Aston Villa under-10's vs Arsenal -FA Cup Final Post-Match Thread

[Tuscans]

Sherwood played for me is best team, he hasn't got much more to work

He could have played our good goalkeeper rather than the one who cost us the first three goals, and he could have played the right-back who has been one of the best parts of his short tenure.

Playing Guzan and Bacuna almost certainly wouldn't have won us the match, but I'd put my mortgage on the fact that it wouldn't have been as shit as that.

Our good keeper? You're blaming Given for the goals? You're clutching at straws now.

And I've seen on many occasions you post how much Bacuna gives you a heart attack and if I had to chose from Hutton or Bacuna to deal with Sanchez/ Wallcott then I probably would of gone with Hutton as well.

That's just my opinion and you have yours, but right now, neither matter.

[PhilVill]

Got what we deserved, fuck all but sadly on an international stage so all the world knows we are bollox now

Nzogbia should never play for Villa again and Injury Ron should be shown the door too. Cleverley will be off and I think Benteke has already agreed terms elsewhere based on that showing.

massive clearout needed and needs to happen sharpish, no point in fannying about.

[mike]

Steve Rose is spot on. Today's result was sealed with the spanking against Southampton. Sherwood came in and we did well for a time because he brought confidence. He didn't provide some genius tactical plan, just the balls-out approach of attacking teams and not worrying too much about losing. The six goal thrashing we took drained that confidence and that was visible today. The manager and the players were frightened of getting tonked again.

Sherwood is going to have to find a way to restore the confidence levels in time for next season, except now he won't have the patented new manager bounce to help him.

Spot on. I am not as optimistic about next season as I was a few weeks ago. Got my four year old to watch a bit of a match for the first time today. He thinks daddy should like the yellow team best.

[supertom]

Pitiful performance and also, completely boring to watch. I have finally given up on Nzogbia, dislike Hutton, am ok with losing Benteke(he kept us up and I'm grateful for that) and am looking forward to a summer of stress free weekends. I like Sherwood as I feel he is as gutted as we are. Have a good summer, all.

Sherwood can only do so much when inheriting a squad of shit players, many with cardboard for legs seemingly. What he does this summer and next season will really tell us about him.

So much needs doing though.
For one reason or another, be it quality, or fitness, we have question marks over:
Given, Hutton, Vlaar (let him go), Senderos (hasn't let us down when played but he doesn't play), Richardson (always injured), Baker (always injured) Cissokho, Bennett, Luna, Sylla, Sanchez (off to the Copa America when really he needs a rest. Will struggle again next season as a consequence I think), Tonev, Lowton, Helenius, Zogbia (disgrace), Gabby, Weimann, Cole, Gil (shame, but no point keeping him).

Keep,
Guzan (but with a fight for number 1 with a new player)
Steer (think he looks okay. Good enough for 3rd choice. Another champ loan)
Clark
Bacuna (as a squad player)
Okore (Squad player)
Westwood (Squad player...at a push)
Delph
Cleverley (still worth taking on a free, but I wouldn't have him first choice).
Grealish
Sinclair
Kozak

As for Benteke. If we get no buyer, I think we have to sell him to fund our shopping.

So yeah. There's an awful amount of rubbish to trim. If we can cull half of the shit we'll have done alright (more on wage bill, rather than fees as we've got few sellable assets).

[nick harper]

Sherwood played for me is best team, he hasn't got much more to work

He could have played our good goalkeeper rather than the one who cost us the first three goals, and he could have played the right-back who has been one of the best parts of his short tenure.

Playing Guzan and Bacuna almost certainly wouldn't have won us the match, but I'd put my mortgage on the fact that it wouldn't have been as shit as that.

I can't see how Given could have done anything about any of those goals. All were good finishes. The second simply brilliant - for the third Benteke was pathetic.

[Andy1874]

Found a phone in our taxi on the way back from Wembley, can some one official message me so we can sort it out. It's got a villa case on it ..

[Dave]

Come off it. We played against a team with world class players who were full of confidence. Our team has average players who on the day couldn't bridge the gulf. So to use the language above just isn't on IMO

On that basis, why bother to play any matches at all?

Looks like my post above has been posted already.

Hope that pub of Arsenal fans wasn't too horrendous.

Bloody awful Dave. There was some arrogant pissed twat across from me making rude comments about Villa fans on the close ups who I would willingly put his head through the television. He was on crutches from which I concluded someone has already done something similar. An Arsenal fan but in every other respect he looked a real sad loser.

Silver lining - imagine how much worse you'd be feeling if we'd just lost 4-0 to Chelsea... (winky)

[Toronto Villa]

Which is worse? This or 2000?

[Tuscans]

Which is worse? This or 2000?

This is fresh

[ronshirt]

Beaten by a better team and a better manager. But for Given it could've been six or seven. Okore was ok. Of the rest I'm struggling to suggest who should be kept. A more fitting epitaph for the ineptious fuck-wittery of Lerner's reign I cannot imagine.

[richard moore]

Come off it. We played against a team with world class players who were full of confidence. Our team has average players who on the day couldn't bridge the gulf. So to use the language above just isn't on IMO

On that basis, why bother to play any matches at all?

Looks like my post above has been posted already.

Hope that pub of Arsenal fans wasn't too horrendous.

Bloody awful Dave. There was some arrogant pissed twat across from me making rude comments about Villa fans on the close ups who I would willingly put his head through the television. He was on crutches from which I concluded someone has already done something similar. An Arsenal fan but in every other respect he looked a real sad loser.

Silver lining - imagine how much worse you'd be feeling if we'd just lost 4-0 to Chelsea... (winky)

Very true Dave, I can't find it really in me to dislike Arsenal, they've always been the least obnoxious of the Sky 4 or 5 for me. And apart from the one tosser, their support was very restrained in the pub despite there being a lot of gooners there

[Jimbo]

This is miles worse. Utter embarrassment.

[Kevin_Brum12]

I feel for the fans who've travelled down to Wembley today, paid through the nose for their tickets and were hoping to see a decent performance.  The team did not turn up.  The paltry number of shots on goal is pathetic and probably is the most telling statistic of the whole game.  We gifted Arsenal the trophy.

You can take being beaten by a better team, but not when you perform so poorly and fail to give them a game.

There has to be a root and branch clear out over the summer.  The current squad is not good enough and the likes of Vlaar and I am afraid Gabby need to be shown the door.

Why did we not fight like lions today?  The performance in the semi-final was a complete different class to this pile of garbage.

[rob_bridge]

Which is worse? This or 2000?

Worse result. Same performance. Better opponents.

[Deano's Mullet]

I know how Leeds must have felt that in 1996 now. It was that bad.