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Author Topic: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions  (Read 1111546 times)

Offline RussellC

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5055 on: July 27, 2015, 11:09:10 PM »
Another Jordan linked, Jordan Veretout, midfielder Arsenal were after last year.

Just seen that. The initial link seems to have come from a French journalist called Pascal Praud, but there's also a French Football correspondent called Andrew Gibney tweeting about it. He reckons this Veretout is a bit special.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5056 on: July 27, 2015, 11:09:12 PM »
Just had a quick look at Veretout on the old YouTube  shiz. He does look a prospect. It's a yes from me!

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5057 on: July 27, 2015, 11:14:09 PM »
I wonder how ligue 1 clubs compare to prem league and these players make a success

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5058 on: July 27, 2015, 11:18:34 PM »
After years if pretty sedate transfer windows, I'm struggling to keep up with this one!!  It's raining money in B6!!

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5060 on: July 27, 2015, 11:37:35 PM »
One French journo was saying it looked to be a done deal, "a priori". I can't remember precisely what that means - is it on the face of it?

I thought he'd be going somewhere better than us - he's been linked w Spurs and Liverpool.

Would be sexy times if he turns up. We're going to have to give all our Jordans a nick name each though

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5061 on: July 27, 2015, 11:48:33 PM »
At this rate when the teams are announced for the Manure game we'll all be shouting "who?" when they read out our players

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5062 on: July 27, 2015, 11:51:05 PM »
At this rate when the teams are announced for the Manure game we'll all be shouting "who?" when they read out our players

While the 10,000-strong French contingent in the crowd will be cheering.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5063 on: July 27, 2015, 11:53:19 PM »
Or shrugging their shoulders and treating the whole experience with contempt.

They'll be right at home in the Trinity.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5064 on: July 28, 2015, 12:00:28 AM »
At this rate when the teams are announced for the Manure game we'll all be shouting "who?" when they read out our players

While the 10,000-strong French contingent in the crowd will be cheering.

"Allez les Claret et Bleus"

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5065 on: July 28, 2015, 12:02:19 AM »
NZogbia has removed all Villa references from his twitter bio. Wonder where he is off. His last couple of tweets have been fairly cryptic too.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5066 on: July 28, 2015, 12:04:07 AM »
Viva le Villa!

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5067 on: July 28, 2015, 12:07:03 AM »
NZogbia has removed all Villa references from his twitter bio. Wonder where he is off. His last couple of tweets have been fairly cryptic too.

Maybe he didn't like Sherwood's comment about players being happy to sit back and receive their salary.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5068 on: July 28, 2015, 12:07:52 AM »
At this rate when the teams are announced for the Manure game we'll all be shouting "who?" when they read out our players

While the 10,000-strong French contingent in the crowd will be cheering.

"Allez les Claret et Bleus"
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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5069 on: July 28, 2015, 12:16:49 AM »
To be honest I think Adebayor has lived off his 07/08 season at Arsenal for most of his career. Wenger did incredibly well to get such huge money for him but he has only had 2 seasons in his entire career where he has scored more than 15 league goals. The hope would be that he would be a John Carew type cult hero for the club but Carew was a few years younger when he joined us. You would hope he could be a positive in helping Gueye, Amavi and Ayew settle in from the French league to the BPL as he did once upon a time so the proposed move isnt without merit.

I guess a season long loan limits the risk for us but it isnt as if we have a squad of young pros in needs of experienced heads. We have become the last chance saloon for top division football for too many - Senderos, Cole, Richardson, Hutton, Richards, Nzogbia, Gabby, even Sinclair wont get a chance in the top division again if he flops with us. Also Adebayor is very much a short term signing to replace Benteke, would have thought our succession planning was much more advanced than that for CB.

We still need a left sided midfielder to replace Delph and right back to replace Hutton. Our current right sided centre half options of Okore, Richards and Senderos dont fill me with much confidence either.

I'm writing this as someone who's not much of a fan as Adebeyor but I think you're being a bit dismissive.

Based on a quick whizz around the internet (OK Wikipedia), as you correctly say 07/08 was his best season scoring 30 goals in 48 appearances.

The following season he scored 16 in 37 (so pretty much what Benteke managed for us last season) having spent 2 months out injured in the middle of the season and missing the last couple of games at the end of the season.

That summer he moved to Man City. They (Mark Hughes) offered the money, not Wenger doing incredibly well to get the money, £25M, for him.
Hughes got the boot in December of that year with Mancini coming in.  He scored 14 in 31 appearances.

Following season, barely picked by Mancini scored 5 in 14. (4 in 6 in Europa League) before Christmas and loaned out to Real Madrid in the January window.
Half season in Madrid he scored 8 in 22

Following season loaned out to Spurs with Redknapp as manager he scores 18 in 37.
Signed a permament deal with Spurs for the 2012/13 season under Villas-Boas. Scored 8 in 34 - his worst return.
Following season 14 in 25, mostly after Sherwood took over.
Last season 2 in 10 for Pochettino.

So no, he's never hit the heights of that 07/08 season with Arsenal, but who has? Since then, to me, it looks like if he's playing for a manager where he feels "wanted" for want of a better expression, he knocks them in at somewhere between 1 in 2 and 2 in 5.

If you want better than that, you'd better hope they've got a release clause at around £30M otherwise you talking trading in the rest of the squad.

I can't be bothered to research it more than the PL Top Scorers lists, but since 07/08 where he scored 24 goals, the only players to beat that mark are
07/08 - Ronaldo & Torres.
08/09 - No one Anelka top scorer for Chelsea with 19.
09/10 - Drogba & Rooney - Bent equalled the 24 goals for Sunderland.
10/11 - No one. Berbatov and Tevez joint highest with 20 each.
11/12 - van Persie & Rooney
12/13 - van Persie & Suarez
13/14 - Suarez
14/15 - Aguero.

Complaining he's never repeated it is a bit like complaining Andy Murray has only won Wimbledon once whilst Federer, Nadal and Djokovic have been creaming the titles in.

He might not be at the absolute highest level, but on his day he can match anyone and his normal level is plenty good enough in the vast majority of cases.

The 07/08 scoring burst, where Arsenal blew the league if I recall, was an outlier really in his career. Threatened to be good at times but never consistently enough for any of the decent sides he was at. City and now Spurs are now having serious issues getting rid of him, offering a permanent deal in those circumstances would be crazy.

The Benteke comparison is absurd too, Benteke had the likes of Holman, Weimann and Gabby hitting balls in his general direction for the past few seasons, Adebayor had the likes of Bale, Aguero, Nasri, Fabregas etc as teammates for the past ten years at decent sides playing attacking football.


 


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