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Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #705 on: April 23, 2016, 02:56:36 PM »
Top drawer from Rudy.
I like Gestede. I really feel for him too because the managers this season haven't done him any favours. It's fair to say that Rudy is a very limited player. He obviously wasn't the replacement for Benteke. I feel he was more likely bought in as a squad player and we missed out on our main targets last summer (which clearly included Adebeyor). But we've not really set up in a way to get the best out of him. We've played without width. We've played without a wideman. Grealish can play wide. Traore seems to be a chalk booted winger but those two have barely featured. Rudy gets no service. He wins most of his aerial duels too but never has anyone near him because of the dip shit tactics we've employed. The full-backs are really the only ones who look to provide width and crosses but of course we're not blessed with fullbacks who can beat a man and cross, with the exception of Amavi who has missed most of the season.

We've often asked too much of Gestede and on top of that not actually done enough to play to his abilities. He's had a tough old slog of it but one thing he's always done is to try. I always feel that Rudy gives his best. He's looked fitter as the season has worn on. Early season he was clearly getting up to swing after an injury he was recovering from at Blackburn.

Gestede is one player I actually want us to keep for next season. For one, he appears to have the right attitude, and for another, if we get even a half decent manager, they will know how to utilize Gestede to his full potential and perhaps we'll sign 1-2 wingers to supply Gestede and any other forward we may sign. But the way we've set up and the way we've played the vast majority of this season, we might as well not have played Rudy.
Agree with every word ST

Indeed.

I think the full backs even more than the wingers. You don't even need to beat a man, just get it in early into roughly the right area, and give the big fella a chance to attack it. We really have missed Amavi in that regard.

Mike Pejic (another we lost to injury) was great at crossing the ball and he very rarely had to beat a player to get a cross in.  However, Gestede needs the ball to be coming in from the side of the penalty area so that he can attack it head on.  I think we should keep him but not as the main striker and we certainly need to play with a wide attacking player that can cross the ball.

I think he has taken stick more for the player he is not, rather for who he is, if that makes sense.  That is down to the Club for not buying a better player.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #706 on: April 23, 2016, 03:56:20 PM »
Top drawer from Rudy.
I like Gestede. I really feel for him too because the managers this season haven't done him any favours. It's fair to say that Rudy is a very limited player. He obviously wasn't the replacement for Benteke. I feel he was more likely bought in as a squad player and we missed out on our main targets last summer (which clearly included Adebeyor). But we've not really set up in a way to get the best out of him. We've played without width. We've played without a wideman. Grealish can play wide. Traore seems to be a chalk booted winger but those two have barely featured. Rudy gets no service. He wins most of his aerial duels too but never has anyone near him because of the dip shit tactics we've employed. The full-backs are really the only ones who look to provide width and crosses but of course we're not blessed with fullbacks who can beat a man and cross, with the exception of Amavi who has missed most of the season.

We've often asked too much of Gestede and on top of that not actually done enough to play to his abilities. He's had a tough old slog of it but one thing he's always done is to try. I always feel that Rudy gives his best. He's looked fitter as the season has worn on. Early season he was clearly getting up to swing after an injury he was recovering from at Blackburn.

Gestede is one player I actually want us to keep for next season. For one, he appears to have the right attitude, and for another, if we get even a half decent manager, they will know how to utilize Gestede to his full potential and perhaps we'll sign 1-2 wingers to supply Gestede and any other forward we may sign. But the way we've set up and the way we've played the vast majority of this season, we might as well not have played Rudy.

He was never going to replace Benteke and he is a very limited player in the top flight.  However, when he has come on in the latter stages of games, he has been a handful and has chipped in with a few goals.  If we had other options, I don't think he would be an automatic starter for us (even next season), but I do think he is a useful player to bring on and change things a bit.

Was meant as more of a replacement for Kozak I suspect

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #707 on: April 30, 2016, 06:20:05 PM »
Most improved player of the admittedly-shite season?
I'm not a fan his, but I think since the start of the season he seems to have 1. Got fitter, 2. Improved his first touch, and 3. Started to bring other players into play.
Respect to him.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #708 on: April 30, 2016, 06:38:07 PM »
He's wasted when he is played in a side that hasn't been set up to provide him with service. He's a very limited player but effective enough when the crossing is good.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #709 on: April 30, 2016, 06:39:31 PM »
I like Rudy I've decided. He's not great, but he puts a shift in and seems to care. He's worth keeping.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #710 on: April 30, 2016, 06:43:22 PM »
I like Rudy I've decided. He's not great, but he puts a shift in and seems to care. He's worth keeping.

This........200% if (and its a big if) we can get him some service he will score 15+ goals next season

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #711 on: April 30, 2016, 06:47:32 PM »
He's not had much service but when he has he's tended to miss, like today when Ayew i think, set him up.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #712 on: April 30, 2016, 06:56:41 PM »
Like others on here,i think Gestede will get goals next season if we have a manager who has the tactical nous to play to his strength and actually give him some service

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #713 on: April 30, 2016, 06:56:54 PM »
Top drawer from Rudy.
I like Gestede. I really feel for him too because the managers this season haven't done him any favours. It's fair to say that Rudy is a very limited player. He obviously wasn't the replacement for Benteke. I feel he was more likely bought in as a squad player and we missed out on our main targets last summer (which clearly included Adebeyor). But we've not really set up in a way to get the best out of him. We've played without width. We've played without a wideman. Grealish can play wide. Traore seems to be a chalk booted winger but those two have barely featured. Rudy gets no service. He wins most of his aerial duels too but never has anyone near him because of the dip shit tactics we've employed. The full-backs are really the only ones who look to provide width and crosses but of course we're not blessed with fullbacks who can beat a man and cross, with the exception of Amavi who has missed most of the season.

We've often asked too much of Gestede and on top of that not actually done enough to play to his abilities. He's had a tough old slog of it but one thing he's always done is to try. I always feel that Rudy gives his best. He's looked fitter as the season has worn on. Early season he was clearly getting up to swing after an injury he was recovering from at Blackburn.

Gestede is one player I actually want us to keep for next season. For one, he appears to have the right attitude, and for another, if we get even a half decent manager, they will know how to utilize Gestede to his full potential and perhaps we'll sign 1-2 wingers to supply Gestede and any other forward we may sign. But the way we've set up and the way we've played the vast majority of this season, we might as well not have played Rudy.

He was never going to replace Benteke and he is a very limited player in the top flight.  However, when he has come on in the latter stages of games, he has been a handful and has chipped in with a few goals.  If we had other options, I don't think he would be an automatic starter for us (even next season), but I do think he is a useful player to bring on and change things a bit.

Was meant as more of a replacement for Kozak I suspect

Yes, with Adebayor in for Benteke. Hmm, not sure we'd have been all that much better off if Tim had got his man.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #714 on: April 30, 2016, 07:00:54 PM »
Like others on here,i think Gestede will get goals next season if we have a manager who has the tactical nous to play to his strength and actually give him some service
Someone needs to come in as Manager and either bring those players with him or know who to target confidently because we just don't have them now

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #715 on: April 30, 2016, 08:41:59 PM »
Will always have the stigma of being Benteke's replacement in the season we went down....although more a massive cock up by the club and Sherwood.

Still I see no reason not to keep him next season, he knows the division and can score in it at least.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #716 on: April 30, 2016, 08:55:00 PM »
Most improved player of the admittedly-shite season?
I'm not a fan his, but I think since the start of the season he seems to have 1. Got fitter, 2. Improved his first touch, and 3. Started to bring other players into play.
Respect to him.

It's a shame it's taken him until today to bring those three improvements into his game. For the first time I'm actually starting to think he may serve a purpose next season, whether or not he can lead the line every week is another matter but there are certainly positives to be taken from his display today.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #717 on: April 30, 2016, 09:01:08 PM »
Will always have the stigma of being Benteke's replacement in the season we went down....although more a massive cock up by the club and Sherwood.

Still I see no reason not to keep him next season, he knows the division and can score in it at least.

Rudy is what he is, a header of the ball who has been up against Premier defences who shut out players like him week in week out. If he had some threats around him and the ball was played past the first man (if at all) it might have been different for him. He is what people call an "honest" player I think. I bear him no ill-will as he has never shirked his responsibilities in the team despite being a limited footballer skill-wise. I hope he smashes 20 goals next season

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #718 on: April 30, 2016, 09:02:08 PM »
One trick Donkey and not even very good at that trick.

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Re: Rudy Gestede - CONFIRMED
« Reply #719 on: April 30, 2016, 09:11:06 PM »
One trick Donkey and not even very good at that trick.

How do you know. It's not like he gets any decent service now is it?

 


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