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Offline Chris Jameson

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #8040 on: August 30, 2015, 09:30:54 PM »
Looks like Victor Valdes move has fallen through, he'd be ace, we could play him in midfield as well.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #8041 on: August 30, 2015, 09:31:31 PM »
Not sure at the cost but we haven't spent a great deal over the summer so I don't think a deal for Long and the other two would stretch Lerner. If we do announce our sale on Sept 2 he's likely to get the money back; if not then it's a fairly minimal net outlay for the summer especially considering the TV money that's flush in the pockets.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #8042 on: August 30, 2015, 09:32:29 PM »
Shane Long only scores against us. Therefore if we buy him we take away his only means of goal production and it will prove to be a colossal waste of money as he will have nobody to score against.

Can't we sign him, but without telling him it's Villa he's signed for, and then just tell him every week before kick off 'it's Villa today, Shane, you always score against these.'?

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #8043 on: August 30, 2015, 09:34:46 PM »
Shane Long only scores against us. Therefore if we buy him we take away his only means of goal production and it will prove to be a colossal waste of money as he will have nobody to score against.

Can't we sign him, but without telling him it's Villa he's signed for, and then just tell him every week before kick off 'it's Villa today, Shane, you always score against these.'?

Maybe Sherwood can appointment a hypnotist as part of his coaching staff. Then he can tell the rest of the squad we are playing the bitters every week and Long that he's playing us. Bob's yer uncle we'll win the league.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #8044 on: August 30, 2015, 09:37:35 PM »
Long is a decent striker but very MON era type signing. Decent shot as would fit very nicely into our set up.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #8045 on: August 30, 2015, 09:38:06 PM »
Just don't bring him back for corners and he'll be fine. Score loads at West Ham for a start.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #8046 on: August 30, 2015, 09:39:17 PM »
But the point is that the clubs insure the player for the transfer fee they're paying, if I understand it correctly? Regardless of how many games he's played in the past few seasons, if Austin really does have a serious knee issue, no club will get insurance on a £15m fee.

So, how did West Ham, Newcastle and Chelsea manage to insure Demba Ba given that he failed a medical with Stoke due to his supposed knee problem?

Either by passing A medical at those clubs, or by those clubs choosing to run the risk of not having his transfer fee insured, I would imagine. I'm not suggesting that Austin can't be signed, just that clubs appear to be bulking at his asking price because of this issue. It wouldn't surprise me to see a number of clubs try their luck with lower bids as the deadline approaches.

So presumably if Austin passes a medical with us (and the fact that he's barely missed a game in his career through injury, and even when he did it was nothing to do with knee indicates that he probably would) then we'd have no problem insuring him?

And without him having a medical with us (or somebody else), then we'd have no idea of whether he would pass one, so "whether he can insured or not" clearly can't have anything to do with it?

It's possible - I don't know. But wasn't GobShite Sullivan citing this as the issue with Austin last week? (1) That they weren't prepared to pay £15m for a player they couldn't insure? (2)

What do you think is holding clubs back from spending £15m on a 26 year old player who scored 18 Premiership goals last season if it's not this? (3) I don't really get your point (4).

(1) Why would you base an opinion on anything, on something that David Sullivan has said?

He said: "Firstly, we haven't got £15m to spend under the fair play rules. Secondly, he failed a medical at Hull a couple of years ago. They say he has no ligaments in his knee, who knows?" So basically he's not got a clue. He's not seen any medical results, the player hasn't had a medical with his club, why would he have the first clue? He says that's he has no idea if he has any underlying medical problems.

(2) And he doesn't mention insurance anywhere in the interview (at least on a quick Google, unless the articles I read omitted that part). So why is this an issue with this particular transfer but doesn't seem to be for any other that's ever happened? Loic Remy failed a medical with Liverpool and then signed for Chelsea and has been fine. Presumably we shouldn't entertain any interest in Remy in the future because of a previously failed medical?

(3) Pretty much every report from earlier in the summer said that his wage demands were ridiculous. Some were suggesting £85,000 per week. Maybe it's that. Maybe it's something else. Maybe his agent has said that he thinks Man Utd are going to come in for him at the last minute and he shouldn't sign for anybody else too soon. Maybe he thinks that with a year left it's worth another year with QPR and having a free transfer next summer. Whatever it is, I'm going to trust that it's nothing to do with what that ignorant c**t David Sullivan speculates.

(4) Really it's just point (1) again. Why would you base an opinion on anything, on something that David Sullivan has said?
« Last Edit: August 30, 2015, 09:42:41 PM by Dave »

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #8047 on: August 30, 2015, 10:34:42 PM »
I think I remember that Ronaldo (I) had some sort of insurance deal when he was at Real Madrid that basically covered all injuries bar the right knee. That was Ronaldo though, I guess.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #8048 on: August 30, 2015, 10:37:45 PM »
Definite no as far as Shane Long goes. Very average player.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #8049 on: August 30, 2015, 11:15:22 PM »
See Adebayor move to West Ham had reportedly fallen through

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #8050 on: August 30, 2015, 11:16:31 PM »
Definite no as far as Shane Long goes. Very average player.
agree,another non goal scoring forward!
its goals we need and he does not score many.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #8051 on: August 30, 2015, 11:19:33 PM »
Shane Long is a slightly better version of Weimann. No thanks, we seem to have moved on from "they run around a lot and not much else" type players.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #8052 on: August 30, 2015, 11:20:44 PM »
Definite no as far as Shane Long goes. Very average player.
agree,another non goal scoring forward!
its goals we need and he does not score many.

I think he's a decent player, but i dont think he's what we need as i agree that he doesn't score enough.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #8053 on: August 30, 2015, 11:29:22 PM »
What's the story with Victor Valdes at the moment? Van Gaal cost them at least 2pts today playing that clown Romero so you have to assume he has frozen out Valdes....surely he wants to play games & they want shot...would love a loan deal to give Guzan a kick up the arse?

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #8054 on: August 30, 2015, 11:44:19 PM »
What's the story with Victor Valdes at the moment? Van Gaal cost them at least 2pts today playing that clown Romero so you have to assume he has frozen out Valdes....surely he wants to play games & they want shot...would love a loan deal to give Guzan a kick up the arse?

Him and LVG fell out.

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Victor Valdes has hit back at Louis van Gaal after the Manchester United manager claimed the goalkeeper refused to play in a reserve team game.

Speaking in Seattle ahead of Manchester United's first pre-season friendly, Louis van Gaal explained Valdes was not present on United's tour because the Spain World Cup winner "does not follow our philosophy and refused to play a second team game".

However Valdes has taken to Instagram to refute van Gaal's accusations, posting a collage of his previous appearances for Manchester United U21s along with the caption "?...#Respect"

He has also suggested that Van Gaal has shown him a lack of respect in going public with his claims.

 


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