.
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The only way Gabby is going to make an impact at the moment is if he trips over and does this:
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS960MHXP3thYPKBohBJpcUwR086xb94adAmTL5QEzOF1zj3z4h)
The lardy git.
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Has no desire, spends too much time working on his Physique. One of those horrible, bling, glamour boy footballers in it purely for money and not for medals. The ultimate waste of space.
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Compare him with Ayew, who ran into the channels, down blind alleys sometimes and got himself isolated from other claret and blue shirts, but kept working, kept kicking white shirted players, kept trying to take people on and then we a player of quality joined him on the pitch, he scored and went within a whisker of smashing a thunderbolt in that two keepers would not have stopped.
He's got guile, where Gabby has none, he has got the effort and the endeavor to keep working. He seems like an emotional player which likely brings out some sort of personal pride, where Gabby, again, looks vacant.
Houillier was right.
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I may be naive but think new coaching comes new ideas and chance to develop. If it's seen he's not suited then Garde will get him out of the team let's just see what Garde thinks shall we. Probably the most frustrating player at villa as I don't think he's rubbish but can always do better . we hear all the time that pace is a problem for defenders and he needs to be schooled in french football ways. I think it was said when Wenger came in his methods to the old school English players who had seen better days and revitalized them. This is the influence that can be hd on a player like Gabby with the right coaching staff. I'm sure the player as a villa man has pride as well as professional pride and if he's either revitalized as a striker or reinvented as an attacking winger then its a win win. If not then yes it has to be said he should be said he should be an impact sub .
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Bournemouth bound in January?
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Bournemouth bound in January?
I think he'd fit in well at Bolton alongside Heskey and Ameobi. Imagine having to watch those three.
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I hope you're right footyskillz. If it were true that there were no room for sentiment in football, we'd have jacked in the Villa in favour of supporting Chelsea long ago. Gabby has in the past been a consistent and effective performer even though probably the last time he did anything praiseworthy was the reducer on Louis Tomlinson.
His confidence looks shot though and the chance he made a mess of against Swansea is a good illustration of this where a few years ago you'd have expected him to put his left foot through it rather than the feeble attempt we saw with his right. That he's managed a couple of assists this season suggests he's not completely beyond redemption but it's up to him whether he can return to anything like the form of his early career.
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Bournemouth bound in January?
I think he'd fit in well at Bolton alongside Heskey and Ameobi. Imagine having to watch those three.
I don't have to, we've given more than a passing resemblance ourselves of late.
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His best days are obviously behind him, but that statistic about his feeble number of touches is equally damning of our midfield and the supply they get to our forwards. Garde will need to need to do more than just drop Gaby or Gestede to get us creating chances and scoring regularly.
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Can football players be sacked? If so, sack him.
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I honestly wouldn't keep him if he was on £500 a week. He offers NOTHING. He's no role model, he doesn't lead by example, he doesn't offer any experience to the younger players that I can see and basically offers nothing to the side at all
He's leached enough off the club to last ten lifetimes no doubt
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His best days are obviously behind him, but that statistic about his feeble number of touches is equally damning of our midfield and the supply they get to our forwards. Garde will need to need to do more than just drop Gaby or Gestede to get us creating chances and scoring regularly.
I still think the most damming statistic was getting outscored by Ivanhoe in Houllier's season when Ivanhoe actually played fewer games.
And if the 6 touches in open play is equally damming of our midfield, how come Ayew had beaten that inside 5 minutes without any tactical adjustments, just by showing some intelligent movement and basically looking like he gave a fuck.
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I think he's been a decent servant overall but he shouldn't be starting games now we have Sinclair and Ayew to choose from.
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Gabby has coasted along at the club for too long. Get rid. Typifies all that is wrong with the club, happy to collect his money, happy to maintain the status quo.
This
Frightening Lambert, sherwood and kmac kept picking him.
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I think he's been a decent servant overall but he shouldn't be starting games now we have Sinclair and Ayew to choose from.
That's what I think - they all do similar things, wide or central, quick, beating players and so on, but those two just do it better than Gabby.
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His best days are obviously behind him, but that statistic about his feeble number of touches is equally damning of our midfield and the supply they get to our forwards. Garde will need to need to do more than just drop Gaby or Gestede to get us creating chances and scoring regularly.
I still think the most damming statistic was getting outscored by Ivanhoe in Houllier's season when Ivanhoe actually played fewer games.
And if the 6 touches in open play is equally damming of our midfield, how come Ayew had beaten that inside 5 minutes without any tactical adjustments, just by showing some intelligent movement and basically looking like he gave a fuck.
Spot on ViD. The argument that it's other people's fault if forwards don't get in the game is highly simplistic and Ayew demonstrated that perfectly last night.
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Pay him off and fuck him off
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I will honestly be a worried man if Garde selects him in his first 16. Sinclair is better in every department than Gabby, therefore should start if fit. In Remi we trust!
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Pay him off and fuck him off
This
The longer we keep him the more he'll cost us on the pitch as well as off . He is a waste of a shirt.
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Get rid and fast. He's pulling others around him down with his casual, lazy, cant-be-arsed attitude
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We have a new manager so everyone should be given a chance to impress and earn a place in the team.
On that basis keep him for now.
If Garde has a looks at him and thinks he's past it/never had it then I'm sure he'll look to offload him along with any others that fall into the category (N'Zogbia/Richardson and Senderos immediately spring to mind)
I don't see him as a regular starter but he's probably on a par with Gestede - if he can be bothered
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Bournemouth bound in January?
we can dream but with the best part of 3 years left on his contract at what 40-50k a week he is going nowhere.
The fat git should be paid up and fucked off so he is nowhere the club, he symbolizes everything wrong with us.
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I will honestly be a worried man if Garde selects him in his first 16. Sinclair is better in every department than Gabby, therefore should start if fit. In Remi we trust!
Neither should be near our first team on current form. Both should be sent to work on their basic skills with the Under 8's.
Sinclair is probably the only footballer in England that has a worse first touch than Gabby.
Gabby can actually cross a ball.
Who would win in a sprint between the two I have no idea.
The best I can say about Sinclair's performance yesterday is that he put a shift in and for a couple of minutes looked like he was a footballer. I still think we'll never see anything from him whilst he's stuck out on the wing. Hopefully Remi can find a position for him that actually uses his natural goalscoring instinct. Otherwise, as somebody mentioned yesterday, he's a poor man's Charles N'Zogbia.
Gabby had a more than decent game against Swansea, totally committed, put in a great ball for Ayew to score but yesterday he was invisible. Six touches was a joke but he has to share the blame with the rest of the team. Remi needs first and foremost to get him fit. If he's carrying an injury he shouldn't be anywhere need the first team. If he's carrying too much weight, I'm sure Remi will soon know. Whether he can find an effective role for him is another matter.
First things first though, get them both working on the basics. Ball. Foot. Control. Pass.
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Sinclair is probably the only footballer in England that has a worse first touch than Gabby.
Gestede can trap a ball further than I can kick it.
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Just watched the clip of Carragher and Lampard sniggering in the background as Neville tells it like it is about his 9 touches in 45 mins. Made me laugh to be fair, Gabby is becoming some court jester to the football community. You would hope that type of thing might spur him on to improve but I'm not holding my breath. This really is a footballer that has died on his arse and I'm not sure he's turned 30 yet.
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Sinclair is probably the only footballer in England that has a worse first touch than Gabby.
Gestede can trap a ball further than I can kick it.
Gestede appears to have been fitted with an unfinished version of Match Day II's "Diamond Deflection System" built into him.
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I will honestly be a worried man if Garde selects him in his first 16. Sinclair is better in every department than Gabby, therefore should start if fit. In Remi we trust!
Neither should be near our first team on current form. Both should be sent to work on their basic skills with the Under 8's.
Sinclair is probably the only footballer in England that has a worse first touch than Gabby.
Gabby can actually cross a ball.
Who would win in a sprint between the two I have no idea.
The best I can say about Sinclair's performance yesterday is that he put a shift in and for a couple of minutes looked like he was a footballer. I still think we'll never see anything from him whilst he's stuck out on the wing. Hopefully Remi can find a position for him that actually uses his natural goalscoring instinct. Otherwise, as somebody mentioned yesterday, he's a poor man's Charles N'Zogbia.
Gabby had a more than decent game against Swansea, totally committed, put in a great ball for Ayew to score but yesterday he was invisible. Six touches was a joke but he has to share the blame with the rest of the team. Remi needs first and foremost to get him fit. If he's carrying an injury he shouldn't be anywhere need the first team. If he's carrying too much weight, I'm sure Remi will soon know. Whether he can find an effective role for him is another matter.
First things first though, get them both working on the basics. Ball. Foot. Control. Pass.
I know it's opinion and all, but I think that's a very harsh assessment of Sinclair. He was basically isolated on the left wing all game, forced to deal with two or three players every time, and with pretty much nobody offering him an out ball. He's never been a tricky, creative winger - he's a goalscorer.
I find the point about him being out on the left being a misuse of his goalscoring instinct a bit curious as well - all of his goals this season (yeah, I know a few were penalties) were when he was on the pitch as a left winger. I think it's quite clear that he's one of those players who find it easier to find space by moving in from the left flank into goalscoring positions, rather than starting centrally and trying to get away from the centre backs.
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Keep him... away from the cookie jar!
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Sinclair is probably the only footballer in England that has a worse first touch than Gabby.
Gestede can trap a ball further than I can kick it.
Gestede appears to have been fitted with an unfinished version of Match Day II's "Diamond Deflection System" built into him.
Showing your age there Lee!
I actually think it's quite sad that Gabby is viewed the way he is by Villa fans (with a good chunk of it being his own fault). He could have been our Steve Bull or Gerrard (ok, with a lot less talent) instead of how he is viewed now.
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Keep him... away from the cookie jar!
reminded me of this...
UTV
The Doc
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I have never seen Mr Blobby, Grant Holt and Gabby in the same room
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at the same time!
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I have never seen Mr Blobby, Grant Holt and Gabby in the same room
Well yeah, they wouldn't fit.
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Sinclair is probably the only footballer in England that has a worse first touch than Gabby.
Gestede can trap a ball further than I can kick it.
Gestede appears to have been fitted with an unfinished version of Match Day II's "Diamond Deflection System" built into him.
Showing your age there Lee!
I actually think it's quite sad that Gabby is viewed the way he is by Villa fans (with a good chunk of it being his own fault). He could have been our Steve Bull or Gerrard (ok, with a lot less talent) instead of how he is viewed now.
He IS our Steve Bull - a player who looks like he belongs in the third tier!
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Does today mark the start of the end for Gabby?
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Does today mark the start of the end for Gabby?
Fingers crossed
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Does today mark the start of the end for Gabby?
It would be nice to think we finally have a manager who will see he's clearly not good enough.
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I can imagine Robbie D looking at Gabby and thinking he's a fat fuck, not fit to play let alone be captain.
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Injured.
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Maybe they're allowing him to get over his injury, get him up to speed and give him a bit of confidence. One thing about Gabby, he always manages to come back and shove the insults down the throats of those that doubt him. Can he do it again? I think so.
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Ive got no anamosity towards Gab, but yes i think (and hope) that this is the sign of things to come.
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Maybe they're allowing him to get over his injury, get him up to speed and give him a bit of confidence. One thing about Gabby, he always manages to come back and shove the insults down the throats of those that doubt him. Can he do it again? I think so.
kidding aside, and we've all taken shots* I really hope he has something left in the tank and he does come back and contribute.
*insert joke here about us having taken more shots than Gabby
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Maybe they're allowing him to get over his injury, get him up to speed and give him a bit of confidence. One thing about Gabby, he always manages to come back and shove the insults down the throats of those that doubt him. Can he do it again? I think so.
Maybe for one game, then he'll go back to being shite for the next 30. Get rid, he epitomises Villa in the 2010s.
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Ive got no anamosity towards Gab, but yes i think (and hope) that this is the sign of things to come.
I do. If he gave a shit about the club that's made him very rich over the last 10 years or so he might have bothered to sort himself out in the last 4 years. Could've been a legend, couldn't be arsed. Bye.
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garde is no fool and will see gabby for what he is namely an overweight poor excuse of a footballer
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Gabby will be a sub player from now on, hopefully same for Sinclair who is just as bad imo.
Is Adama totally out of the question now, do the club not want to pay him with his rumoured wage rise?
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Gabby will be a sub player from now on, hopefully same for Sinclair who is just as bad imo.
Is Adama totally out of the question now, do the club not want to pay him with his rumoured wage rise?
Is that a joke or are people really suggesting that Traore is due a wage rise after 2 substitute appearances in the league and 1 start in the league cup?
Christ we should get his agent negotiating contracts on our behalf instead of Almstadt.
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Let Patrick get him in shape and hopefully couple of months out of action will motivate him to work hard and get his form back.
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Gabby will be a sub player from now on, hopefully same for Sinclair who is just as bad imo.
Is Adama totally out of the question now, do the club not want to pay him with his rumoured wage rise?
Is that a joke or are people really suggesting that Traore is due a wage rise after 2 substitute appearances in the league and 1 start in the league cup?
Christ we should get his agent negotiating contracts on our behalf instead of Almstadt.
Yeah, I thought he was taking the piss at first in a 'why didn't Barry take the pen' vein. But having read it posted a couple of times now I'm beginning to think he's serious.
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I understand that there was a clause in Barry's contract that stipulated that one more goal from a penalty would result in us having to buy Charles N'Zogbia for £9m and pay him £60k per week for 5 years.
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We now have a manager who is likely unaware of his past glories. If and when he gets back in the team, it'll solely be because he merits inclusion. Over to you, Gabby....
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We now have a manager who is likely unaware of his past glories. If and when he gets back in the team, it'll solely be because he merits inclusion. Over to you, Gabby....
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!! ??? ??? ??? ???
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lt would be nice to see a lean mean gabby chomping at the bit for a couple more years , probably a bit part player ,
he has been a decent servant for us to be fair
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We now have a manager who is likely unaware of his past glories.
Why do you think that Rémi Garde would be unaware of Agbonlahor's footballing achievements?
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We now have a manager who is likely unaware of his past glories. If and when he gets back in the team, it'll solely be because he merits inclusion. Over to you, Gabby....
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!! ??? ??? ??? ???
I was trying to be nice!
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Can only see him playing again if we have an injury crisis up front. He just doesn't contribute. He's got away with it for ages.
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The irony is, that, when fit and can be arsed, he is probably the one player who could score the half dozen or so goals to get us moving again before we can buy in January. For example, a 5 years ago Gabby would be better leading the line than Ayew who I still believe is more of a winger. But that first line above is a very big if!
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Has Gabby ever lead the line for us for an extended period of time though? When he came through, he mostly played out right. Once Carew came, he played off him. Houllier and McLeish I think mostly played him on the left. It was a pretty similar situation with Lambert and Benteke, IIRC.
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He played there under MO'N when he first arrived I think. Seemed to remember him doing it well.
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He did it under MON, also under under McLeish when Bent was crocked.
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He's just not good enough. He won't be going anywhere yet, but I imagine if we survive, he'll be gone.
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When Gabby is on form he's virtually unplayable and wins us games. The problem is that every season those games are becoming more and more infrequent.
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I recall Gabby playing up front on his own in some away games, playing well and scoring the winner. I think he's done it at Liverpool and Arsenal in the past.
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Old Trafford, too. He used to be excellent up top on his own and I'm still convinced O'Neill signing Heskey and going 442 cost us top four that year.
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Gabby currently isn't good enough, but he does strike you as a confidence player and someone that can be easily influenced.
Apparently Remi is the sort of Manager that can make you feel like a world Beater, so I think he can get something out of him until were in a position to make some changes.
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Another player who needs some time running up and down the steps of the Holte.
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Now here's an interesting stat.....
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-gabby-agbonlahor-more-10468154?
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If the article acknowledges that 8 months includes the summer then why say at all he hasn't scored in 8 months? And I'm not suggesting a more accurate 5 months is good, because it isn't.
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So he's injured and not dropped. That's a worry. He could still be undroppable.
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There's no doubting that's a pretty damning statistic but in his defence he often takes a yellow card for the team when we're caught out, caught on the break. Still pretty pish!
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It would be interesting to find out what Remi Garde's view and plan for Gabby.
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We'll find out if/when he declares himself fit.
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It would be interesting to find out what Remi Garde's view and plan for Gabby.
It will the first time in Gabby's career he's worked with a half decent coach. There can't be that many players with his number of appearances that have worked with so many clueless managers/coaches. Better late than never.
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It would be interesting to find out what Remi Garde's view and plan for Gabby.
It will the first time in Gabby's career he's worked with a half decent coach. There can't be that many players with his number of appearances that have worked with so many clueless managers/coaches. Better late than never.
i laughed when I first read this, but on cold reflection, what a shocking enditement of what we've had over the last few years. MON got the best out of him, but he was young and enthusiastic then, the only other half decent coach - Houllier - didn;t get on with him at all. It will be interesting to see if Remi can do anything and moreover whether Gabby is up for the challenge after cruising for so long.
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Time for him to go for me. If it's true that he's somehow in a huff with the new manager, he really should hang his head in shame. As the senior pro at the club he should be setting an example to others, even if he's not playing. Can't see another prem team taking him though, even top championship clubs will probably steer clear.
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Talk of Brighton being interested, even their fans don't want him.
Would imagine he'll get loaned out somewhere with maybe a view to buy or the loaned club taking over his contract.
He is done for here.
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It'll be another week before he finishes his Christmas dinner so any talk of transfers are on hold.
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Glue factory
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Talk of Brighton being interested, even their fans don't want him.
Would imagine he'll get loaned out somewhere with maybe a view to buy or the loaned club taking over his contract.
He is done for here.
the key point in all this is if he wants to leave.
gabby do you want to drop down a league and take at least a 50% pay cut
or sit here on your big fat arse
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He won't play for us again. Get him loaned out and let him try his piss taking attitude with another manager/club.
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do you want to go out on loan gabby?
nah not really
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It'll be another week before he finishes his Christmas dinner so any talk of transfers are on hold.
And another sad piece of hyperbole that makes me laugh far more than it should.
We all know he needs to finish Christmas Lunch by the 29th to make room for the New Year's Eve festivities.
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Seen on the BBC gossip round up that three clubs in the UAE are interested in him, doesn't state what sort of clubs they are though.
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Seen on the BBC gossip round up that three clubs in the UAE are interested in him, doesn't state what sort of clubs they are though.
Can imagine Gabby being an exceptionally good traveller. He'd have the time of his life playing abroad...
He'd be lost in Birmingham Airport and end up living there for a year like Tom Hanks in The Terminal...But at least he'd have a McDonalds at hand to keep him from wasting away
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His time with the club is almost certainly at an end, he has traded on his supposed allegiance to Villa long enough without ever really justifying the hype, it has taken a dispassionate outsider to see this and act accordingly. Bye Gabby, i do believe he underachieved somewhat.
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He'll be lining up against Villa next season for Walsall, Wolves, Cov or Burton
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I'd walk him to the first services on the M6 myself, totally overrated and has lived on the fact that he was a local player for years. Originally had pace and moderate skill, now just as hasbeen who grabs his weekly wages without giving anything back.
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UAE would suit him down to the ground, a nation built on sand, no class, no substance just a glossy veneer.
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It has been a long slow painful demise over a few years but his time is up as a top flight player. I don't even think he would fit the bill as an experienced Premier league player for a newly promoted side in the summer. His petulant performance against Small Heath this season showed all the frustration of a decent player past his best.
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Keep him.
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Play him away to Sunderland as he's scored the last 3 times we've played there, then get rid.
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UAE would suit him down to the ground, a nation built on sand, no class, no substance just a glossy veneer.
That's very harsh. Yes, his game, based on pace, has tailed off but I won't forget his early years. West Brom and Blues fans hated him for one reason, he always scored against them. Can you think of any other glossy veneer we might sign that can score 73 goals for us. I'm being polite as I can be here.
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I can think of a lot that would score 73 goals in over 300 games. I'll always have a lot of fond memories of Gabby, but there's no hiding he's been shit for years.
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I can think of a lot that would score 73 goals in over 300 games. I'll always have a lot of fond memories of Gabby, but there's no hiding he's been shit for years.
He has been but it isn't his fault he was kept on longer than he should gave been. I don't think the analogy was fair though. Quiz time then, who has scored more for us in the premiership era?
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He didn't stay motivated to the cause. His age isn't the issue or time at the club. He just lost interest and he's no longer an asset.
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I can think of a lot that would score 73 goals in over 300 games. I'll always have a lot of fond memories of Gabby, but there's no hiding he's been shit for years.
He has been but it isn't his fault he was kept on longer than he should gave been. I don't think the analogy was fair though. Quiz time then, who has scored more for us in the premiership era?
Double quiz time then, what attackers have played anywhere near 300+ games for us.
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I can think of a lot that would score 73 goals in over 300 games. I'll always have a lot of fond memories of Gabby, but there's no hiding he's been shit for years.
He has been but it isn't his fault he was kept on longer than he should gave been. I don't think the analogy was fair though. Quiz time then, who has scored more for us in the premiership era?
Double quiz time then, what attackers have played anywhere near 300+ games for us.
I don't know the answer to my question so haven't got much a clue with yours! Just the terms no class, no substance etc in the original post was harsh for a guy who game his all until his one attribute (pace) let him down. I personally doubt he has lost interest, he just can't do it anymore.
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Is he still here?
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It's a mystery why the previous 3 managers saw him as undroppable especially Lambert who even gave him a new contract. How come he wasn't in the bomb squad with the other high earners? What was stopping them doing what Garde has done with him?
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I agree WV, I think the problem is that he's been so shit for so long that it's tainting memories of him for some people.
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I can think of a lot that would score 73 goals in over 300 games. I'll always have a lot of fond memories of Gabby, but there's no hiding he's been shit for years.
He has been but it isn't his fault he was kept on longer than he should gave been. I don't think the analogy was fair though. Quiz time then, who has scored more for us in the premiership era?
Double quiz time then, what attackers have played anywhere near 300+ games for us.
I don't know the answer to my question so haven't got much a clue with yours! Just the terms no class, no substance etc in the original post was harsh for a guy who game his all until his one attribute (pace) let him down. I personally doubt he has lost interest, he just can't do it anymore.
So he was basically an athlete playing professional football?
An athlete of whom we're saying his legs have gone at the age of 29?
An athlete whose sole asset has been on the wane for 4 years or more?
An athlete who's looked ever more out of condition with each passing pre-season?
That to me reeks of doesn't want it anymore rather than can't do it anymore.
Apart from those who've suffered career threatening injuries I can't recall anyone who's fallen off the edge of the cliff as spectacularly as Gabby.
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I can think of a lot that would score 73 goals in over 300 games. I'll always have a lot of fond memories of Gabby, but there's no hiding he's been shit for years.
He has been but it isn't his fault he was kept on longer than he should gave been. I don't think the analogy was fair though. Quiz time then, who has scored more for us in the premiership era?
Double quiz time then, what attackers have played anywhere near 300+ games for us.
I don't know the answer to my question so haven't got much a clue with yours! Just the terms no class, no substance etc in the original post was harsh for a guy who game his all until his one attribute (pace) let him down. I personally doubt he has lost interest, he just can't do it anymore.
So he was basically an athlete playing professional football?
An athlete of whom we're saying his legs have gone at the age of 29?
An athlete whose sole asset has been on the wane for 4 years or more?
An athlete who's looked ever more out of condition with each passing pre-season?
That to me reeks of doesn't want it anymore rather than can't do it anymore.
Apart from those who've suffered career threatening injuries I can't recall anyone who's fallen off the edge of the cliff as spectacularly as Gabby.
His pace has gone, no doubt he can still run around but with little impact. When your legs have gone you can't even do that. His pace was his major attribute, he didn't bamboozle defenders with trickery that's for sure. He reminds me of Craig Bellamy.
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Craig Bellamy was a far better footballer than Gabby IMHO
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Craig Bellamy was a far better footballer than Gabby IMHO
Not even in the same league.
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Craig Bellamy was a far better footballer than Gabby IMHO
Not even in the same league.
Who lol?
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I can think of a lot that would score 73 goals in over 300 games. I'll always have a lot of fond memories of Gabby, but there's no hiding he's been shit for years.
He has been but it isn't his fault he was kept on longer than he should gave been. I don't think the analogy was fair though. Quiz time then, who has scored more for us in the premiership era?
Double quiz time then, what attackers have played anywhere near 300+ games for us.
I don't know the answer to my question so haven't got much a clue with yours! Just the terms no class, no substance etc in the original post was harsh for a guy who game his all until his one attribute (pace) let him down. I personally doubt he has lost interest, he just can't do it anymore.
So he was basically an athlete playing professional football?
An athlete of whom we're saying his legs have gone at the age of 29?
An athlete whose sole asset has been on the wane for 4 years or more?
An athlete who's looked ever more out of condition with each passing pre-season?
That to me reeks of doesn't want it anymore rather than can't do it anymore.
Apart from those who've suffered career threatening injuries I can't recall anyone who's fallen off the edge of the cliff as spectacularly as Gabby.
His pace has gone, no doubt he can still run around but with little impact. When your legs have gone you can't even do that. His pace was his major attribute, he didn't bamboozle defenders with trickery that's for sure. He reminds me of Craig Bellamy.
Well if you're talking Douglas Badder style, I'd agree, otherwise I'd use the phrase to mean someone who can't get around the pitch as they used to.
Regardless we're still talking about someone who lost sprinter like speed at an age (24-28) when most athletes would be approaching their peak.
He's either unusually unlucky (apart from his fat pay packet) or maybe not quite so dedicated as you might want, something hinted at all the way back to Houllier's time.
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Craig Bellamy was a far better footballer than Gabby IMHO
Not even in the same league.
Who lol?
As objectionable as Bellamy could be, golf club celebration anyone, he exhibited more football intelligence in pretty much any given match than Gabby manages in a season. He also looked after himself to still be using his primary asset, speed, we'll past his 30th birthday despite constant niggles with hamstring injuries.
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Craig Bellamy was a far better footballer than Gabby IMHO
Not even in the same league.
Who lol?
As objectionable as Bellamy could be, golf club celebration anyone, he exhibited more football intelligence in pretty much any given match than Gabby manages in a season. He also looked after himself to still be using his primary asset, speed, we'll past his 30th birthday despite constant niggles with hamstring injuries.
Totally agree
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Get rid. Busted flush and had it way too easy because he's supposed to be one of us? He looks like a walking attitude problem. Put more in, get more out Gabby.
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Craig Bellamy was a far better footballer than Gabby IMHO
Not even in the same league.
Who lol?
I was actually agreeing with you. They're are leagues apart as footballers .
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Craig Bellamy was a far better footballer than Gabby IMHO
Not even in the same league.
Who lol?
I was actually agreeing with you. They're are leagues apart as footballers .
I did hope so mate
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I defended Gabby every time opinion turned against him, until now. He scored some important goals, terrified the opposition with his speed, and put the work in as a wide player with defensive duties.
Remember that the newspapers were asking for his reaction to getting booed by his own fans many years ago. He came back from that, and silenced a few critics.
Just imagine what Remi Garde, desperately looking to "energise the group" must have thought when he encountered Gabby's current incarnation. Basically a slack jawed energy hoover whose drive and charisma vary inversely with his ever expanding girth.
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He seems to have been like this for some time though, Houllier sussed him out
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The fact that he yelled about Houllier's observations should have told us how it was going to be. Houllier was his manager with every right to comment on his weight.
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A busted flush.
Get rid to a mug punter if possible.
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Gabby was a very useful player and there's no reason physically that he couldn't be again. But mentally he clearly doesn't have the attitude and application, so there's no way he can return to what he was. Therefore he's got to go.
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A long-term player, many appearances under his belt, and (am I correct to think?) he's our top Premier League scorer.
None of that helps us now - get rid.
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Plus he's 29 and dresses like a fucking chav gangsta. Begone! To Wolverhampton Wanderers. If they'll have you.
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the point is apart from the middle east who would have him at even half his current wage?
talk of loaning him out is pie in the sky - he has got to agree to it which he wont and why would he as football is obviously not his number one priority
i would cancel the wankers contract tomorrow and pay him off, fuck me nzog has cost us 25 million so a few million to get rid off gabby would be money well spent
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Who the hell would take him off our hands?
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Who the hell extended his contract
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There will be a taker at £3m I would imagine, or, somewhere on loan which is more likely. Wolves wouldn't be a bad shout.
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No chance he will go! Sitting on a fat contract that pays for hid numerous dalliances and their results over the years. He is not going to take half the money elsewhere.
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There will be a taker at £3m I would imagine, or, somewhere on loan which is more likely. Wolves wouldn't be a bad shout.
why would any club take him on loan? unless we pay the vast majority of his wages which defeats the object.
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Pay him up and fuck him off
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There will be a taker at £3m I would imagine, or, somewhere on loan which is more likely. Wolves wouldn't be a bad shout.
3m would be as good as tearing up his contract & paying him off.... I'd bite their hand off if anyone was to offer that .
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There will be a taker at £3m I would imagine, or, somewhere on loan which is more likely. Wolves wouldn't be a bad shout.
3m would be as good as tearing up his contract & paying him off.... I'd bite their hand off if anyone was to offer that .
pay 3 million and match his current wage hhhmmm
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I'd have in the team before Gestede. I honestly believe he'd offer us more. I know that's not saying much but there you go. We really are that pointless in attack.
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I'd play him at Sunderland. Got a decent record against that mob.
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I'd play him at Sunderland. Got a decent record against that mob.
...and then pay him off and fuck him off?
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No chance he will go! Sitting on a fat contract that pays for his numerous dalliances and their results over the years. He is not going to take half the money elsewhere.
You're right. He's got a good thing here, earning a shit load for not really doing anything.
(http://i63.tinypic.com/2qckt21.jpg)
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we need to pay the fat fucker off
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As shit as he has been , at this point I would at least have him on the bench and ahead of Gestede and that lightweight muppet Sinclair.
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Agbonlahor is going nowhere.He will keep quiet and patiently wait for Garde to be dispensed with then it's business as normal.Another one he has seen off bring on the next one
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I hope he is not on 65 k a week that a lot of ,our posters ,think he is. I think that his latest contract was on much reduced terms. I just like to know what ,he's thinking at the moment ,and if he can be bothered to try and turn his form around.
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With Ayew banned he has to be in the squad for Sunderland doesn't he? If he's not then thats clearest signal yet Garde thinks he really is a bad apple. Funny, never imagined he was (Ville through and through and all that) but could he be a key part of the malaise that has swept over us the last 5 years?
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No chance he will go! Sitting on a fat contract that pays for his numerous dalliances and their results over the years. He is not going to take half the money elsewhere.
You're right. He's got a good thing here, earning a shit load for not really doing anything.
(http://i63.tinypic.com/2qckt21.jpg)
How can anyone enjoy Christmas reading that.
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Agbonlahor is going nowhere.He will keep quiet and patiently wait for Garde to be dispensed with then it's business as normal.Another one he has seen off bring on the next one
How far is he behind Charlie Aitkens record?
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About 250 league games.
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I'd pay his contract up. It would make a statement and put the fear of god up the rest of them if one of the "untouchables" was let go. I realise Lerner would shudder at the thought, but he's going to be nigh on useless for the length of his contact anyway so it's dead money. Watching him sign for Bradford or similar for 2k a week, when he spends that on clothes, may spread a bit of cold hard reality amongst the squad
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About 250 league games.
No chance if him breaking it then. Would be travesty if he got it after years of offering half arsed displays
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I'd pay his contract up. It would make a statement and put the fear of god up the rest of them if one of the "untouchables" was let go. I realise Lerner would shudder at the thought, but he's going to be nigh on useless for the length of his contact anyway so it's dead money. Watching him sign for Bradford or similar for 2k a week, when he spends that on clothes, may spread a bit of cold hard reality amongst the squad
Say we 'owe' him 7m for the rest of his contract, serious question to all would it be worth fucking him off for say 4m?
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Rather than pay him up to let him go sign for somebody else they should give him a uniform and have him working one of the food concessions at the ground.
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I'd pay his contract up. It would make a statement and put the fear of god up the rest of them if one of the "untouchables" was let go. I realise Lerner would shudder at the thought, but he's going to be nigh on useless for the length of his contact anyway so it's dead money. Watching him sign for Bradford or similar for 2k a week, when he spends that on clothes, may spread a bit of cold hard reality amongst the squad
Say we 'owe' him 7m for the rest of his contract, serious question to all would it be worth fucking him off for say 4m?
He wouldn't take that i reckon. way i see it, if you get your contract paid up in full, you get hammered on the tax. Any pensions, tax saving schemes etc., designed to see out the length of your contract are fucked up. You suddenly have 4m after tax in the bank but no income and the outgoings of someone on £40k a week. Money soon goes unless he curtails the "prem" footballer lifestyle
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Rather than pay him up to let him go sign for somebody else they should give him a uniform and have him working one of the food concessions at the ground.
I wonder if we really could do that.
Legal bods any idea? Surely an employment law minefield.
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Rather than pay him up to let him go sign for somebody else they should give him a uniform and have him working one of the food concessions at the ground.
A lot of pies would go missing I think.
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I am and never was a big fan of his, however can he actually do worse than Sinclair and Rude up front?
This is just a measure of how far we have fallen
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He was in our property chain when I moved house in the summer (buying our buyer's house to then rent out). Apparently he's big into the property thing and has no desire to leave the area. We're stuck with him.
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Keep, he will be useful in the championship
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Keep, he will be useful in the championship
What as?
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Rather than pay him up to let him go sign for somebody else they should give him a uniform and have him working one of the food concessions at the ground.
A lot of pies would go missing I think.
Good point, hadn't considered he'd end up costing us even more.
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He was in our property chain when I moved house in the summer (buying our buyer's house to then rent out). Apparently he's big into the property thing and has no desire to leave the area. We're stuck with him.
An old fellah sitting beside me when he last waddled around the pitch wryly observed "Jayzus, he is as wide as he is long".
At this rate, in three managers time, he will be the size of a small planet, and he will be texting in special signs for fat thumbed fucks who don't know any words.
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His performances started going down hill a long time ago but since lambert started making him captain and then they made him club captain his effort level has hit the floor.
If he won't leave and wants to see his contract out, I would leave him out of the squad and tell him to stay at home and just put his wage slip in the post to him. That would be the end of his career but the stupid bloke wouldn't realise it.
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His performances started going down hill a long time ago but since lambert started making him captain and then they made him club captain his effort level has hit the floor.
If he won't leave and wants to see his contract out, I would leave him out of the squad and tell him to stay at home and just put his wage slip in the post to him. That would be the end of his career but the stupid bloke wouldn't realise it.
Wise words, omvf.
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Keep, he will be useful in the championship
What as?
Corner flag.
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Keep, he will be useful in the championship
What as?
Corner flag.
He can rent out some of his properties to our new squad members. On matchdays he can model baseball caps in the window of Villa Village.
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There will be a taker at £3m I would imagine, or, somewhere on loan which is more likely. Wolves wouldn't be a bad shout.
why would any club take him on loan? unless we pay the vast majority of his wages which defeats the object.
Derby could afford him. We could also pay a portion but not all the wages. We had a similar problem with Bent. I can't remember what the deal was with wages though.
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There will be a taker at £3m I would imagine, or, somewhere on loan which is more likely. Wolves wouldn't be a bad shout.
why would any club take him on loan? unless we pay the vast majority of his wages which defeats the object.
Derby could afford him. We could also pay a portion but not all the wages. We had a similar problem with Bent. I can't remember what the deal was with wages though.
Any team in the top six of the championship will be looking to take a gamble come the end of the window, my bet is Sheffield Wed, you heard it here first!
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On what basis would Gabby constitute a good signing? He's bloody awful as a player, he makes no effort and his attitude stinks like my bedroom on a Sunday morning.
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He was in our property chain when I moved house in the summer (buying our buyer's house to then rent out). Apparently he's big into the property thing and has no desire to leave the area. We're stuck with him.
An old fellah sitting beside me when he last waddled around the pitch wryly observed "Jayzus, he is as wide as he is long".
At this rate, in three managers time, he will be the size of a small planet, and he will be texting in special signs for fat thumbed fucks who don't know any words.
Ok i'll say it first.
Gabba The Hutt
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Poor Gabby, way past his best indeed, but he's been turned into a scapegoat for all our problems and gets more grief than the real culprit at Villa.
Anyway, I'd play him at Sunderland. He's got a good record up there.
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The Farce is strong within him.
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So would I. Ayew is out, Gestede is useless and Kozak never gets a look in. Having said that, Garde will probably play Sinclair as a lone striker.
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I'd play him at Sunderland. He's got a good record up there.
When he is "struggling with his back"?
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Poor Gabby, way past his best indeed, but he's been turned into a scapegoat for all our problems and gets more grief than the real culprit at Villa.
Anyway, I'd play him at Sunderland. He's got a good record up there.
If Lerner were a player he'd be Agbonlahor.
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Poor Gabby, way past his best indeed, but he's been turned into a scapegoat for all our problems and gets more grief than the real culprit at Villa.
Anyway, I'd play him at Sunderland. He's got a good record up there.
If Lerner were a player he'd be Agbonlahor.
Na, he'd be a Joe Bennett or a Jordan Bowery or any of the shower of shit his austerity has caused us to sign over the last 5 years.
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Poor Gabby, way past his best indeed, but he's been turned into a scapegoat for all our problems and gets more grief than the real culprit at Villa.
Anyway, I'd play him at Sunderland. He's got a good record up there.
I honestly don't know of anyone that still defends Lerner but Gabby is the absolute epitome of what's gone wrong at the Villa over the last 5 years. Rewarded with contracts and positions of authority way above his ability, not progressed or adapted his game, become complacent, finally disappeared totally when the going got tough and drains the club of finances and good energy.
As I say, if one player summed up with way we've gone down the plug hole without so much as a murmer it's Gabby Agbonlahor.
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Poor Gabby, way past his best indeed, but he's been turned into a scapegoat for all our problems and gets more grief than the real culprit at Villa.
Anyway, I'd play him at Sunderland. He's got a good record up there.
I honestly don't know of anyone that still defends Lerner but Gabby is the absolute epitome of what's gone wrong at the Villa over the last 5 years. Rewarded with contracts and positions of authority way above his ability, not progressed or adapted his game, become complacent, finally disappeared totally when the going got tough and drains the club of finances and good energy.
As I say, if one player summed up with way we've gone down the plug hole without so much as a murmer it's Gabby Agbolahor.
I disagree. If you're looking for a player who sums up our decline it would be Brad Guzan. Rightly let go because he was shit then laughably brought back when we realised no decent PL keeper would join us on the pittance we pay in wages.
Gabby is past his best, no question, but the stick he gets is OTT considering the amount of goals he's scored for us over the years.
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I'd say sucking all that money out of the club for little return over the last five years is good enough reason to go "OTT".
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Rightly let go because he was shit then laughably brought back when we realised no decent PL keeper would join us on the pittance we pay in wages.
How much do you think the pittance that we're paying Gabby in wages is?
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I'd say sucking all that money out of the club for little return over the last five years is good enough reason to go "OTT".
He's not the cause of our decline.
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I'd say sucking all that money out of the club for little return over the last five years is good enough reason to go "OTT".
He's not the cause of our decline.
I thought that was Lerner? And it's a bit harsh pinning it all on a sub standard keeper.
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Rightly let go because he was shit then laughably brought back when we realised no decent PL keeper would join us on the pittance we pay in wages.
How much do you think the pittance that we're paying Gabby in wages is?
An awful lot. He's probably one of the few players we actually pay PL wages to. If we had any ambition we'd have got rid and replaced him with someone who isn't past his best.
That's the problem though isn't it, there's absolutely no ambition at Aston Villa, and we all know who's to blame for that.
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I'd say sucking all that money out of the club for little return over the last five years is good enough reason to go "OTT".
He's not the cause of our decline.
I thought that was Lerner? And it's a bit harsh pinning it all on a sub standard keeper.
I said he sums up our decline. If anyone ever needed a clue to what was wrong with our club it was the Guzan release/re-signing.
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He's not the cause of our decline.
No. But this thread is about whether or not we want to retain his ample arse at Villa Park. And it is an internet forum and we go over the top about things all the time. You are right to remind us of his many goals though. He was a great servant.
So ta Gabby. Now bugger off to Wolves!
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He's not the cause of our decline.
No. But this thread is about whether or not we want to retain his ample arse at Villa Park. And it is an internet forum and we go over the top about things all the time. You are right to remind us of his many goals though. He was a great servant.
So ta Gabby. Now bugger off to Wolves!
Okay fair enough. I just think he doesn't deserve all the stick he gets considering what he's done for us in the past.
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I'd say sucking all that money out of the club for little return over the last five years is good enough reason to go "OTT".
He's not the cause of our decline.
I thought that was Lerner? And it's a bit harsh pinning it all on a sub standard keeper.
I said he sums up our decline. If anyone ever needed a clue to what was wrong with our club it was the Guzan release/re-signing.
I think the fact that he's in goal this season, after he'd lost his place to a old man that was past his best and subsequently released, is more damning to be honest.
And that we were clearly trying to sign a replacement, and when that fell through we signed nobody. Same with Adebayor.
That's the really damning shit, we clearly identified two crucial areas to recruit for but when we failed with our targets we had no alternative.
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He's not the cause of our decline.
No. But this thread is about whether or not we want to retain his ample arse at Villa Park. And it is an internet forum and we go over the top about things all the time. You are right to remind us of his many goals though. He was a great servant.
So ta Gabby. Now bugger off to Wolves!
Okay fair enough. I just think he doesn't deserve all the stick he gets considering what he's done for us in the past.
Fuck him, he's lived off it for 5 years and he's taken the piss. He deserves as much vitriol as you reserve for the chairman.
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He's not the cause of our decline.
No. But this thread is about whether or not we want to retain his ample arse at Villa Park. And it is an internet forum and we go over the top about things all the time. You are right to remind us of his many goals though. He was a great servant.
So ta Gabby. Now bugger off to Wolves!
Okay fair enough. I just think he doesn't deserve all the stick he gets considering what he's done for us in the past.
Fuck him, he's lived off it for 5 years and he's taken the piss. He deserves as much vitriol as you reserve for the chairman.
Fair enough, and fuck Lerner as well - the true cause of our disgraceful humiliating decline.
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Some of the personal abuse of Gabby is uncalled for, as it is for the chairman or anyone else for that matter. However, Gabby is past his best and has been for a while.
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He's not the cause of our decline.
No. But this thread is about whether or not we want to retain his ample arse at Villa Park. And it is an internet forum and we go over the top about things all the time. You are right to remind us of his many goals though. He was a great servant.
So ta Gabby. Now bugger off to Wolves!
Okay fair enough. I just think he doesn't deserve all the stick he gets considering what he's done for us in the past.
Fuck him, he's lived off it for 5 years and he's taken the piss. He deserves as much vitriol as you reserve for the chairman.
Fair enough, and fuck Lerner as well - the true cause of our disgraceful humiliating decline.
Ultimately, yes, and there's fuck all we can do about it.
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Some of the personal abuse of Gabby is uncalled for, as it is for the chairman or anyone else for that matter. However, Gabby is past his best and has been for a while.
It is going to be like being in a meeting at work if we have to stop swearing and abusing people.
"Gabby is past his best"
"Yes, he should go"
"I would play him."
"I strongly disagree"
"OK then".
"Could a Moderator kindly close the thread please? We have finished."
;)
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Some of the personal abuse of Gabby is uncalled for, as it is for the chairman or anyone else for that matter. However, Gabby is past his best and has been for a while.
It is going to be like being in a meeting at work if we have to stop swearing and abusing people.
"Gabby is past his best"
"Yes, he should go"
"I would play him."
"I strongly disagree"
"OK then".
"Could a Moderator kindly close the thread please? We have finished."
;)
A pox on your first born sir, I demand satisfaction!
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We have Gabby and N'Zogbia both on a reported £65,000 a week in wages. Think of how much improved we would be in an attacking sense if we could bring two £65,000 quality players into the side on Saturday.
What a drain on resources they've both been for too long.
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Poor Gabby, way past his best indeed, but he's been turned into a scapegoat for all our problems and gets more grief than the real culprit at Villa.
Anyway, I'd play him at Sunderland. He's got a good record up there.
I honestly don't know of anyone that still defends Lerner but Gabby is the absolute epitome of what's gone wrong at the Villa over the last 5 years. Rewarded with contracts and positions of authority way above his ability, not progressed or adapted his game, become complacent, finally disappeared totally when the going got tough and drains the club of finances and good energy.
As I say, if one player summed up with way we've gone down the plug hole without so much as a murmer it's Gabby Agbolahor.
I disagree. If you're looking for a player who sums up our decline it would be Brad Guzan. Rightly let go because he was shit then laughably brought back when we realised no decent PL keeper would join us on the pittance we pay in wages.
Gabby is past his best, no question, but the stick he gets is OTT considering the amount of goals he's scored for us over the years.
Guzan has been a lot better for us over the last few years than Gabby imo. I'd also disagree he was "shit" when we let him go, he served us well over the 2011 xmas period when Given got an injury.
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Guzan was regarded as a well dodgy keeper wasn't he? We let him go and no one batted an eye lid, we re-signed him as a lazy and cheap option. A true Villa signing for the last half a decade, lazy and cheap.
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Guzan was regarded as a well dodgy keeper wasn't he? We let him go and no one batted an eye lid, we re-signed him as a lazy and cheap option. A true Villa signing for the last half a decade, lazy and cheap.
Spot on. It was lauded as some sort of coup by Lambert, when in reality nobody decent wanted him, and it stopped us having to spend proper money on a decent keeper. And that's where we are now, with easily the shittest keeper in the Premier League stinking out our net.
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I seem to remember a lot of people at the time saying what a good re-signing Guzan was and he was great when he first replaced Given. I think we possibly need a change now though.
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Poor Gabby, way past his best indeed, but he's been turned into a scapegoat for all our problems and gets more grief than the real culprit at Villa.
Anyway, I'd play him at Sunderland. He's got a good record up there.
I honestly don't know of anyone that still defends Lerner but Gabby is the absolute epitome of what's gone wrong at the Villa over the last 5 years. Rewarded with contracts and positions of authority way above his ability, not progressed or adapted his game, become complacent, finally disappeared totally when the going got tough and drains the club of finances and good energy.
As I say, if one player summed up with way we've gone down the plug hole without so much as a murmer it's Gabby Agbolahor.
I disagree. If you're looking for a player who sums up our decline it would be Brad Guzan. Rightly let go because he was shit then laughably brought back when we realised no decent PL keeper would join us on the pittance we pay in wages.
Gabby is past his best, no question, but the stick he gets is OTT considering the amount of goals he's scored for us over the years.
That's the thing tho , he hasn't really scored that many in 10yrs for us .
Put his goals to games ratio up against the likes of Yorke, Angel, Dublin, Carew & Benteke he is pretty average at best
He scored vital goals at vital times no doubt but he's never ever been consistent enough to have spent 10 yrs at one club
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Sell him to a Championship club, and prepare for the inevitable hat trick in front of the Holte End in August.
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Guzan was regarded as a well dodgy keeper wasn't he? We let him go and no one batted an eye lid, we re-signed him as a lazy and cheap option. A true Villa signing for the last half a decade, lazy and cheap.
Spot on. It was lauded as some sort of coup by Lambert, when in reality nobody decent wanted him, and it stopped us having to spend proper money on a decent keeper. And that's where we are now, with easily the shittest keeper in the Premier League stinking out our net.
totally agree
he was available for free and still nobody wanted hhm
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Sell him to a Championship club, and prepare for the inevitable hat trick in front of the Holte End in August.
And the even more inevitable "ssshhh" finger on lips celebration!
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Guzan was regarded as a well dodgy keeper wasn't he? We let him go and no one batted an eye lid, we re-signed him as a lazy and cheap option. A true Villa signing for the last half a decade, lazy and cheap.
Spot on. It was lauded as some sort of coup by Lambert, when in reality nobody decent wanted him, and it stopped us having to spend proper money on a decent keeper. And that's where we are now, with easily the shittest keeper in the Premier League stinking out our net.
totally agree
he was available for free and still nobody wanted hhm
Not long after he re-signed, there was a 'Brad Guzan Appreciation Thread' on here which you can still find if you look. It's mainly full of praise. People have short memories.
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Guzan was one of the reasons we stayed up in 12/13 and was fine for most of the next season. Yes his level has dropped lately but come on we had a worse keeper playing for us when we were top 6.
Signings like CNZ, Heskey, Habib Beye and....Shay Given have done far more damage to us than signing a reasonable keeper back on a free transfer.
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Gabby was like Collins and Dunne in that his best years were under MON, but struggled after MON's departure. He has done little for a few seasons now so needs to go - no way should he be a high earner and no way should he be captain.
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A couple of years ago i would have said Agbonlahor was championship level. I reckon he's slipped further since then.
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Guzan was regarded as a well dodgy keeper wasn't he? We let him go and no one batted an eye lid, we re-signed him as a lazy and cheap option. A true Villa signing for the last half a decade, lazy and cheap.
Spot on. It was lauded as some sort of coup by Lambert, when in reality nobody decent wanted him, and it stopped us having to spend proper money on a decent keeper. And that's where we are now, with easily the shittest keeper in the Premier League stinking out our net.
totally agree
he was available for free and still nobody wanted hhm
Not long after he re-signed, there was a 'Brad Guzan Appreciation Thread' on here which you can still find if you look. It's mainly full of praise. People have short memories.
Indeed - Guzan and Benteke were the main reasons we stayed up 2013 & 2014. I thought we re-signed him pretty quickly after his contract expired so it remained to be seen that 'nobody wanted him'.
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Poor Gabby, way past his best indeed, but he's been turned into a scapegoat for all our problems and gets more grief than the real culprit at Villa.
Anyway, I'd play him at Sunderland. He's got a good record up there.
I honestly don't know of anyone that still defends Lerner but Gabby is the absolute epitome of what's gone wrong at the Villa over the last 5 years. Rewarded with contracts and positions of authority way above his ability, not progressed or adapted his game, become complacent, finally disappeared totally when the going got tough and drains the club of finances and good energy.
As I say, if one player summed up with way we've gone down the plug hole without so much as a murmer it's Gabby Agbolahor.
I disagree. If you're looking for a player who sums up our decline it would be Brad Guzan. Rightly let go because he was shit then laughably brought back when we realised no decent PL keeper would join us on the pittance we pay in wages.
Gabby is past his best, no question, but the stick he gets is OTT considering the amount of goals he's scored for us over the years.
I take it you've got a concrete example of this from the time?
How many times? It's not the amount of money, it's the way it's been spent.
Lambert could have signed half the number of players for double the fees and wages and not started the "bomb squad " bollocks and the accounts would have read the same.
And whilst we're at it, maybe one day you'll answer the "how much more money should have been poured down the black hole?" question that you've been running away from for over a month now.
For the record I'm not defending Lerner. He's proven from day 1 that he's absolutely clueless when it comes to running sporting organisations and should stick to do doing the philanthropic stuff he seems to get more out of. I'm challenging your hopelessly simplistic "just throw money at it" solution which was the cause of all our problems to start with.
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I seem to remember a lot of people at the time saying what a good re-signing Guzan was and he was great when he first replaced Given. I think we possibly need a change now though.
He was resigned as cover for Given, not as no.1 - how many clubs outside of the usual suspects keep top class keepers as their back up. Did you see Liverpool's reserve keeper against Watford?
Early in Lambert's first season Given dropped a couple of howlers and was dropped by Lambert.
Guzan came in and looked a cut above, most impressively his command of the box, where he was coming and claiming stuff in a way we hadn't seen since David James.
For 18 months he was really good. Last season his form went downhill with the rest of the team's but didn't benefit from the charlatan shake up and culminated in his f##k up at Man City.
This season he's been, to put it politely, shit. Or on a par with most of his teammates.
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So 113 think keep?
Can you set up a separate board for them as either they are Blues/Baggies fans or don't have the same view of football as I do (wanting Villa to do well).
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Why do people like a player so much who does fuck all on the pitch for YOUR club.
I'm started to think some supporters actually like being shit.
I couldn't give a hoot whether he's scored vital goals against the blose, you get 3 points for winning any league game, where is this pea-brain then?
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I think Gabby deserves every ounce of the abuse he gets. The prick can't even keep weight off to be useful on a football pitch when he literally could pay someone to spoon feed him the correct food. The fat prick. See above for why he's a prick. A fat one.
As for Guzan I had no problem with him re-signing. He was actually recognised by a lot of people on here as a top 8 keeper at one point. He has been amazingly shit the last 1 and a half seasons though and I can't wait for a replacement. I'd even be playing Bunn now and I have no idea how good he is.
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the thing i hate most about gabby is that for how limited his game is he has done fuck all to even try and improve it. that isnt totally his fault, which begs the question what the fuck do our coaching staff actually do
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Guzan has never been a top keeper, not ever. Top 8 keeper? I think that says more about certain fans' judgement of players than anything else.
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Isn't he first choice of the USA?
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Guzan has never been a top keeper, not ever. Top 8 keeper? I think that says more about certain fans' judgement of players than anything else.
a bit like westwood being touted for england.
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Why do people like a player so much who does fuck all on the pitch for YOUR club.
I'm started to think some supporters actually like being shit.
I couldn't give a hoot whether he's scored vital goals against the blose, you get 3 points for winning any league game, where is this pea-brain then?
Many fans loved Collymore and even thought he deserved a 3rd season after half a dozen good games in the previous 2.
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Guzan has never been a top keeper, not ever. Top 8 keeper? I think that says more about certain fans' judgement of players than anything else.
Where has anyone said that he's a top keeper?
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Guzan has never been a top keeper, not ever. Top 8 keeper? I think that says more about certain fans' judgement of players than anything else.
a bit like westwood being touted for england.
Spot on.
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Guzan has been a decent keeper, but continually being pasted over the last three seasons has certainly ground him down. He is now a liability.
Agbonlahor reminds me of Norman Whiteside (without the benefit of having had a reasonably stellar career): overweight, slow, misfiring and disinterested. Best simply retire him and be done with it.
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Guzan has never been a top keeper, not ever. Top 8 keeper? I think that says more about certain fans' judgement of players than anything else.
Better than Given though at the time or does he fit more for your demand of top level premier league player on premier league wages....bleeding this club dry.
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Guzan has never been a top keeper, not ever. Top 8 keeper? I think that says more about certain fans' judgement of players than anything else.
Better than Given though at the time or does he fit more for your demand of top level premier league player on premier league wages....bleeding this club dry.
You see I don't think Guzan was ever better than Given, just cheaper, that's why he became our first choice.
And the only person bleeding this club dry is Randy Lerner.
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For the level that Gabby reached and his age, he should be doing far better now than he is. That is why he is coming in for criticism.
He has allowed his career to fall apart.
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Guzan has never been a top keeper, not ever. Top 8 keeper? I think that says more about certain fans' judgement of players than anything else.
Better than Given though at the time or does he fit more for your demand of top level premier league player on premier league wages....bleeding this club dry.
You see I don't think Guzan was ever better than Given, just cheaper, that's why he became our first choice.
And the only person bleeding this club dry is Randy Lerner.
Bleeding it dry of hope, optimism and belief yes. Money, no.
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Guzan has never been a top keeper, not ever. Top 8 keeper? I think that says more about certain fans' judgement of players than anything else.
Better than Given though at the time or does he fit more for your demand of top level premier league player on premier league wages....bleeding this club dry.
You see I don't think Guzan was ever better than Given, just cheaper, that's why he became our first choice.
And the only person bleeding this club dry is Randy Lerner.
And once again goes sailing past the point to get a pointless pious shot of at Lerner.
Guzan wasn't resigned as Given's replacement. He was resigned as Given's back up.
Now how many clubs have top notch keepers as back up? Bare in mind we're talking about the Given of Lambert's first summer where he'd just been a big factor in us scraping enough points under McLeish.
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Gabby's just a fat fuck - ask half the female population of the West Midlands
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For the level that Gabby reached and his age, he should be doing far better now than he is. That is why he is coming in for criticism.
He has allowed his career to fall apart.
Indeed with the right attitude he could have been an England squad regular and scored at least 100 goals for us.
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For the level that Gabby reached and his age, he should be doing far better now than he is. That is why he is coming in for criticism.
He has allowed his career to fall apart.
Indeed with the right attitude he could have been an England squad regular and scored at least 100 goals for us.
Yep he's let himself down.
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Guzan has never been a top keeper, not ever. Top 8 keeper? I think that says more about certain fans' judgement of players than anything else.
Better than Given though at the time or does he fit more for your demand of top level premier league player on premier league wages....bleeding this club dry.
You see I don't think Guzan was ever better than Given, just cheaper, that's why he became our first choice.
And the only person bleeding this club dry is Randy Lerner.
And once again goes sailing past the point to get a pointless pious shot of at Lerner.
Guzan wasn't resigned as Given's replacement. He was resigned as Given's back up.
Now how many clubs have top notch keepers as back up? Bare in mind we're talking about the Given of Lambert's first summer where he'd just been a big factor in us scraping enough points under McLeish.
I'm not particularly prone to defending Lerner, but the "because he's cheaper" line doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
How come Given spent so many matches on the bench while Guzan started if it's all about the wages?
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Gabby had one gift speed and that has gone, he has no ball control (never had) has little vision and is an idle fuck. I don't think he has done too bad for himself and he will be rolling in it for the next four years thanks to the idiots running Villa.
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Regarding Guzan. Is it just a coincidence that his form has gone seriously downhill since Reggie Kray was bought in as goalkeeping coach?
I've never thought he was Schmeichel or anything but he was vital during those two years of trying to survive under Lambert.
I agree he's terrible now by comparison but the crock of shite he has in front of him week in week out cannot give him one aiota of confidence either.
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Regarding Guzan. Is it just a coincidence that his form has gone seriously downhill since Reggie Kray was bought in as goalkeeping coach?
I've never thought he was Schmeichel or anything but he was vital during those two years of trying to survive under Lambert.
I agree he's terrible now by comparison but the crock of shite he has in front of him week in week out cannot give him one aiota of confidence either.
It's a 2 way street though. His form at the end of last season was awful too, when the back 4 weren't quite so Keystone Cops.
Anyone who watched it culminate at Man City would be worried about how much shit he was going to drop you in.
I hadn't thought about the effect of the change (introduction of) coaches after Timmy Me turned up. I can't remember how he was earlier in last season, I've expunged the actual performances from memory.
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I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.
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I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.
No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.
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I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.
No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.
In your opinion, of course.
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I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.
No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.
In your opinion, of course.
Exactly, just like your opinion above. The man was never good enough for our first choice, not from day one and some of us said it at the time as well. Just my opinion, mind.
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I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.
No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.
In your opinion, of course.
Exactly, just like your opinion above. The man was never good enough for our first choice, not from day one and some of us said it at the time as well. Just my opinion, mind.
Just looked back on this thread and can't be bothered to go through previous pages, has it been suggested that Agbonlahor should play in goal now? Might be a good shout, doesn't have to move much and is quite a large obstruction to any goal bound shots.
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I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.
No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.
In your opinion, of course.
Exactly, just like your opinion above. The man was never good enough for our first choice, not from day one and some of us said it at the time as well. Just my opinion, mind.
Just looked back on this thread and can't be bothered to go through previous pages, has it been suggested that Agbonlahor should play in goal now? Might be a good shout, doesn't have to move much and is quite a large obstruction to any goal bound shots.
Never mind putting him in goal I'd make Gabby chairman. Couldn't do a worse job than the buffoon in charge now.
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I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.
No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.
How many times to get it into your skull?
He wasn't re-signed as Given's replacement, but as his understudy. Otherwise deliberately having Given dropped repeated bollocks at the start of the season to get Guzan in as his cheap option would have been a plan on a Machiavellian level beyond anything previously seen from someone who for the most part appears to consult Baldrick for his cunning plans.
Oh, and who was on the bench for the next 18 months?
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I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.
No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.
In your opinion, of course.
Exactly, just like your opinion above. The man was never good enough for our first choice, not from day one and some of us said it at the time as well. Just my opinion, mind.
Just looked back on this thread and can't be bothered to go through previous pages, has it been suggested that Agbonlahor should play in goal now? Might be a good shout, doesn't have to move much and is quite a large obstruction to any goal bound shots.
Never mind putting him in goal I'd make Gabby chairman. Couldn't do a worse job than the buffoon in charge now.
Your obsession with Lerner is starting to get embarrassing. I'm surprised you haven't brought him up in the book thread over in Off Topic.
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Guzan was well dodgy when we resigned him but for some reason unknown he had 18-24 months of good form, exceptional at claiming crosses and corners, I remember looking at a list of which keeper had claimed the most one season and Guzan was head and shoulders above every other keeper in numbers. The past 2 and a half years he has been shocking though, he should have been replaced at the start of last season, nevermind us still having him in the net now.
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I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.
No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.
In your opinion, of course.
Exactly, just like your opinion above. The man was never good enough for our first choice, not from day one and some of us said it at the time as well. Just my opinion, mind.
Just looked back on this thread and can't be bothered to go through previous pages, has it been suggested that Agbonlahor should play in goal now? Might be a good shout, doesn't have to move much and is quite a large obstruction to any goal bound shots.
Never mind putting him in goal I'd make Gabby chairman. Couldn't do a worse job than the buffoon in charge now.
Your obsession with Lerner is starting to get embarrassing. I'm surprised you haven't brought him up in the book thread over in Off Topic.
He's waiting for the release of
"Randy Lerner - King of ******
Why he's worse than Stalin, Saddam and Assad"
Author. S. Heroes.
Personally I'm betting he'll give it 12 out of 10.
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Guzan was well dodgy when we resigned him but for some reason unknown he had 18-24 months of good form, exceptional at claiming crosses and corners, I remember looking at a list of which keeper had claimed the most one season and Guzan was head and shoulders above every other keeper in numbers. The past 2 and a half years he has been shocking though, he should have been replaced at the start of last season, nevermind us still having him in the net now.
yeah i think guzan was doing alright until lambo went to germany , came back and told guzan to pass goal kicks to defenders and roll the ball out to them at all times and pass to defenders when the ball comes to you , if not that some goalkeeeping coach has been telling him to do it
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The biggest question mark over Guzan in his first incarnation was his ability with crosses. That semi final second leg against Blackburn was a case in point - hang the ball just under the crossbar and watch him flap. What's strange is that I don't worry about that with Guzan now - shots on goal, yes; crosses, no.
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The biggest question mark over Guzan in his first incarnation was his ability with crosses. That semi final second leg against Blackburn was a case in point - hang the ball just under the crossbar and watch him flap. What's strange is that I don't worry about that with Guzan now - shots on goal, yes; crosses, no.
Basically he's not up to Premier League standard, just like most of our squad.
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I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.
No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.
In your opinion, of course.
Exactly, just like your opinion above. The man was never good enough for our first choice, not from day one and some of us said it at the time as well. Just my opinion, mind.
Just looked back on this thread and can't be bothered to go through previous pages, has it been suggested that Agbonlahor should play in goal now? Might be a good shout, doesn't have to move much and is quite a large obstruction to any goal bound shots.
Never mind putting him in goal I'd make Gabby chairman. Couldn't do a worse job than the buffoon in charge now.
House!
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Guzan was well dodgy when we resigned him but for some reason unknown he had 18-24 months of good form, exceptional at claiming crosses and corners, I remember looking at a list of which keeper had claimed the most one season and Guzan was head and shoulders above every other keeper in numbers. The past 2 and a half years he has been shocking though, he should have been replaced at the start of last season, nevermind us still having him in the net now.
I'd agree with most of that other than him being dodgy when we resigned him. He'd played 4 or 5 games whilst Given was injured and looked pretty decent, including one game at Stoke which we'd all been dreading, particularly after the Blackburn semi, and he completely bossed the penalty area not just coming for crosses but catching instead of punching to relieve pressure.
The one thing that's always been weak has been his kicking.
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The biggest question mark over Guzan in his first incarnation was his ability with crosses. That semi final second leg against Blackburn was a case in point - hang the ball just under the crossbar and watch him flap. What's strange is that I don't worry about that with Guzan now - shots on goal, yes; crosses, no.
Basically he's not up to Premier League standard, just like most of our squad.
That wasn't the original point or question.
Still not like you to dodge a question that you don't want to answer.
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Anyway. I think we should let Agbonlahor go.
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Can we not just leave him in Sunderland? By the time he finds his way home his contract will have run out.
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Anyway. I think we should let Agbonlahor go.
let him go , keep him or want him to go ,,, he will stay
just like zigic did at blues on 50 or 60 grand a week for 2 or3 years after they were relegated
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On reflection, keep him. It's a double bluff if he's reading. Or he's paying somebody to read it to him, if that's the case don't tell him it's a double bluff.
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Can we not just leave him in Sunderland? By the time he finds his way home his contract will have run out.
It's not that easy. You've heard of the 'bad penny', haven't you.
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Can we not just leave him in Sunderland? By the time he finds his way home his contract will have run out.
It's not that easy. You've heard of the 'bad penny', haven't you.
Yes it is his transfer value.
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I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.
No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.
Shay Given was overrated, even at his pomp at Newcastle. I could see why in his one full season playing for us even if he did make some crucial saves towards the end of the season.
Brad coming in for him early on in the following season was completely justified, remember that Fellani header that went through his fingers. And Brad had a fantastic 12-13 so I don't really see the point of this debate.
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I think it may just be best to agree that it's been quite a while since we had a goalkeeper you would actively choose to play for Aston Villa.
As for thread topic, sounds like he's going nowhere. Literally and figuratively.
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He was probably our player of the season in 12/13 (even ahead of Benteke), but can't keep clinging onto that now. He's got worse since then and is now easily the worst keeper in the league.
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I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.
No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.
Shay Given was overrated, even at his pomp at Newcastle. I could see why in his one full season playing for us even if he did make some crucial saves towards the end of the season.
Brad coming in for him early on in the following season was completely justified, remember that Fellani header that went through his fingers. And Brad had a fantastic 12-13 so I don't really see the point of this debate.
Given was a terrific keeper in his pomp and Guzan at any stage was never fit to lace his boots, and the latter was overrated from the very first day he joined. I said it from more or less day one that Guzan was not up to standard and I stand by it. All keepers make good saves but it's that extra one percent that separates the best from the bog standard and sadly Guzan doesn't possess it. As back up keeper he was fine, but first choice, never. We've been signing second best for over 5 years now and it's finally caught up with us. Let's hope for a miracle.
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I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.
No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.
Shay Given was overrated, even at his pomp at Newcastle. I could see why in his one full season playing for us even if he did make some crucial saves towards the end of the season.
Brad coming in for him early on in the following season was completely justified, remember that Fellani header that went through his fingers. And Brad had a fantastic 12-13 so I don't really see the point of this debate.
Given was a terrific keeper in his pomp and Guzan at any stage was never fit to lace his boots, and the latter was overrated from the very first day he joined. I said it from more or less day one that Guzan was not up to standard and I stand by it.
Overated from the very first day he joined? That's just over the top rubbish, mainly because he wasn't that well known. So he was fine as back up to Given in case of injury or loss of form, but not good enough to be No1? Ah, clear as mud.
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He was probably our player of the season in 12/13 (even ahead of Benteke), but can't keep clinging onto that now. He's got worse since then and is now easily the worst keeper in the league.
I think Brad was excellent in his first season under Lambert, very good in the second. His form slipped throughout last season and he's been utterly dreadful this season. He's completely done. I'm afraid it gets to a point with some players where the decline is there for all to see. When it's this long term it's almost impossible you'll ever see them get back to their best. Guzan has to go. Gabby has to go. The likes of Bacuna and Westwood also have to go. We've wasted far too much precious time, and points on these fuck trumpets.
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He was probably our player of the season in 12/13 (even ahead of Benteke), but can't keep clinging onto that now. He's got worse since then and is now easily the worst keeper in the league.
I think Brad was excellent in his first season under Lambert, very good in the second. His form slipped throughout last season and he's been utterly dreadful this season. He's completely done. I'm afraid it gets to a point with some players where the decline is there for all to see. When it's this long term it's almost impossible you'll ever see them get back to their best. Guzan has to go. Gabby has to go. The likes of Bacuna and Westwood also have to go. We've wasted far too much precious time, and points on these fuck trumpets.
He was great in those first two seasons and deserved to keep Given out. He couldn't complain too much if he lost his place now though.
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He was probably our player of the season in 12/13 (even ahead of Benteke), but can't keep clinging onto that now. He's got worse since then and is now easily the worst keeper in the league.
I think Brad was excellent in his first season under Lambert, very good in the second. His form slipped throughout last season and he's been utterly dreadful this season. He's completely done. I'm afraid it gets to a point with some players where the decline is there for all to see. When it's this long term it's almost impossible you'll ever see them get back to their best. Guzan has to go. Gabby has to go. The likes of Bacuna and Westwood also have to go. We've wasted far too much precious time, and points on these fuck trumpets.
He was great in those first two seasons and deserved to keep Given out. He couldn't complain too much if he lost his place now though.
Certainly not. I think he's in an irreversible decline now. Pack him off back to the MLS, for his own sake as much as ours.
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He was probably our player of the season in 12/13 (even ahead of Benteke), but can't keep clinging onto that now. He's got worse since then and is now easily the worst keeper in the league.
I think Brad was excellent in his first season under Lambert, very good in the second. His form slipped throughout last season and he's been utterly dreadful this season. He's completely done. I'm afraid it gets to a point with some players where the decline is there for all to see. When it's this long term it's almost impossible you'll ever see them get back to their best. Guzan has to go. Gabby has to go. The likes of Bacuna and Westwood also have to go. We've wasted far too much precious time, and points on these fuck trumpets.
This for me -him and Benteke kept us up the 2 seasons under Lambert.
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I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.
No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.
Shay Given was overrated, even at his pomp at Newcastle. I could see why in his one full season playing for us even if he did make some crucial saves towards the end of the season.
Brad coming in for him early on in the following season was completely justified, remember that Fellani header that went through his fingers. And Brad had a fantastic 12-13 so I don't really see the point of this debate.
Given was a terrific keeper in his pomp and Guzan at any stage was never fit to lace his boots, and the latter was overrated from the very first day he joined. I said it from more or less day one that Guzan was not up to standard and I stand by it.
Overated from the very first day he joined? That's just over the top rubbish, mainly because he wasn't that well known. So he was fine as back up to Given in case of injury or loss of form, but not good enough to be No1? Ah, clear as mud.
Yeah that about right. I'm not surprised you don't get it because let's face it you've been telling people to calm down now for 5 years while the club has been spiralling into a humiliating decline.
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I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.
No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.
Shay Given was overrated, even at his pomp at Newcastle. I could see why in his one full season playing for us even if he did make some crucial saves towards the end of the season.
Brad coming in for him early on in the following season was completely justified, remember that Fellani header that went through his fingers. And Brad had a fantastic 12-13 so I don't really see the point of this debate.
Given was a terrific keeper in his pomp and Guzan at any stage was never fit to lace his boots, and the latter was overrated from the very first day he joined. I said it from more or less day one that Guzan was not up to standard and I stand by it.
Overated from the very first day he joined? That's just over the top rubbish, mainly because he wasn't that well known. So he was fine as back up to Given in case of injury or loss of form, but not good enough to be No1? Ah, clear as mud.
Yeah that about right. I'm not surprised you don't get it because let's face it you've been telling people to calm down now for 5 years while the club has been spiralling into a humiliating decline.
Just because I don't feel the need to come on here every day and whinge doesn't mean I don't think the club is in a mess.
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All Lerner's fault. All of it. Ad infinitum.
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I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.
No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.
Shay Given was overrated, even at his pomp at Newcastle. I could see why in his one full season playing for us even if he did make some crucial saves towards the end of the season.
Brad coming in for him early on in the following season was completely justified, remember that Fellani header that went through his fingers. And Brad had a fantastic 12-13 so I don't really see the point of this debate.
Given was a terrific keeper in his pomp and Guzan at any stage was never fit to lace his boots, and the latter was overrated from the very first day he joined. I said it from more or less day one that Guzan was not up to standard and I stand by it.
Overated from the very first day he joined? That's just over the top rubbish, mainly because he wasn't that well known. So he was fine as back up to Given in case of injury or loss of form, but not good enough to be No1? Ah, clear as mud.
Yeah that about right. I'm not surprised you don't get it because let's face it you've been telling people to calm down now for 5 years while the club has been spiralling into a humiliating decline.
Just because I don't feel the need to come on here every day and whinge doesn't mean I don't think the club is in a mess.
You had your head buried in the sand for years and ripped into anyone who claimed the club was in decline. The signs were there but you couldn't see it. I hate seeing the club turned into a joke and I don't get any pleasure from moaning all the time.
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I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.
No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.
Shay Given was overrated, even at his pomp at Newcastle. I could see why in his one full season playing for us even if he did make some crucial saves towards the end of the season.
Brad coming in for him early on in the following season was completely justified, remember that Fellani header that went through his fingers. And Brad had a fantastic 12-13 so I don't really see the point of this debate.
Given was a terrific keeper in his pomp and Guzan at any stage was never fit to lace his boots, and the latter was overrated from the very first day he joined. I said it from more or less day one that Guzan was not up to standard and I stand by it.
Overated from the very first day he joined? That's just over the top rubbish, mainly because he wasn't that well known. So he was fine as back up to Given in case of injury or loss of form, but not good enough to be No1? Ah, clear as mud.
Yeah that about right. I'm not surprised you don't get it because let's face it you've been telling people to calm down now for 5 years while the club has been spiralling into a humiliating decline.
Just because I don't feel the need to come on here every day and whinge doesn't mean I don't think the club is in a mess.
You had your head buried in the sand for years and ripped into anyone who claimed the club was in decline. The signs were there but you couldn't see it. I hate seeing the club turned into a joke and I don't get any pleasure from moaning all the time.
My head hasn't been buried in the sand at all. You just want people to join you in the moaning and you get arsey when people don't. So so sorry if i'm not posting what you want me to, but tough shit, i'll criticise when I like, not when you want me to.
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And the exact same to you in return. Good luck with trying to convince everyone it ain't that bad after all!
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Under TSM1, Given was out injured for a spell, and Guzan was superb, did nothing wrong, utterly unrecognisable from the man between the sticks against Blackburn. But as soon as Given was fit, he, undeservedly imo, went straight back in. I don't recall much dissent over his re-signing, but I'm pretty sure he induced much hand-wringing over this once great club letting his contract run out at the time.
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I think we do need a change in goal now. That doesn't mean Guzan hasn't been a decent keeper for us or that he became our No 1 because he was cheap.
No, it does you know. He was overrated, no question.
Shay Given was overrated, even at his pomp at Newcastle. I could see why in his one full season playing for us even if he did make some crucial saves towards the end of the season.
Brad coming in for him early on in the following season was completely justified, remember that Fellani header that went through his fingers. And Brad had a fantastic 12-13 so I don't really see the point of this debate.
Given was a terrific keeper in his pomp and Guzan at any stage was never fit to lace his boots, and the latter was overrated from the very first day he joined. I said it from more or less day one that Guzan was not up to standard and I stand by it.
Overated from the very first day he joined? That's just over the top rubbish, mainly because he wasn't that well known. So he was fine as back up to Given in case of injury or loss of form, but not good enough to be No1? Ah, clear as mud.
Yeah that about right. I'm not surprised you don't get it because let's face it you've been telling people to calm down now for 5 years while the club has been spiralling into a humiliating decline.
Just because I don't feel the need to come on here every day and whinge doesn't mean I don't think the club is in a mess.
You had your head buried in the sand for years and ripped into anyone who claimed the club was in decline. The signs were there but you couldn't see it. I hate seeing the club turned into a joke and I don't get any pleasure from moaning all the time.
My head hasn't been buried in the sand at all. You just want people to join you in the moaning and you get arsey when people don't. So so sorry if i'm not posting what you want me to, but tough shit, i'll criticise when I like, not when you want me to.
Saunders/Clampy-guys, do you ever stop with the squabbling? It's non stop at times.
I often agree with things that both of you say, you both often speak sense. But countless times I've witnessed tit for tatt bickering. It's boring. Can we have a 2016 truce?
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He was probably our player of the season in 12/13 (even ahead of Benteke), but can't keep clinging onto that now. He's got worse since then and is now easily the worst keeper in the league.
I think Brad was excellent in his first season under Lambert, very good in the second. His form slipped throughout last season and he's been utterly dreadful this season. He's completely done. I'm afraid it gets to a point with some players where the decline is there for all to see. When it's this long term it's almost impossible you'll ever see them get back to their best. Guzan has to go. Gabby has to go. The likes of Bacuna and Westwood also have to go. We've wasted far too much precious time, and points on these fuck trumpets.
Some players cope with set backs whilst others are ruined by them. I think with Brad he's made one too many clangers now and plays with fear and it's affected every part of his game. I don't think he'll get back to the keeper he was 2/3 seasons ago.
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Given was a terrific keeper in his pomp and Guzan at any stage was never fit to lace his boots, and the latter was overrated from the very first day he joined. I said it from more or less day one that Guzan was not up to standard and I stand by it.
Guzan's form has completely gone to pot now, but the above is an outstanding pile of nonsense.
Top work.
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I think my point is Axl, yes the club is in a mess and everyone knows it, you'd have to be a fool not to think it. I don't come on here and moan about it too much though because I don't see the point but that doesn't mean I think everything's hunky dory. The league table looks horrific and Lerner has made a mess of things but he's not the only one. If I come across as positive that's just my nature.
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Given was a terrific keeper in his pomp and Guzan at any stage was never fit to lace his boots, and the latter was overrated from the very first day he joined. I said it from more or less day one that Guzan was not up to standard and I stand by it.
Guzan's form has completely gone to pot now, but the above is an outstanding pile of nonsense.
Top work.
Well that told me!
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I think my point is Axl, yes the club is in a mess and everyone knows it, you'd have to be a fool not to think it. I don't come on here and moan about it too much though because I don't see the point but that doesn't mean I think everything's hunky dory. The league table looks horrific and Lerner has made a mess of things but he's not the only one. If I come across as positive that's just my nature.
But then when anyone else points out how shit the club is you turn up and suggest it ain't that bad after all. Take the Ilori thread just for a start. Someone dares suggest it was a pathetic signing and you get all defensive.
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I think my point is Axl, yes the club is in a mess and everyone knows it, you'd have to be a fool not to think it. I don't come on here and moan about it too much though because I don't see the point but that doesn't mean I think everything's hunky dory. The league table looks horrific and Lerner has made a mess of things but he's not the only one. If I come across as positive that's just my nature.
But then when anyone else points out how shit the club is you turn up and suggest it ain't that bad after all. Take the Ilori thread just for a start. Someone dares suggest it was a pathetic signing and you get all defensive.
That's because I don't think it was a pathetic signing, it was just a loan that didn't work out. It's called an opinion, it's what message boards are for. Sorry If I didn't agree with you.
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I think my point is Axl, yes the club is in a mess and everyone knows it, you'd have to be a fool not to think it. I don't come on here and moan about it too much though because I don't see the point but that doesn't mean I think everything's hunky dory. The league table looks horrific and Lerner has made a mess of things but he's not the only one. If I come across as positive that's just my nature.
But then when anyone else points out how shit the club is you turn up and suggest it ain't that bad after all. Take the Ilori thread just for a start. Someone dares suggest it was a pathetic signing and you get all defensive.
That's because I don't think it was a pathetic signing, it just just a loan that didn't work out. It's called an opinion, it's what message boards are for. Sorry If I didn't agree with you.
Agreed. Please just remember that it's all about opinions and it's what message boards are all about next time you pounce on one of my posts where you think I've gone over the top regarding the state of the club and our humiliating decline.
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Anyway, shall we leave it at that? Axl is right, it must be boring for some people.
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Anyway, shall we leave it at that? Axl is right, it must be boring for some people.
No problem.
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Guzan had that one very good season when his confidence was sky high. That season has turned out to be the exception rather than the rule.
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I was wondering if that Agbonlahor chap we have in the squad was really worth persisting with. Anybody know a place I can discuss that?
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I was wondering if that Agbonlahor chap we have in the squad was really worth persisting with. Anybody know a place I can discuss that?
try the Guzan thread
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I was wondering if that Agbonlahor chap we have in the squad was really worth persisting with. Anybody know a place I can discuss that?
I have lost interest in Agbonlahor as he has lost interest in performing.
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I was wondering if that Agbonlahor chap we have in the squad was really worth persisting with. Anybody know a place I can discuss that?
try the Guzan thread
Thought so.
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He is on £2million a year with 2 years left?
He ain't going anywhere.
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I guess...bump the Guzan thread?
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He is on £2million a year with 2 years left?
He ain't going anywhere.
that means he will earn 5 million pounds in wages over the next 2.5 years
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He is on £2million a year with 2 years left?
He ain't going anywhere.
that means he will earn 5 million pounds in wages over the next 2.5 years
EARN. That's a bit strong.
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He is on £2million a year with 2 years left?
He ain't going anywhere.
that means he will earn 5 million pounds in wages over the next 2.5 years
EARN. That's a bit strong.
very true , change it to accept for doing nothing
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I was wondering if that Agbonlahor chap we have in the squad was really worth persisting with. Anybody know a place I can discuss that?
try the Guzan thread
Nah people are talking about why Barry didn't take the penalty in that thread!
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He is on £2million a year with 2 years left?
He ain't going anywhere.
that means he will earn 5 million pounds in wages over the next 2.5 years
Replace Earn with TAKE, easy
EARN. That's a bit strong.
very true , change it to accept for doing nothing
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He is on £2million a year with 2 years left?
He ain't going anywhere.
some people are unable to grasp this and actually think that someone will pay us to take him
he will sit on his fat arse for the remainder of his contract and then work on his fashion line with that wanker nzogbia
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He is on £2million a year with 2 years left?
He ain't going anywhere.
some people are unable to grasp this and actually think that someone will pay us to take him
he will sit on his fat arse for the remainder of his contract and then work on his fashion line with that wanker nzogbia
If I had a crystal ball id love to know,in 10 years, what he is doing and where is he doing it at.
I bet its fk all to do with us
replace bet with hope
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He is on £2million a year with 2 years left?
He ain't going anywhere.
some people are unable to grasp this and actually think that someone will pay us to take him
he will sit on his fat arse for the remainder of his contract and then work on his fashion line with that wanker nzogbia
If I had a crystal ball id love to know,in 10 years, what he is doing and where is he doing it at.
I bet its fk all to do with us
replace bet with hope
replace hope with really really hope
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So. We're left with Gabby as our only hope up front now. My patience with him reached as low a point as you can get this season, but now for tomorrows game I want something from Gabby. I want him to come good again. I want him to salvage his Villa career. I want him to win us over again. I want him to turn up and try his hardest and slog his fucking guts out. I want him to get back to his best, which is to say, a Premier League standard striker. Something that we don't actually have at the club any more. Not even close.
So Gabby...you're not gonna read this. You're probably not going to care about the sentiment from all the fans, but please, PLEASE deliver! Even if you fuck off in May, go out on a high. Go out with some good grace and perhaps a slither of popularity.
Now to you guys. I know Gabby's let us down persistently. In truth I've found myself disliking him this season. Previous years it was merely a frustration but it's become worse. But for tomorrows game, if possible, can anyone going to the game just give Gabby as much backing as possible. Can we all pray to McGrath and will Gabby to deliver a decent performance, and then to keep that up for the remaining games. I know he's fat. I know you can see the belly rolls through his shirt, but fuck it. We need wins. Anything less than 8 wins and we're done. Gabby has saved us in the past. He's delivered in important games. He's now got the 15 most important games we've had in decades. Just for one game, lets wipe the slate clean and give him a chance.
COME ON GABBY!! I want to love the fucker again.
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So Gabby here's a chance at redemption then. Score 25 goals by the end of the season and you can be a hero again.
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Gabby has had weeks to knuckle down, get match fit and prove a point to Garde and anyone else who doubts him.
Unfortunately, you only have to look at him to see that hasn't happened.
I remember on the VP Tour that the Guide was saying about the fact there was no alcohol in the players bar - this was because the players are on a strict 8% body fat.
I'm no expert, but Gabby would appear to have more than 8%!
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He looked like he had got some very well filled handles at the weekend.
He is our only hope though
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This gave me a chuckle - Agbonlahor used to have pace - that dog who goes round on the advertising hoarding has more pace.
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This gave me a chuckle - Agbonlahor used to have pace - that dog who goes round on the advertising hoarding has more pace.
sign that dog up
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He actually did ok last night. I know it's last resorts and everything. He has a chance to come through yet again. We will now see if he truly has emerged from his exile to offer something/anything up front.
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Anybody that gets thrown up front all alone for 70 minutes isn't going to have the greatest of games. Based on the last two games I'd have him in the side before Gestede or Kozak. At least he has a purpose. He's still coming back from his back injury and hopefully will improve. The least we can expect is between now and the end of the season he gives his all.
It will be interesting to see who Garde plays alongside him on Saturday. Three injured strikers, one suspended and the other on loan at Bristol City.
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He actually did ok last night. I know it's last resorts and everything. He has a chance to come through yet again. We will now see if he truly has emerged from his exile to offer something/anything up front.
Are we still on the advertising hoardings dog?
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The mickey taking and general criticism that Gabby gets on here is I believe very much a internet born thing
On Saturday he got the biggest cheers and applause from the fans than anyone else
I'm not standing up for him, I've never rated him very highly even in the good old days,
but he is loved at Villa Park if not on the message sites, that I do know
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Anybody that gets thrown up front all alone for 70 minutes isn't going to have the greatest of games. Based on the last two games I'd have him in the side before Gestede or Kozak. At least he has a purpose. He's still coming back from his back injury and hopefully will improve. The least we can expect is between now and the end of the season he gives his all.
It will be interesting to see who Garde plays alongside him on Saturday. Three injured strikers, one suspended and the other on loan at Bristol City.
bloody hell how long have we been saying that for!
gabby was finished at this level two seasons ago
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The mickey taking and general criticism that Gabby gets on here is I believe very much a internet born thing
On Saturday he got the biggest cheers and applause from the fans than anyone else
I'm not standing up for him, I've never rated him very highly even in the good old days,
but he is loved at Villa Park if not on the message sites, that I do know
I thought exactly the same. I had a little chuckle to myself in the stands thinking about this site. I give him pelters on here but would never do it at a game. On the same note I wasn't exactly buzzing to see him come on.
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The mickey taking and general criticism that Gabby gets on here is I believe very much a internet born thing
On Saturday he got the biggest cheers and applause from the fans than anyone else
I'm not standing up for him, I've never rated him very highly even in the good old days,
but he is loved at Villa Park if not on the message sites, that I do know
I thought exactly the same. I had a little chuckle to myself in the stands thinking about this site. I give him pelters on here but would never do it at a game. On the same note I wasn't exactly buzzing to see him come on.
first player last night for months to actually get the ball off the floor while crossing from the wing , and it should have resulted in a penalty
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He actually did ok last night. I know it's last resorts and everything. He has a chance to come through yet again. We will now see if he truly has emerged from his exile to offer something/anything up front.
And if you watch the game back he won most things in the air last night.
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I was in L2 Saturday and I doubt the response around me was much different to on here when Gabby came on. Plenty of sarcastic "It's ok Gabby will save us" type comments followed by laughter. Difference is being at the match it's followed by singing. That's not a 'better fan' comment btw. Just that if I was watching on TV I make a sarcastic comment but I won't then start singing in my lounge. In the ground i'll make the same comment but then sing. Gabby and the team don't hear my comment wherever I am, but they do hear the singing in the ground. Hopefully that makes sense!
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He's all we've got now.i hope to McGrath he can strike up a productive partnership with whoever he pays up front with and they can dig us out of this shit
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We'll give him a pass for the West Ham game given it was always going to be a thankless job after 17 minutes.
The Norwich game is Gabby's chance to do something and perhaps save us. All the injuries have taken a toll and his coasting has also been reflected in his performances and his body shape. He's not had to push himself. He does bare minimum and gets a new deal. But now he finally must know he's playing for his future. He's got to deliver. Lets face it, say what you want about Gabby, but when he's actually on it he's our best player. He's unplayable. Does he still have that in his locker? We shall see. He's still quick, albeit not as blisteringly fast as before. But when he gets a rocket lit up his ass he's still able to frighten defenders.
He's our only hope. If he lets us down he can just fuck right off in the summer. If he stays fit and starts performing and hitting one of his almost long forgotten Gabby purple patches, then he can stay next season, because providing he could stay fit and motivated he would bang them in, in the champ.
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the only banging in he's done in the last few years has all been off the pitch
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8% body fat? Michelin Man is nowhere near that.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gsW_1OaBGGE/VqzsRDKwMdI/AAAAAAAA-Z4/UnNg-WKy6KE/w530-h354-p-rw/ae51676e-6c30-4fec-9901-7f2ef8ed1772)
Or is he wearing a bumbag under his top?
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We'll give him a pass for the West Ham game given it was always going to be a thankless job after 17 minutes.
The Norwich game is Gabby's chance to do something and perhaps save us. All the injuries have taken a toll and his coasting has also been reflected in his performances and his body shape. He's not had to push himself. He does bare minimum and gets a new deal. But now he finally must know he's playing for his future. He's got to deliver. Lets face it, say what you want about Gabby, but when he's actually on it he's our best player. He's unplayable. Does he still have that in his locker? We shall see. He's still quick, albeit not as blisteringly fast as before. But when he gets a rocket lit up his ass he's still able to frighten defenders.
He's our only hope. If he lets us down he can just fuck right off in the summer. If he stays fit and starts performing and hitting one of his almost long forgotten Gabby purple patches, then he can stay next season, because providing he could stay fit and motivated he would bang them in, in the champ.
When thinking about the past we've shared with our Gabs, this passage brings a tear to me' eye. Gabby rides out for the last time. (lol)
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Tom he won't fuck off anywhere as no mug punter is gonna pay his 50k a week wages.
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only the Aston Villa mug punter would do that!
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Tom he won't fuck off anywhere as no mug punter is gonna pay his 50k a week wages.
Well I would hope that he spends a lot of time in the summer getting leaner again and actually goes some way to earning his wages. I do however think there's possibly a few managers outmoded enough to perhaps try and get Gabby in on the cheap (as far as fee goes). Tiny Penis may go for it, or Fat Sam (if Sunderland survive...which they won't).
I'm going to cling onto that all too faint hope that Gabby hits form again.
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Christ! Gabby's overhang is as big as mine!
Not really, mines bigger. Sadly.
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Christ! Gabby's overhang is as big as mine!
Not really, mines bigger. Sadly.
I do feel bad for mocking Grant Holt so much. In comparison to Gabby, Holt was about as fat as David Ginola was.
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Gabby isn't fat, no joke. He has spent too much time in the gym bulking up.
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Gabby is fat, no joke. He has spent too much time in Greggs bulking up.
I agree.
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Gabby is fat, no joke. He has spent too much time in Greggs bulking up.
I agree.
We could do with him on the treadmill with a sausage roll dangling in front of him.
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Gabby is fat, no joke. He has spent too much time in Greggs bulking up.
I agree.
Nah, Gabby has lost some weight.
He's had a 40 pound mole removed from his ass!
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Gabby is fat, no joke. He has spent too much time in Greggs bulking up.
I agree.
Nah, Gabby has lost some weight.
He's had a 40 pound mole removed from his ass!
It was reported Richard Gere had a similar problem
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Gabby isn't fat, no joke. He has spent too much time in the gym bulking up.
So, is that a 24-pack under his top in the photo above?
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Take a look at his instagram account, there's plenty of pics of him since the season started with his top off (blurgh). He's not fat.
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Take a look at his instagram account, there's plenty of pics of him since the season started with his top off (blurgh). He's not fat.
He's just big boned.
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Take a look at his instagram account, there's plenty of pics of him since the season started with his top off (blurgh). He's not fat.
You're quite right. He's too heavy, that's the problem.
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If he just took his wallet out of his pocket...
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Isn't the Gabby is fat story just a lazy joke at this stage?
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Looking at a footballers instagram account only re-inforces to me what an absolute bunch of bellends the vast majority are. Gabby looks a bit of a bellend to be fair. That said if he bangs a couple of goals in tomorrow he can wear what he likes and pose how he likes.
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Take a look at his instagram account, there's plenty of pics of him since the season started with his top off (blurgh). He's not fat.
Nobody knows how recent those pics are because every other one says some bullshit like "Lil flashback"
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Take a look at his instagram account, there's plenty of pics of him since the season started with his top off (blurgh). He's not fat.
Nobody knows how recent those pics are because every other one says some bullshit like "Lil flashback"
Someone should message his account and get him to pose shirtless with a copy of the days newspaper.
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Help me out here. Is that an A-cup or a B-cup he's got?
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Help me out here. Is that an A-cup or a B-cup he's got?
Looks like a DD to me.
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Take a look at his instagram account, there's plenty of pics of him since the season started with his top off (blurgh). He's not fat.
Nobody knows how recent those pics are because every other one says some bullshit like "Lil flashback"
Apart from the one's taken during fitness sessions about 2/3 months ago.
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OK, so he's fitter than Jamie Lee Curtis. Now, all he needs to do is get us three points a week for the next ten games.
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'Fun' fact. In his last 80 games he's been booked more often than he's scored.
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More interested in being a body builder than a footballer despite sound advice.
Rampant narcissism. Almost always ends up with breast enhancement.
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Take a look at his instagram account, there's plenty of pics of him since the season started with his top off (blurgh). He's not fat.
Nobody knows how recent those pics are because every other one says some bullshit like "Lil flashback"
Someone should message his account and get him to pose shirtless with a copy of the days newspaper.
Then you'd have to first explain what a newspaper is. He blocked me long time ago so it won't be me, shame.
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The only reason I might keep him is because he could be a stronger player in the Championship. Then again he's lost a lot of pace is injury prone and would be my last choice striker right now, and chances are we will bring in a striker in the summer (right? ::)) so I'd say cash in.
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The only reason I might keep him is because he could be a stronger player in the Championship. Then again he's lost a lot of pace is injury prone and would be my last choice striker right now, and chances are we will bring in a striker in the summer (right? ::)) so I'd say cash in.
what will we cash in?
even if a club is stupid enough to offer a fee there is no way they are going to match 40/50k a week in wages. plus if he doesnt want to go he doesnt have to so he will sit on his fat arse until his contract expires
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Cash in LOL.
Maybe 3 years ago.
If Hull get promoted maybe Brucey will take a punt - always seemed to do well v hos teams
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Cash in LOL.
Maybe 3 years ago.
If Hull get promoted maybe Brucey will take a punt - always seemed to do well v hos teams
Well it was a figure of speech people! I think some Championship clubs or maybe lower PL clubs might take a punt. I don't mind him sitting on the bench just given the choice rather we'd move him on.
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Outstanding today. The Gabby we have fonder memories of.
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Welcome back, Gabby. We've always loved you, you know.
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I like the fact he didn't celebrate. I've been a massive critic of him but I'm pleased he didn't give his fingers to the ears celebration. He's got a lot of making up to do.
Keep scoring, keep being angry.
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Keep giving him service.
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Keep giving him service.
Exactly!
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I like the fact he didn't celebrate. I've been a massive critic of him but I'm pleased he didn't give his fingers to the ears celebration. He's got a lot of making up to do.
Keep scoring, keep being angry.
Him and Ayew can be our two grumpy frontmen, like those old fuckers on the balcony in the Muppets.
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Did well today but if we're to have a chance he's probably going to have to score about another 10 between now and the end of the season.
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Excellent today. Provided an outlet, which we haven't had previously.
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We look more balanced with him playing like that today.
He still provides an out all as opposed to having forwards that are static.
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Keep him angry.
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Gabby is a good foil for another striker and not really a main striker, particularly as he doesn't score enough goals. But, if he works as hard as he did today for the rest of the season, then he will be a hero again. To be absolutely fair, it's about bloody time!!
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Even half fit he is a better option than Kozak and Gestede as he can still move for the ball and cause defenders problems.
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Anybody that gets thrown up front all alone for 70 minutes isn't going to have the greatest of games. Based on the last two games I'd have him in the side before Gestede or Kozak. At least he has a purpose. He's still coming back from his back injury and hopefully will improve. The least we can expect is between now and the end of the season he gives his all.
It will be interesting to see who Garde plays alongside him on Saturday. Three injured strikers, one suspended and the other on loan at Bristol City.
bloody hell how long have we been saying that for!
gabby was finished at this level two seasons ago
***cough***
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He scored from a moment of madness from their keeper. Are we going to gloss over all the other chances he fluffed. His confidence will be high now so lets see how he does in the next five, remember Gabby has one half decent game then disappears into oblivion for months......
You ain't fooling me Mr Aston Villa.
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He scored from a moment of madness from their keeper. Are we going to gloss over all the other chances he fluffed. His confidence will be high now so lets see how he does in the next five, remember Gabby has one half decent game then disappears into oblivion for months......
You ain't fooling me Mr Aston Villa.
Is it really that difficult for you to compliment him on a day he has actually played well and scored in a win?
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He scored from a moment of madness from their keeper. Are we going to gloss over all the other chances he fluffed. His confidence will be high now so lets see how he does in the next five, remember Gabby has one half decent game then disappears into oblivion for months......
You ain't fooling me Mr Aston Villa.
Is it really that difficult for you to compliment him on a day he has actually played well and scored in a win?
I said his confidence will be high, that's about as much as I can give right now.
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Worked hard, and for a 10 minute or so spell in the second half it was the Gabby of old. Their defence were shitting themselves during that spell.
I've said it before, today is the reason he gets so much stick. When he puts in a performance more often than not we get a result. We just don't see it often enough.
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Fuck me he is fat. But did really well today and battled very very hard in the week too.
I thought he also showed the potential Veretout has for playing a pass when someone if moving ahead.
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He scored from a moment of madness from their keeper. Are we going to gloss over all the other chances he fluffed. His confidence will be high now so lets see how he does in the next five, remember Gabby has one half decent game then disappears into oblivion for months......
You ain't fooling me Mr Aston Villa.
Is it really that difficult for you to compliment him on a day he has actually played well and scored in a win?
I said his confidence will be high, that's about as much as I can give right now.
And the goal of course,meets not forget that. Took it well, also.
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He scored from a moment of madness from their keeper. Are we going to gloss over all the other chances he fluffed. His confidence will be high now so lets see how he does in the next five, remember Gabby has one half decent game then disappears into oblivion for months......
You ain't fooling me Mr Aston Villa.
Is it really that difficult for you to compliment him on a day he has actually played well and scored in a win?
To be fair, it is only what is expected of someone who is paid obscene amounts of money.
329 days of big money. And two goals.
Yes, well done Gabby! Get in! I want to see more every week, from now until May.
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Oops!
Little slip of bad language in an interview with Pete Colley!! :D
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today earned him his place - him and Ayew up front is potentially exciting if both play to their ability.
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What did he say, CT?
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Something along the lines of "papers like to chat shit"
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https://twitter.com/thevillazone/status/696026654372659202
He didn't seem that bothered either.
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For all his many many faults he's still the best option to play as lone forward in our system, he did well enough at Leicester in that role.
If we keep the diamond then him and Ayew probably makes sense as a two as Ayew can drop short and link with midfield and Gabby can play on the last shoulder.
Funny how football works sometimes though. I was convinced he'd played his last game for us and I think Remi was aswell.
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Like him or loathe him, the Villa players love him
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When on his game - like he was in the 2nd half - he is a Premier League quality striker who causes real problems for teams. Sadly we don't see kind of performance from him anywhere near enough.
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Chat shit get Bong -lahor'd.
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Anybody that gets thrown up front all alone for 70 minutes isn't going to have the greatest of games. Based on the last two games I'd have him in the side before Gestede or Kozak. At least he has a purpose. He's still coming back from his back injury and hopefully will improve. The least we can expect is between now and the end of the season he gives his all.
It will be interesting to see who Garde plays alongside him on Saturday. Three injured strikers, one suspended and the other on loan at Bristol City.
bloody hell how long have we been saying that for!
gabby was finished at this level two seasons ago
***cough***
One swallow and all that
He did play well today but its not expecting too much is it for him to actually put in a shift.
If he scores 4 in the next 5 I will extend my praise and change my view that he is finished.
Someone said he didnt acknowledge the Holte after he scored. Is that true? I was too busy jumping around to notice
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He scored from a moment of madness from their keeper. Are we going to gloss over all the other chances he fluffed. His confidence will be high now so lets see how he does in the next five, remember Gabby has one half decent game then disappears into oblivion for months......
You ain't fooling me Mr Aston Villa.
Well, he missed one chance in the first half, putting a half-chance wide to the right hand side of the goal from a cross from Richards.
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Just having somebody with a little bit of pace up front means that the opposition cannot press right up, so opens up the field a bit for us. Would any other player have scored that second goal today?
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Just having somebody with a little bit of pace up front means that the opposition cannot press right up, so opens up the field a bit for us. Would any other player have scored that second goal today?
I think the Goalkeeper made it easier the ball went under his dive.
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On his Instagram
ga11officialThat was for all the haters hope I have ruined ur Saturday 👅😋🤓 #theyknowhotheyare
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Hopefully he'll put a shift in for the rest of the season now. He's all we got and on his day we know he can cause problems.
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well done gabby, keep it up
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On his Instagram
ga11officialThat was for all the haters hope I have ruined ur Saturday 👅😋🤓 #theyknowhotheyare
Instead of - this is for the fans, I owed them one, and some more.
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On his Instagram
ga11officialThat was for all the haters hope I have ruined ur Saturday 👅😋🤓 #theyknowhotheyare
Well he's helped ruin enough of our Saturdays the last few years.
/baddumtish
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On his Instagram
ga11officialThat was for all the haters hope I have ruined ur Saturday 👅😋🤓 #theyknowhotheyare
Well he's helped ruin enough of our Saturdays the last few years.
/baddumtish
only because he hasn't played to his undoubted potential ,
who really knows what goes on behind closed doors
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whatever is his motivation I hope he keeps it up. In the end I don't care if it is for the haters or for the fans if he keeps doing the business. Today was a good start, we need many more. He looked determined today which is a whole lot better than than the disinterested Gabby we have come to know over the past couple of years.
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If Gabby continues to play like that for the rest of the season then he can happily tweet that. As it's after just one game of playing well it's pretty immature.
Well done and keep it up... then I may change my mind.
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If Gabby continues to play like that for the rest of the season then he can happily tweet that. As it's after just one game of playing well it's pretty immature.
Well done and keep it up... then I may change my mind.
yes well with he has had a lot of stick of villa fans the last few years , and yes a lot of it has been deserved , after scoring he could easily have ran to the front of the holtte with his hand behind his ear , so i think it was a mature celebration to his goal , the chat shit comment in his interview after said a thousand words , contract and big wages or not , gabby is going nowhere , he wont be hounded out like albrighton , but i think another one of our own super jack will
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On his Instagram
ga11officialThat was for all the haters hope I have ruined ur Saturday 👅😋🤓 #theyknowhotheyare
One ended up being enough so what the hell is he talking about, another reason why I don't like this tool.
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Flabby Flabby Flabby Agbonlahor, hes fat and scores hes fat and scores.
Thats all we want Gabby.
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I said to my brother last week that I hope Remi has been using the time Gabby has been out to poke and prod him into some kind of form.
Angry Gabby is the way forward, and may well deliver us from evil.
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Flabby Flabby Flabby Agbonlahor, hes fat and scores hes fat and scores.
Thats all we want Gabby.
Can we put the notion that Gabby is fat to bed please? He's too muscular yes... but not fat. It might take a DG shirt off moment to make a point.
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On his Instagram
ga11officialThat was for all the haters hope I have ruined ur Saturday 👅😋🤓 #theyknowhotheyare
One ended up being enough so what the hell is he talking about, another reason why I don't like this tool.
Fair play to him I mean he must have earned at least half of his wages yesterday.
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I said to my brother last week that I hope Remi has been using the time Gabby has been out to poke and prod him into some kind of form.
Angry Gabby is the way forward, and may well deliver us from evil.
Good point. I thought he worked hard yesterday and it was good to have some movement up front rather than a target man, particularly with Ayew unavailable.
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He really is a bit of a shit head isn't he?
Still, if he keeps banging in the goals I don't care, but we've all been here before and on almost every bastard occasion that dopey pillock has let us down.
Sorry Gabby but haters gonna hate. He does seem blissfully ignorant of how fucking shite he's been for us for 5 years.
The sooner some footballers learn that you can act as much of a bellend as you like if you deliver on the pitch, the better. Some fail to remember the on the pitch part though.
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Well said Tom
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On his Instagram
ga11officialThat was for all the haters hope I have ruined ur Saturday 👅😋🤓 #theyknowhotheyare
One ended up being enough so what the hell is he talking about, another reason why I don't like this tool.
I can only presume he must get a lot of personal abuse on that Instagram so if he's having a sly dig back, I can't blame him although it's best to say nothing really.
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Need to pair him with Ayew when he's back.
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I think it shows how detached from reality modern footballers are, to think that he's earn the right to ram it down the throats of any supporters who have the cheek to criticise him over the past 4 years or so. Yes Gabby, in our current predicament that was the best you could tweet was it? Fuck me, stick another 7 or 8 goals away to help keep us up and at the end of the season you can have your little diva strop then, as you will have proven the 'haters' wrong.
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He's probably still peed off with Remi saying he could leave in the January window.
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So he scored one goal and looked more of a centre forward than Kozak and Gestede. But he is all we have and that sums up Aston Villa with Lerner's stranglehold on the clubs finances. I think the word is mediocre. The defence is starting to look solid and reliable though.
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I think it shows how detached from reality modern footballers are, to think that he's earn the right to ram it down the throats of any supporters who have the cheek to criticise him over the past 4 years or so. Yes Gabby, in our current predicament that was the best you could tweet was it? Fuck me, stick another 7 or 8 goals away to help keep us up and at the end of the season you can have your little diva strop then, as you will have proven the 'haters' wrong.
absolutely
he took his goal well, if he bangs in half a dozen before the end of the season then fair play to him, its all up to him and how he chooses to apply himself when he is up against a decent back four
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Exactly. What a ridiculous thing to do. One goal in forever simply lends credence to the Infinite Monkey Theorem. Score in a few consecutive games and hit double figures between now and May, and even if it isn't enough to keep us up and he might - might - just about earned a right to reply to the justified criticism he's received over the last few seasons.
On a broader point, in an era when top footballers don't seem to be able to wipe their own arses without advice from their agents and wider entourage, why on earth do they not think twice before posting on social media?
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Exactly. What a ridiculous thing to do. One goal in forever simply lends credence to the Infinite Monkey Theorem. Score in a few consecutive games and hit double figures between now and May, and even if it isn't enough to keep us up and he might - might - just about earned a right to reply to the justified criticism he's received over the last few sesons.
On a broader point, in an era when top footballers don't seem to be able to wipe their own arses without advice from the agents and wider entourage, why on earth do they not think twice before posting on social media?
He is only human and has responded in kind to the keyboard warriors who regularly abuse him. If it was just criticism then fair enough but as ever these days there are people who take it too far. He should just ignore it but that clearly is not his way.
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I said to my brother last week that I hope Remi has been using the time Gabby has been out to poke and prod him into some kind of form.
Angry Gabby is the way forward, and may well deliver us from evil.
Good point. I thought he worked hard yesterday and it was good to have some movement up front rather than a target man, particularly with Ayew unavailable.
He moved more yesterday than he had in the three years prior combined. Keep it up, and he'll get few complaints from me.
Should still be doing more, though. We had a break on second half, think it was Gana running through, possibly Veretout in possession on half way, and Gabby did no more than make exactly the same run as Gana, parallel and about five yards away. No jinking, no looking to run across or in behind the retreating defenders. A promising opportunity came to nowt. He's a vastly experienced PL forward, it'd be nice to see a bit more nous from him.
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The "theyknowwhotheyare' bit may refer more to the ex pros in the media than the fans, he has been singled out a few times
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Bit angry is he? Good. I hope it inspires him to shift his arse and put in some half decent performances.
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At roughly £2.5m per goal (going on the past year's strike rate) I think we can unanimously declare that Gabby is worth his weight in gold.
I look forward to a rapid depreciation in both total mass and price per gram.
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The "theyknowwhotheyare' bit may refer more to the ex pros in the media than the fans, he has been singled out a few times
It doesn't really matter who it was aimed at, it's just further proof that the lad is as thick as a whale omelette. One goal in a year isn't going to shut anybody up, so he'd be better carrying on working hard and trying to take his chances than mouthing off on social media.
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Another season like the last two and he'll be doing if "for the Hatter's " next year! ☺ Good on him though-he did well yesterday
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On his Instagram
ga11officialThat was for all the haters hope I have ruined ur Saturday 👅😋🤓 #theyknowhotheyare
What a prick. One goal this season. ONE!
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In the pre match thread I did predict he'd score and see it as silencing his critics, he really is that thick. I also said we'd lose.
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I personally hope Gabby scores in each remaining match and ends up tweeting a book.
I wonder what the book could be called?
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I personally hope Gabby scores in each remaining match and ends up tweeting a book.
I wonder what the book could be called?
Lionel Messi: My Part in His Downfall.
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https://twitter.com/thevillazone/status/696026654372659202
He didn't seem that bothered either.
I like the reaction from off-screen Lescott.
The Gabby of a couple of years ago would not have scored that goal. The keeper would never have left his line knowing full well an express Gabby would have won the chase with ease. The sight of the waddling 2016 version filled him with false hope.
Having said that, it was a good take, kicking across the ball with his wrong foot from 25 yards or so out, at, errrr, full pelt. A difficult thing to do regardless of where the goalie was.
It's good to see that he stil has something to offer.
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I hope he does think we're all ungrateful twats.
It would appear we have found a motivational tool.
So Gabby, if you're reading, we need a few more you fat bastard.
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I personally hope Gabby scores in each remaining match and ends up tweeting a book.
I wonder what the book could be called?
Sons and Lovers.
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I personally hope Gabby scores in each remaining match and ends up tweeting a book.
I wonder what the book could be called?
Lionel Messi: My Part in His Downfall.
"Pep ?" "Gabby Who?"
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I hope one of those ex pros is Gary Neville after the piss take after the Spurs game about how many touches he had
Think it was 8 was the joke which is one more than Barca fucked into the back of your Valencia net.
How's your tactic board and defensive lines now
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I personally hope Gabby scores in each remaining match and ends up tweeting a book.
I wonder what the book could be called?
Sons and Lovers.
The Great Gabsby
Sorry
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I hope one of those ex pros is Gary Neville after the piss take after the Spurs game about how many touches he had
Think it was 8 was the joke which is one more than Barca fucked into the back of your Valencia net.
How's your tactic board and defensive lines now
Gabby had more touches than Neville has picked up points. Gabby has also scored more goals than Neville's had league wins. Worth reminding the chinny twat whilst he sniggers with his mates in front of a blackboard talking the talk.
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Gabby 8 touches Neville 5 pts. Gabby 1 goal Neville 0 wins #top trumps
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On his Instagram
ga11officialThat was for all the haters hope I have ruined ur Saturday 👅😋🤓 #theyknowhotheyare
One ended up being enough so what the hell is he talking about, another reason why I don't like this tool.
He can start been an arse back when he has reached double figures
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It was refreshing to see Gabby apparently well motivated yesterday. He worked hard and capped the performance with a goal as well.
Perhaps Remi has got inside his head and made him realise that he can be an asset to the club. Without reading the posts on this thread since yesterday it was interesting that he did not celebrate his goal.
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I personally hope Gabby scores in each remaining match and ends up tweeting a book.
I wonder what the book could be called?
Sons and Lovers.
Not so fast and furious
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It was refreshing to see Gabby apparently well motivated yesterday. He worked hard and capped the performance with a goal as well.
Perhaps Remi has got inside his head and made him realise that he can be an asset to the club. Without reading the posts on this thread since yesterday it was interesting that he did not celebrate his goal.
Which is a shame because he should be lapping up the celebrations and enjoying himself, he seems to think that people are against him when everyone with anything to do with Villa wants to see him bang in a hatful and be a problem for the opposition again.
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I personally hope Gabby scores in each remaining match and ends up tweeting a book.
I wonder what the book could be called?
Sons and Lovers.
Not so fast and furious
how many children/girlfriends have i got again?
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We've been here before. Could be months till his next goal.
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Or as Gabby tends to do, score in bunches and then disappear for a few months.
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If he makes the runs that put the oppo defence on the back foot for our midfield to capitalise on then that's good enough for me
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Thing that impressed me most for the goal was that Gabby actually shaped his run to stay onside.
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Delighted we won and glad he scored but it's his first goal in a year and it was an absolute howler from their keeper.
He needs to keep quiet, get his head down and back in up against 'The Mighty Reds YNWA'. Then he can start sending tweets like this out.
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Thing that impressed me most for the goal was that Gabby actually shaped his run to stay onside.
I actually said out loud, "no, you're offside...but now you're not, play it now, play it now, GO!!". He can do it, ffs just do it (a lot) more often.
EDIT: although it's questionable how much faith I had in him from that point then to bury it.
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I don't understand the hate for him. If you can honestly say you think he doesn't want to do well and for his club, then you are a better judge of character than me. I have always been a fan of him. We are moving past the days of one club players and I'm proud he was ours. If him tweeting every week is down to him scoring or setting up goals, that's fine with me.
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Gotta keep whatever as things stand...
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I don't understand the hate for him. If you can honestly say you think he doesn't want to do well and for his club, then you are a better judge of character than me. I have always been a fan of him. We are moving past the days of one club players and I'm proud he was ours. If him tweeting every week is down to him scoring or setting up goals, that's fine with me.
I don't think it's hate. It's exasperation with someone who has contributed next to nothing to our survival over the last few years, despite being "one of ours" and for the most part carrying himself like he couldn't care less.
Someone earlier said he plays better when he's the "main man." I'm wondering if he's either been sulking as first Bent then Benteke have been the main man, or if not being no 1 has really knocked his confidence.
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If him tweeting every week is down to him scoring or setting up goals, that's fine with me.
I think that would be fine with everybody. It would just be nice if it were happening more than once every year.
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Too many false dawns with him. It still amazes me that he is our top scorer since football was invented in 1992.
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Nice finish, mind.
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Too many false dawns with him. It still amazes me that he is our top scorer since football was invented in 1992.
Purely on time served. We've not had a truly prolific goalscorer in all that time that's hung around for more than 3 or 4 seasons.
Yorke I would guess is no 2 on the list, where most of his time with us was him developing and not always playing regularly. 1 more season and he'd have been our of sight.
Bent was the next chance, but was limited to 2 half seasons.
If we'd had 3 injury free seasons from Benteke, he'd have been somewhere close. I'd guess he's got the best strike rate since '92.
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Whilst heading south on the M5 near Bristol this afternoon I was overtaken by a Range Rover with registration number V1 GAB. I wondered if there was any connection to our Pilsbury?
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I don't understand the hate for him. If you can honestly say you think he doesn't want to do well and for his club, then you are a better judge of character than me. I have always been a fan of him. We are moving past the days of one club players and I'm proud he was ours. If him tweeting every week is down to him scoring or setting up goals, that's fine with me.
I quite agree.He's just a scapegoat for the usual internet abuse. Injuries have certainly been an issue with him not to mention the poor teams he has had to play in over the past five years. It was interesting that Garde commented that yesterdays goal came from the type of pass he needs . Keep him fit and play to his strengths.
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He doesn't get much abuse, certainly not on here. He does however get criticised for being crap for most of the last 5 years. That was his first goal for 11 months, his second goal at VP since November 2014. He's on target for his 3rd straight season of picking up more more yellow cards than goals. If that kind of 'form' isn't worthy of criticism I don't what is.
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It will be interesting if with a player like Veretout in the side, who can quite clearly pass a ball, Gabby keeps getting chances in games. Liverpool are genuinely awful at the back at times, so next week he should be up for it. If thinking the world hates him gets him going, then let him think it. Goes on a 5-6 game scoring run and we win 3-4 of them, good times. I won't hold my breath though.
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Gabby has far from been a scapegoat. In fact I think he has been fortunate not to get more stick. Him being fat isn't a myth either, he clearly is (for a pro footballer).
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Oh he is carrying about a stone and a half. He has got love handles sticking out of his shirt at the back and a clear tyre on his middle.
I reckon he hits the ice cream every time he thinks of Duverne!
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If he scores a shed load of goals between now and the end of the season and by some
Miracle keeps us up he can eat Grant Holt whole and call us all bunch of c***s for all I care.
Let your football do the talking.
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No one wants to see a Villa player fail and Gabby has had a hell of a lot of leeway given to him over the last 3 seasons, any slagging has come from his perceived lack of giving a toss and for a professional player to only have 8 touches in a full game is awful.
Keep him angry, because of the total shit state we are in, he maybe our only option, but he stills owes the supporters a hell of a lot to make up for the last 3 years.
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He could barely hide his delight at scoring on Saturday. Maybe because it's been so long it was just a case of forgetting that you can celebrate scoring a goal at the Holte End
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If he scores a shed load of goals between now and the end of the season and by some
Miracle keeps us up he can eat Grant Holt whole and call us all bunch of c***s for all I care.
Let your football do the talking.
Gabby misses the whole of next season digesting Grant Holt. Like one of those awful snake eats croc pictures that always troll the bottom of articles read on rubbish websites.
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It's entirely possible that Gabby has eaten Crespo. That he in fact hasn't left on loan, but is being digested slowly. For Crespo it was much like being seduced and then devoured by the Sarlacc.
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I personally hope Gabby scores in each remaining match and ends up tweeting a book.
I wonder what the book could be called?
Sons and Lovers.
Not so fast and furious
Hahaha! Ace.
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I personally hope Gabby scores in each remaining match and ends up tweeting a book.
I wonder what the book could be called?
Sons and Lovers.
Not so fast and furious
Hahaha! Ace.
Twelve Angry Chins.
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All he has to do to have some sort of positive impact on a game is to work hard - that's how it's been since the start, and is still the case now even though he's not that quick anymore and carrying some weight. As long as he keeps it up, he's probably a better option than Kozak, mostly because I reckon having a bit of pace about him makes it more likely that he'll induce a fuck-up or two by a defender each game - that and set-pieces probably represent our best chances at scoring goals at this stage.
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Passitsideways, the least of Gabby's problems is keeping it up, if rumour is to be believed.
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I personally hope Gabby scores in each remaining match and ends up tweeting a book.
I wonder what the book could be called?
Sons and Lovers.
Not so fast and furious
Hahaha! Ace.
Twelve Angry Chins.
Life of Pi(e)
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The Waistland.
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Eats, Shoots and Peeves.
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The Codfather
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End of the day he's been earning £50k a week for 3 years and done fuck all, any critism that comes his way is deserved, he needs to do his fucking job and then we'll see if he deserves the plaudits, 1 goal in 11 months is terrible end of
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Supersize me!
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End of the day he's been earning £50k a week for 3 years and done fuck all, any critism that comes his way is deserved, he needs to do his fucking job and then we'll see if he deserves the plaudits, 1 goal in 11 months is terrible end of
Nailed it.
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I think our best, if not only hope, of staying up is for him to go on the kind of run he did towards the end of Lambert's first season.
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I think our best, if not only hope, of staying up is for him to go on the kind of run he did towards the end of Lambert's first season.
Nailed it
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Gabby needs to realise that most of the comments on the photos of famous people on instagram are made by kids or twats. There isnt some massive hate campaign against him and even the resounding majority for letting him go on this thread will be based on poor performances over a sustained period of time, nothing personal. Im sure if he is honest with himself he has never quite fulfilled his potential. He now has one last opportunity now to get his head down, bang in some goals and win back the fans that once adored him. After that, who knows.
I think that if he slopes off at the end of this season to Derby or Blackburn I will look back on his time here as good overall with some amazing highlights but....it could have been so much more. Much like I do with our Lee Hendrie
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I think our best, if not only hope, of staying up is for him to go on the kind of run he did towards the end of Lambert's first season.
Nailed it
Six goals in our last nine matches that season. That would certainly be welcome right about now.
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I personally hope Gabby scores in each remaining match and ends up tweeting a book.
I wonder what the book could be called?
Sons and Lovers.
Not so fast and furious
Hahaha! Ace.
Twelve Angry Chins.
Life of Pi(e)
The Count of Monte Crispo
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I personally hope Gabby scores in each remaining match and ends up tweeting a book.
I wonder what the book could be called?
Sons and Lovers.
Not so fast and furious
Hahaha! Ace.
Twelve Angry Chins.
Life of Pi(e)
The Count of Monte Crispo
Run Fat Boy Run
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I personally hope Gabby scores in each remaining match and ends up tweeting a book.
I wonder what the book could be called?
Sons and Lovers.
Not so fast and furious
Hahaha! Ace.
Twelve Angry Chins.
Life of Pi(e)
The Count of Monte Crispo
Run Fat Boy Run
Loveratatouille
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I am his biggest critic but even I saw he made a difference, I would still let him go at the end of the season because he will revert to type sooner than later. I have been thinking how good Albrighton has looked at Leicester and how we gave him away for nothing, seems with decent players around him he does the job and unlike Gabby he will run forever.
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Gabby needs to realise that most of the comments on the photos of famous people on instagram are made by kids or twats. There isnt some massive hate campaign against him and even the resounding majority for letting him go on this thread will be based on poor performances over a sustained period of time, nothing personal.
It is noticeable that his name still gets a pretty decent cheer from our fans when the teams are read out at Villa Park.
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Gabby needs to realise that most of the comments on the photos of famous people on instagram are made by kids or twats. There isnt some massive hate campaign against him and even the resounding majority for letting him go on this thread will be based on poor performances over a sustained period of time, nothing personal.
It is noticeable that his name still gets a pretty decent cheer from our fans when the teams are read out at Villa Park.
I think people really want him to do well tbh, I do. He's just frustrating
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I personally hope Gabby scores in each remaining match and ends up tweeting a book.
I wonder what the book could be called?
Sons and Lovers.
Not so fast and furious
Hahaha! Ace.
Twelve Angry Chins.
Life of Pi(e)
The Count of Monte Crispo
Run Fat Boy Run
Loveratatouille
Goodbye Mr (Pie &) Chips!
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End of the day he's been earning £50k a week for 3 years and done fuck all, any critism that comes his way is deserved, he needs to do his fucking job and then we'll see if he deserves the plaudits, 1 goal in 11 months is terrible end of
Nailed it.
I think our best, if not only hope, of staying up is for him to go on the kind of run he did towards the end of Lambert's first season.
Nailed it
That's the nails, we just need a couple of pieces of wood now.
Gabby will be our Saviour !
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My view on this has changed with our worsening position. I was in the 'let go' camp but if, as is likely the dreaded drop happens then I believe he could scare a few championship defences. As villa through and through I would like to think he would be desperate to play a part in getting us back up.
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My view on this has changed with our worsening position. I was in the 'let go' camp but if, as is likely the dreaded drop happens then I believe he could scare a few championship defences. As villa through and through I would like to think he would be desperate to play a part in getting us back up.
Problem is he's on a rumoured 55,000 per week so unless he's happy to take a 50% pay cut, I don't think it's realistic that we could keep him in the Championship. I'd rather sell him anyway, putting on that much weight when your main attribute was pace shows his lazy attitude and then stupidity for not shifting it.
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My view on this has changed with our worsening position. I was in the 'let go' camp but if, as is likely the dreaded drop happens then I believe he could scare a few championship defences. As villa through and through I would like to think he would be desperate to play a part in getting us back up.
Problem is he's on a rumoured 55,000 per week so unless he's happy to take a 50% pay cut, I don't think it's realistic that we could keep him in the Championship. I'd rather sell him anyway, putting on that much weight when your main attribute was pace shows his lazy attitude and then stupidity for not shifting it.
don't know if there is a clause that his contract that his wages have to reduced if we go down but would anyone take a 50% pay cut when they can carry on picking up 100%
Its alright saying sell him , but wouldn't he refuse any move as he wont get paid as much as he would by staying at Villa
Blues had the same problem last time they went down , stuck with zigic for 2 or 3 years on about 50 or 70 grand a week
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My view on this has changed with our worsening position. I was in the 'let go' camp but if, as is likely the dreaded drop happens then I believe he could scare a few championship defences. As villa through and through I would like to think he would be desperate to play a part in getting us back up.
Problem is he's on a rumoured 55,000 per week so unless he's happy to take a 50% pay cut, I don't think it's realistic that we could keep him in the Championship. I'd rather sell him anyway, putting on that much weight when your main attribute was pace shows his lazy attitude and then stupidity for not shifting it.
He took a pay cut when signing his current contract and I'm pretty sure it would have a relegation clause as well.
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Has he tweeted an opinion about today's debacle yet?
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Was that for all the haterz today?
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I heard on the radio he went off because he "wasn't feeling well", is that correct?
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My view on this has changed with our worsening position. I was in the 'let go' camp but if, as is likely the dreaded drop happens then I believe he could scare a few championship defences. As villa through and through I would like to think he would be desperate to play a part in getting us back up.
Problem is he's on a rumoured 55,000 per week so unless he's happy to take a 50% pay cut, I don't think it's realistic that we could keep him in the Championship. I'd rather sell him anyway, putting on that much weight when your main attribute was pace shows his lazy attitude and then stupidity for not shifting it.
He took a pay cut when signing his current contract and I'm pretty sure it would have a relegation clause as well.
I hope you're right about the latter. He has been taking the piss since said contract - the odd game aside.
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It's the first time in years he hasn't got a free ticket into the starting line up. No wonder he looks peed off.
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I heard on the radio he went off because he "wasn't feeling well", is that correct?
I heard that too. Hope he's ok, the poor little lamb.
He has a heart the size of a pea.
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Garde on Agbonlahor coming off: "I don't know the extent exactly. I have been told he is suffering with vertigo. He didn't feel well. He had a headache."
Sounds like Garde isn't exactly sympathetic to the lazy, over-eating/drinking, overpaid leech!
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Well we have fattened him up(in more than one way) and he is ready for market. Sell him now whilst the price is right.
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He was dizzy cause even Toure in his wheelchair was running rings around him :o
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Gabby has for a long time summed us up as a club. Today was no different. The fact that he, Westwood and Bacuna all got long contracts last year just makes you want to cry.
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Add Lambert and Hutton. The Summer prior we'd signed Cissokho, Richardson, Cole and Senderos and there you had 8 big contracts handed out to absolute monkeys.
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came off today cos he just didn't fancy it, plain and simple
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Big contracts? Richardson, Cole and Senderos were all 2 years deals.
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Gabby has for a long time summed us up as a club. Today was no different. The fact that he, Westwood and Bacuna all got long contracts last year just makes you want to cry.
Sad but true. If you set out to deliberately fuck over a football club, you couldn't do any more than some of the actions we've taken recently.
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Add Lambert and Hutton. The Summer prior we'd signed Cissokho, Richardson, Cole and Senderos and there you had 8 big contracts handed out to absolute monkeys.
Alan Hutton - yes not the most capable of footballers, but definitely 110% effort. Have 11 of his kind in the team right now.
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came off today cos he just didn't fancy it, plain and simple
This, we all know it.
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Add Lambert and Hutton. The Summer prior we'd signed Cissokho, Richardson, Cole and Senderos and there you had 8 big contracts handed out to absolute monkeys.
Alan Hutton - yes not the most capable of footballers, but definitely 110% effort. Have 11 of his kind in the team right now.
He's shit. A club with any ambition would have thanked him for being professional and moved him on, not given him another contact after years of being shunned. Another example of the film flam way the club has been run.
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came off today cos he just didn't fancy it, plain and simple
Brain of a pigeon, heart of the cowardly lion on our badge and the girth of a body building narcissist on droids.
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Add Lambert and Hutton. The Summer prior we'd signed Cissokho, Richardson, Cole and Senderos and there you had 8 big contracts handed out to absolute monkeys.
Alan Hutton - yes not the most capable of footballers, but definitely 110% effort. Have 11 of his kind in the team right now.
Watching one Hutton is bad enough but 11, are you actually being serious. Effort? If you mean looking like he could get a red card every game, then yes you are bang on.
Hutton should have never been signed by the club and definitely shouldn't have been given a new contract.
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Considering we had him off playing frisbee for a year with the youth team, Hutton has handled himself professionally but that shouldn't disguise the fact he's not a very good footballer and nowhere near Premier League standard.
Add him to the list I suppose.
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Gabby had vertigo, it is because he is not used to standing up straight for that amount of time.
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Gabby had vertigo, it is because he is not used to standing up straight for that amount of time.
Expect an incoming tweet this week from him lying on his back somewhere sunny saying haterz hate.
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AJ with Lescott, Richards and 3 scantily clad ladies of the night, plus Jack asleep under the sun bed with a laughing gas bottle attached to his head.
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AJ with Lescott, Richards and 3 scantily clad ladies of the night, plus Jack asleep under the sun bed with a laughing gas bottle attached to his head.
Ace! And Gormless Guzan flobbing at the assistant referee as he runs past just for shits and giggles.
We're bound to have a talented cartoonist in our ranks. Go for it.
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I wouldn't waste a nib on those knobs, fuck the fuckers.