We accept all peoples religious beliefs normally so why (if this is the assumed reasoning behind his choice) is he not allowed to make that choice?He has not called anyone out or criticised the activity - he just does not want to support it
There's a very fine line between I don't agree with it, and I don't believe it should be allowed. Those who support Gueye's right to choose are likely to be the very same that want to remove that right from James McClean every autumn.
Exactly that - he can make that choice and face the consequences for that choice. Personally I think he’s a twat.
Quote from: PaulWinch again on May 19, 2022, 01:22:20 PMExactly that - he can make that choice and face the consequences for that choice. Personally I think he’s a twat.I agree with Paul, and also think he's a twat.
I want to be careful how I word this, so to start off I will say I am a supporter of the rainbow campaign and Villa and Proud. I thought the rainbow laces campaign was brilliant and bought a few pairs myself. I also have a Villa and Proud badge which I was happy to wear to games (before I misplaced it)With that established, my initial reaction was that it was really poor by Gueye. But we have to be careful here, all he has chosen to do is to not wear something. So far as I am aware he has not made any descriminatatory statements or taken any descriminatatory actions. The whole point of the rainbow campaign (and the kneeling etc) is to raise awareness and show support for the causes in question. The fact that there are those of us who postively want to do this is surely what it is all about? If it then becomes an enforced uniform or gesture, then in my view it loses some of that impact. So whilst we can all read between the lines here, the truth is all he has chosen to do is not support something. I wouldn't be particularly happy if it was a Villa player, but equally I think we should be cautious about demanding that punishments are dished out etc. People must be allowed to have their own thoughts and opinions so long as they don't overstep a line and encourage hate. I don't think what Gueye has done here (or not done) crosses that line. Now if he goes beyond this and starts making homophobic statements etc, then that woud be a different matter entirely.
For me you are either supportive or you’re against gay rights. There’s no middle ground, and again he absolutely has a choice. He’s exercised that choice and I personally think he’s a twat for the stance he’s taken.
Quote from: PaulWinch again on May 19, 2022, 02:13:13 PMFor me you are either supportive or you’re against gay rights. There’s no middle ground, and again he absolutely has a choice. He’s exercised that choice and I personally think he’s a twat for the stance he’s taken.Spot on, Paul. The same goes for racism. There’s no middle ground unless you're a twat, obviously.