Quote from: VancouverLion on April 22, 2016, 11:25:56 PMQuote from: supertom on April 22, 2016, 11:12:05 PMTop drawer from Rudy. I like Gestede. I really feel for him too because the managers this season haven't done him any favours. It's fair to say that Rudy is a very limited player. He obviously wasn't the replacement for Benteke. I feel he was more likely bought in as a squad player and we missed out on our main targets last summer (which clearly included Adebeyor). But we've not really set up in a way to get the best out of him. We've played without width. We've played without a wideman. Grealish can play wide. Traore seems to be a chalk booted winger but those two have barely featured. Rudy gets no service. He wins most of his aerial duels too but never has anyone near him because of the dip shit tactics we've employed. The full-backs are really the only ones who look to provide width and crosses but of course we're not blessed with fullbacks who can beat a man and cross, with the exception of Amavi who has missed most of the season. We've often asked too much of Gestede and on top of that not actually done enough to play to his abilities. He's had a tough old slog of it but one thing he's always done is to try. I always feel that Rudy gives his best. He's looked fitter as the season has worn on. Early season he was clearly getting up to swing after an injury he was recovering from at Blackburn.Gestede is one player I actually want us to keep for next season. For one, he appears to have the right attitude, and for another, if we get even a half decent manager, they will know how to utilize Gestede to his full potential and perhaps we'll sign 1-2 wingers to supply Gestede and any other forward we may sign. But the way we've set up and the way we've played the vast majority of this season, we might as well not have played Rudy.Agree with every word STIndeed.I think the full backs even more than the wingers. You don't even need to beat a man, just get it in early into roughly the right area, and give the big fella a chance to attack it. We really have missed Amavi in that regard.
Quote from: supertom on April 22, 2016, 11:12:05 PMTop drawer from Rudy. I like Gestede. I really feel for him too because the managers this season haven't done him any favours. It's fair to say that Rudy is a very limited player. He obviously wasn't the replacement for Benteke. I feel he was more likely bought in as a squad player and we missed out on our main targets last summer (which clearly included Adebeyor). But we've not really set up in a way to get the best out of him. We've played without width. We've played without a wideman. Grealish can play wide. Traore seems to be a chalk booted winger but those two have barely featured. Rudy gets no service. He wins most of his aerial duels too but never has anyone near him because of the dip shit tactics we've employed. The full-backs are really the only ones who look to provide width and crosses but of course we're not blessed with fullbacks who can beat a man and cross, with the exception of Amavi who has missed most of the season. We've often asked too much of Gestede and on top of that not actually done enough to play to his abilities. He's had a tough old slog of it but one thing he's always done is to try. I always feel that Rudy gives his best. He's looked fitter as the season has worn on. Early season he was clearly getting up to swing after an injury he was recovering from at Blackburn.Gestede is one player I actually want us to keep for next season. For one, he appears to have the right attitude, and for another, if we get even a half decent manager, they will know how to utilize Gestede to his full potential and perhaps we'll sign 1-2 wingers to supply Gestede and any other forward we may sign. But the way we've set up and the way we've played the vast majority of this season, we might as well not have played Rudy.Agree with every word ST
Top drawer from Rudy. I like Gestede. I really feel for him too because the managers this season haven't done him any favours. It's fair to say that Rudy is a very limited player. He obviously wasn't the replacement for Benteke. I feel he was more likely bought in as a squad player and we missed out on our main targets last summer (which clearly included Adebeyor). But we've not really set up in a way to get the best out of him. We've played without width. We've played without a wideman. Grealish can play wide. Traore seems to be a chalk booted winger but those two have barely featured. Rudy gets no service. He wins most of his aerial duels too but never has anyone near him because of the dip shit tactics we've employed. The full-backs are really the only ones who look to provide width and crosses but of course we're not blessed with fullbacks who can beat a man and cross, with the exception of Amavi who has missed most of the season. We've often asked too much of Gestede and on top of that not actually done enough to play to his abilities. He's had a tough old slog of it but one thing he's always done is to try. I always feel that Rudy gives his best. He's looked fitter as the season has worn on. Early season he was clearly getting up to swing after an injury he was recovering from at Blackburn.Gestede is one player I actually want us to keep for next season. For one, he appears to have the right attitude, and for another, if we get even a half decent manager, they will know how to utilize Gestede to his full potential and perhaps we'll sign 1-2 wingers to supply Gestede and any other forward we may sign. But the way we've set up and the way we've played the vast majority of this season, we might as well not have played Rudy.
Quote from: supertom on April 22, 2016, 11:12:05 PMTop drawer from Rudy. I like Gestede. I really feel for him too because the managers this season haven't done him any favours. It's fair to say that Rudy is a very limited player. He obviously wasn't the replacement for Benteke. I feel he was more likely bought in as a squad player and we missed out on our main targets last summer (which clearly included Adebeyor). But we've not really set up in a way to get the best out of him. We've played without width. We've played without a wideman. Grealish can play wide. Traore seems to be a chalk booted winger but those two have barely featured. Rudy gets no service. He wins most of his aerial duels too but never has anyone near him because of the dip shit tactics we've employed. The full-backs are really the only ones who look to provide width and crosses but of course we're not blessed with fullbacks who can beat a man and cross, with the exception of Amavi who has missed most of the season. We've often asked too much of Gestede and on top of that not actually done enough to play to his abilities. He's had a tough old slog of it but one thing he's always done is to try. I always feel that Rudy gives his best. He's looked fitter as the season has worn on. Early season he was clearly getting up to swing after an injury he was recovering from at Blackburn.Gestede is one player I actually want us to keep for next season. For one, he appears to have the right attitude, and for another, if we get even a half decent manager, they will know how to utilize Gestede to his full potential and perhaps we'll sign 1-2 wingers to supply Gestede and any other forward we may sign. But the way we've set up and the way we've played the vast majority of this season, we might as well not have played Rudy.He was never going to replace Benteke and he is a very limited player in the top flight. However, when he has come on in the latter stages of games, he has been a handful and has chipped in with a few goals. If we had other options, I don't think he would be an automatic starter for us (even next season), but I do think he is a useful player to bring on and change things a bit.
I like Rudy I've decided. He's not great, but he puts a shift in and seems to care. He's worth keeping.
Quote from: tomd2103 on April 23, 2016, 01:19:39 PMQuote from: supertom on April 22, 2016, 11:12:05 PMTop drawer from Rudy. I like Gestede. I really feel for him too because the managers this season haven't done him any favours. It's fair to say that Rudy is a very limited player. He obviously wasn't the replacement for Benteke. I feel he was more likely bought in as a squad player and we missed out on our main targets last summer (which clearly included Adebeyor). But we've not really set up in a way to get the best out of him. We've played without width. We've played without a wideman. Grealish can play wide. Traore seems to be a chalk booted winger but those two have barely featured. Rudy gets no service. He wins most of his aerial duels too but never has anyone near him because of the dip shit tactics we've employed. The full-backs are really the only ones who look to provide width and crosses but of course we're not blessed with fullbacks who can beat a man and cross, with the exception of Amavi who has missed most of the season. We've often asked too much of Gestede and on top of that not actually done enough to play to his abilities. He's had a tough old slog of it but one thing he's always done is to try. I always feel that Rudy gives his best. He's looked fitter as the season has worn on. Early season he was clearly getting up to swing after an injury he was recovering from at Blackburn.Gestede is one player I actually want us to keep for next season. For one, he appears to have the right attitude, and for another, if we get even a half decent manager, they will know how to utilize Gestede to his full potential and perhaps we'll sign 1-2 wingers to supply Gestede and any other forward we may sign. But the way we've set up and the way we've played the vast majority of this season, we might as well not have played Rudy.He was never going to replace Benteke and he is a very limited player in the top flight. However, when he has come on in the latter stages of games, he has been a handful and has chipped in with a few goals. If we had other options, I don't think he would be an automatic starter for us (even next season), but I do think he is a useful player to bring on and change things a bit. Was meant as more of a replacement for Kozak I suspect
Like others on here,i think Gestede will get goals next season if we have a manager who has the tactical nous to play to his strength and actually give him some service
Most improved player of the admittedly-shite season?I'm not a fan his, but I think since the start of the season he seems to have 1. Got fitter, 2. Improved his first touch, and 3. Started to bring other players into play.Respect to him.
Will always have the stigma of being Benteke's replacement in the season we went down....although more a massive cock up by the club and Sherwood.Still I see no reason not to keep him next season, he knows the division and can score in it at least.
One trick Donkey and not even very good at that trick.