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Offline Dave

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7965 on: August 30, 2015, 08:39:02 AM »
But the point is that the clubs insure the player for the transfer fee they're paying, if I understand it correctly? Regardless of how many games he's played in the past few seasons, if Austin really does have a serious knee issue, no club will get insurance on a £15m fee.

So, how did West Ham, Newcastle and Chelsea manage to insure Demba Ba given that he failed a medical with Stoke due to his supposed knee problem?

Either by passing A medical at those clubs, or by those clubs choosing to run the risk of not having his transfer fee insured, I would imagine. I'm not suggesting that Austin can't be signed, just that clubs appear to be bulking at his asking price because of this issue. It wouldn't surprise me to see a number of clubs try their luck with lower bids as the deadline approaches.

So presumably if Austin passes a medical with us (and the fact that he's barely missed a game in his career through injury, and even when he did it was nothing to do with knee indicates that he probably would) then we'd have no problem insuring him?

And without him having a medical with us (or somebody else), then we'd have no idea of whether he would pass one, so "whether he can insured or not" clearly can't have anything to do with it?

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7966 on: August 30, 2015, 09:26:54 AM »
We must have one of , if not The lowest net spend across The PL this summer which is poor. We clearly need some quality and experience and again the board are looking to stay up on the cheap.
Net spend argument is bunk. We are the 4th biggest spending Club in the division and that's very good.
No that's the illusion , if you're naive enough to be taken in.
We've spent barely £5m which is a travesty and we are short in key areas.
The board have 3 days to get this sorted and properly support the manager .

We've spent over £40m, not barely £5m and the word 'travesty' is just so over the top it's untrue.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7967 on: August 30, 2015, 09:29:00 AM »
this is all academic though; Randy will not be stumping up millions to sign Austin and millions to pay him for four or five years. It's a subsidized Adebayor on loan if he doesn't get his West Ham gig, Michu, or someone else on loan . And Lescott at a million or two.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7968 on: August 30, 2015, 09:42:23 AM »
We must have one of , if not The lowest net spend across The PL this summer which is poor. We clearly need some quality and experience and again the board are looking to stay up on the cheap.
Net spend argument is bunk. We are the 4th biggest spending Club in the division and that's very good.
No that's the illusion , if you're naive enough to be taken in.
We've spent barely £5m which is a travesty and we are short in key areas.
The board have 3 days to get this sorted and properly support the manager .

We've spent over £40m, not barely £5m and the word 'travesty' is just so over the top it's untrue.

Yes maybe he over eggs it a bit but surely you can see what he means
Just by saying we have spent over 40 million whilst being true is not the whole point

We have also lost our two best players and bought in 40 millions less fees, so I can't see a problem with saying that

I'm not bothered about the overall spend just how we spend it and how the team starts to come together, but it still doesn't alter the fact that our nett spend isn't that much really

So far obvs

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7969 on: August 30, 2015, 09:51:06 AM »
We must have one of , if not The lowest net spend across The PL this summer which is poor. We clearly need some quality and experience and again the board are looking to stay up on the cheap.
Net spend argument is bunk. We are the 4th biggest spending Club in the division and that's very good.
No that's the illusion , if you're naive enough to be taken in.
We've spent barely £5m which is a travesty and we are short in key areas.
The board have 3 days to get this sorted and properly support the manager .

We've spent over £40m, not barely £5m and the word 'travesty' is just so over the top it's untrue.

Yes maybe he over eggs it a bit but surely you can see what he means
Just by saying we have spent over 40 million whilst being true is not the whole point

We have also lost our two best players and bought in 40 millions less fees, so I can't see a problem with saying that

I'm not bothered about the overall spend just how we spend it and how the team starts to come together, but it still doesn't alter the fact that our nett spend isn't that much really

So far obvs

I can see what he means but he's also making it sound like we've spent nothing. I'd like to see us bring a couple more in as well and it sounds like we're trying to but at the end of the day, we've spent what money we had in and i'm ok with that because we needed to.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7970 on: August 30, 2015, 09:54:09 AM »
With a tighter defence we'd already be 2 or 3 points better off, with an Austin type goal scorer aswell we'd be 3 or 4 points better off.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7971 on: August 30, 2015, 09:55:34 AM »
It's one of those frustrating times for us though in that we have been here so many times.build a good side that can kick on but need that one player to fill in the jigsaw. We have a really decent side now, such a shame that we are that one player shy. Really think watching everyone else we would be top half with a decent striker.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7972 on: August 30, 2015, 10:18:31 AM »
The real bummer though ozz is that we can score a shed load of goals with what we have got. Sinclair is full of goals and Adama, Carles and Jack will heap the chances on a plate for him. We have potentially an electrifying attack. It is stupid, stupid, stupid endless defensive cock ups, calamities and gift goals we have to put an end to. That is why I was so pissed off about the Notts game. Wow we won and scored five goals. Yes and played like the Keystone Kops in defence.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7973 on: August 30, 2015, 10:41:08 AM »
The real bummer though ozz is that we can score a shed load of goals with what we have got. Sinclair is full of goals and Adama, Carles and Jack will heap the chances on a plate for him. We have potentially an electrifying attack. It is stupid, stupid, stupid endless defensive cock ups, calamities and gift goals we have to put an end to. That is why I was so pissed off about the Notts game. Wow we won and scored five goals. Yes and played like the Keystone Kops in defence.

Which is why a gnarly, brutish and experienced defender is perfect.
 Lescott may get outpaced a few times in the next few years but I doubt he will make as many mistakes as a 21 year old prospect.

I agree that our weakness is the defence.


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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7974 on: August 30, 2015, 11:37:27 AM »
Hutton and Lescott for the out of form Clark and the woeful this season Bacuna will help with that. The number of deflected goals we are conceding is frustrating. I also think Guzan was poor for the organisation of the wall yesterday.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7975 on: August 30, 2015, 11:44:43 AM »
We must have one of , if not The lowest net spend across The PL this summer which is poor. We clearly need some quality and experience and again the board are looking to stay up on the cheap.
Net spend argument is bunk. We are the 4th biggest spending Club in the division and that's very good.
No that's the illusion , if you're naive enough to be taken in.
We've spent barely £5m which is a travesty and we are short in key areas.
The board have 3 days to get this sorted and properly support the manager .

We've spent over £40m, not barely £5m and the word 'travesty' is just so over the top it's untrue.

Yes maybe he over eggs it a bit but surely you can see what he means
Just by saying we have spent over 40 million whilst being true is not the whole point

We have also lost our two best players and bought in 40 millions less fees, so I can't see a problem with saying that

I'm not bothered about the overall spend just how we spend it and how the team starts to come together, but it still doesn't alter the fact that our nett spend isn't that much really

So far obvs

I can see what he means but he's also making it sound like we've spent nothing. I'd like to see us bring a couple more in as well and it sounds like we're trying to but at the end of the day, we've spent what money we had in and i'm ok with that because we needed to.
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Using money as a benchmark is not a good gauge. There are a number of factors to why a player is sold or bought for a given amount. But taking a step back you look at the signings at the end of the window and ask if the squad is better than it was at the end of last season, money spent is a little irrelevant. Come Tues night, then ask the question - have we improved the squad?

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7976 on: August 30, 2015, 12:17:48 PM »
There are 3 signings I would like to see before 6pm Tuesday
1) Lescott - likely to happen about 2 million max
2) Austin - seems unlikely but bet he is not at QPR still - 15 million
3) Heaton - not even mentioned anywhere but bet Burnley would accept 5 million and he would be a serious upgrade

i believe then we would have an excellent squad with good cover throughout with the next spend being around 20 million which is what we would expect and the previous manager spent in a couple of his years

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7977 on: August 30, 2015, 12:24:02 PM »
3) Heaton - not even mentioned anywhere but bet Burnley would accept 5 million and he would be a serious upgrade

Based on what? Relegated goalkeepers always seem to go down with a great reputation just because they've been peppered with loads of shots and therefore have been able to make some impressive saves.

It was Heaton last year, Ruddy and Marshall the year before that and Ali Al-Habsi the year before that. The summer after they go down they are linked with all and sundry, only to them carry on with the club they were relegated with and forgotten about.

Next summer will probably be Ruddy's turn again to be the serious upgrade, while Heaton is nothing more than 'that bloke who looked alright at Burnley and was called into the England squad once'.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7978 on: August 30, 2015, 12:28:56 PM »
It's one of those frustrating times for us though in that we have been here so many times.build a good side that can kick on but need that one player to fill in the jigsaw. We have a really decent side now, such a shame that we are that one player shy. Really think watching everyone else we would be top half with a decent striker.

If only we showed a bit of ambition when Benteke was here :(

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #7979 on: August 30, 2015, 12:39:26 PM »
Heaton is based on what he has shown .....and he would be a serious upgrade on Guzan

Guzan was rightly dropped last year and his form is little better this ....Heaton to me would be an upgrade at the price we could pay

 


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