Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions

[ozzjim]

Imagine we end up getting Adebayor and this young Belgian kid in, we could have the best all round forward options we have had in years.

I would like a couple of midfield options now though in fairness. Cambiasso and Praet would do nicely .

[Holte L2]

Imagine we end up getting Adebayor and this young Belgian kid in, we could have the best all round forward options we have had in years.

I would like a couple of midfield options now though in fairness. Cambiasso and Praet would do nicely .

Midfield really needs addressing.  For the first time in a while, I believe in the manager in charge and that he's and he's identified the issues. It's refreshing.

[tomd2103]

It's crazy that we have Richards, Ayew, Amavi, Gueye and potentially Adebayor in.. yet we'll still have 12million to play with, without even touching this seasons transfer kitty

If Randy goes all in then this season has the potential to be much improved

I think the experience Cambiasso and Adebayor would bring would give a nice balance to the younger signings we have made. 

[Villafirst]

We still need another CB, midfield attacker and a top-class striker. At least 7-9M each perhaps £12-15M on a striker.

[mr underhill]

unlikely we'll be spending another 25m in this window. I see it as (sadly for me) Adebayor, an as yet unnamed mid and possibly us buying Oulare for the future

[jwarry]

I wanted a clear out but never run my wildest dreams did I imagine only 2 (Westie and Jack) of the 11 buffoons that graced Wembley would actually be playing in our first match of the season (assuming Crespo replaces Hutton).  Well done Tim bring it on!

[brontebilly]

To be honest I think Adebayor has lived off his 07/08 season at Arsenal for most of his career. Wenger did incredibly well to get such huge money for him but he has only had 2 seasons in his entire career where he has scored more than 15 league goals. The hope would be that he would be a John Carew type cult hero for the club but Carew was a few years younger when he joined us. You would hope he could be a positive in helping Gueye, Amavi and Ayew settle in from the French league to the BPL as he did once upon a time so the proposed move isnt without merit.

I guess a season long loan limits the risk for us but it isnt as if we have a squad of young pros in needs of experienced heads. We have become the last chance saloon for top division football for too many - Senderos, Cole, Richardson, Hutton, Richards, Nzogbia, Gabby, even Sinclair wont get a chance in the top division again if he flops with us. Also Adebayor is very much a short term signing to replace Benteke, would have thought our succession planning was much more advanced than that for CB.

We still need a left sided midfielder to replace Delph and right back to replace Hutton. Our current right sided centre half options of Okore, Richards and Senderos dont fill me with much confidence either.

[footyskillz]

The daily express claimed we were signing borini

[Matt C]

They claimed he'd been offered to us and Leicester.

[Villa in Denmark]

To be honest I think Adebayor has lived off his 07/08 season at Arsenal for most of his career. Wenger did incredibly well to get such huge money for him but he has only had 2 seasons in his entire career where he has scored more than 15 league goals. The hope would be that he would be a John Carew type cult hero for the club but Carew was a few years younger when he joined us. You would hope he could be a positive in helping Gueye, Amavi and Ayew settle in from the French league to the BPL as he did once upon a time so the proposed move isnt without merit.

I guess a season long loan limits the risk for us but it isnt as if we have a squad of young pros in needs of experienced heads. We have become the last chance saloon for top division football for too many - Senderos, Cole, Richardson, Hutton, Richards, Nzogbia, Gabby, even Sinclair wont get a chance in the top division again if he flops with us. Also Adebayor is very much a short term signing to replace Benteke, would have thought our succession planning was much more advanced than that for CB.

We still need a left sided midfielder to replace Delph and right back to replace Hutton. Our current right sided centre half options of Okore, Richards and Senderos dont fill me with much confidence either.

I'm writing this as someone who's not much of a fan as Adebeyor but I think you're being a bit dismissive.

Based on a quick whizz around the internet (OK Wikipedia), as you correctly say 07/08 was his best season scoring 30 goals in 48 appearances.

The following season he scored 16 in 37 (so pretty much what Benteke managed for us last season) having spent 2 months out injured in the middle of the season and missing the last couple of games at the end of the season.

That summer he moved to Man City. They (Mark Hughes) offered the money, not Wenger doing incredibly well to get the money, £25M, for him.
Hughes got the boot in December of that year with Mancini coming in.  He scored 14 in 31 appearances.

Following season, barely picked by Mancini scored 5 in 14. (4 in 6 in Europa League) before Christmas and loaned out to Real Madrid in the January window.
Half season in Madrid he scored 8 in 22

Following season loaned out to Spurs with Redknapp as manager he scores 18 in 37.
Signed a permament deal with Spurs for the 2012/13 season under Villas-Boas. Scored 8 in 34 - his worst return.
Following season 14 in 25, mostly after Sherwood took over.
Last season 2 in 10 for Pochettino.

So no, he's never hit the heights of that 07/08 season with Arsenal, but who has? Since then, to me, it looks like if he's playing for a manager where he feels "wanted" for want of a better expression, he knocks them in at somewhere between 1 in 2 and 2 in 5.

If you want better than that, you'd better hope they've got a release clause at around £30M otherwise you talking trading in the rest of the squad.

I can't be bothered to research it more than the PL Top Scorers lists, but since 07/08 where he scored 24 goals, the only players to beat that mark are
07/08 - Ronaldo & Torres.
08/09 - No one Anelka top scorer for Chelsea with 19.
09/10 - Drogba & Rooney - Bent equalled the 24 goals for Sunderland.
10/11 - No one. Berbatov and Tevez joint highest with 20 each.
11/12 - van Persie & Rooney
12/13 - van Persie & Suarez
13/14 - Suarez
14/15 - Aguero.

Complaining he's never repeated it is a bit like complaining Andy Murray has only won Wimbledon once whilst Federer, Nadal and Djokovic have been creaming the titles in.

He might not be at the absolute highest level, but on his day he can match anyone and his normal level is plenty good enough in the vast majority of cases.

[john e]

Latest odds to join us from skybet -

Emmanuel Adebayor   1/12 fav
Esteban Cambiasso    10/11 fav
Andros Townsend        11/8 fav
Charlie Austin             5/1  2nd fav ( newc 1/3)
Virgil van Dijk            9/2
Fabio Borini                 6/1
Javier Hernandez         10/1
Logic Remy.                12/1
Rickie Lambert           14/1  (WBA 1/10)
Johnny Evans.             25/1
Saido Berahino.           33/1

[Matt Collins]

Logic Remy? Sounds like a cartoon character

If cambiasso does retire I'm not sure who the other contenders are. Tom Carroll looks talented but very lightweight

[Des Little]

What's the latest with Camiasso?

[Chris Jameson]

The daily express claimed we were signing borini

They've also claimed the worst weather ever is on the way everyday for the last two years.

[Concrete John]

To be honest I think Adebayor has lived off his 07/08 season at Arsenal for most of his career. Wenger did incredibly well to get such huge money for him but he has only had 2 seasons in his entire career where he has scored more than 15 league goals. The hope would be that he would be a John Carew type cult hero for the club but Carew was a few years younger when he joined us. You would hope he could be a positive in helping Gueye, Amavi and Ayew settle in from the French league to the BPL as he did once upon a time so the proposed move isnt without merit.

I guess a season long loan limits the risk for us but it isnt as if we have a squad of young pros in needs of experienced heads. We have become the last chance saloon for top division football for too many - Senderos, Cole, Richardson, Hutton, Richards, Nzogbia, Gabby, even Sinclair wont get a chance in the top division again if he flops with us. Also Adebayor is very much a short term signing to replace Benteke, would have thought our succession planning was much more advanced than that for CB.

We still need a left sided midfielder to replace Delph and right back to replace Hutton. Our current right sided centre half options of Okore, Richards and Senderos dont fill me with much confidence either.

I'm writing this as someone who's not much of a fan as Adebeyor but I think you're being a bit dismissive.

Based on a quick whizz around the internet (OK Wikipedia), as you correctly say 07/08 was his best season scoring 30 goals in 48 appearances.

The following season he scored 16 in 37 (so pretty much what Benteke managed for us last season) having spent 2 months out injured in the middle of the season and missing the last couple of games at the end of the season.

That summer he moved to Man City. They (Mark Hughes) offered the money, not Wenger doing incredibly well to get the money, £25M, for him.
Hughes got the boot in December of that year with Mancini coming in.  He scored 14 in 31 appearances.

Following season, barely picked by Mancini scored 5 in 14. (4 in 6 in Europa League) before Christmas and loaned out to Real Madrid in the January window.
Half season in Madrid he scored 8 in 22

Following season loaned out to Spurs with Redknapp as manager he scores 18 in 37.
Signed a permament deal with Spurs for the 2012/13 season under Villas-Boas. Scored 8 in 34 - his worst return.
Following season 14 in 25, mostly after Sherwood took over.
Last season 2 in 10 for Pochettino.

So no, he's never hit the heights of that 07/08 season with Arsenal, but who has? Since then, to me, it looks like if he's playing for a manager where he feels "wanted" for want of a better expression, he knocks them in at somewhere between 1 in 2 and 2 in 5.

If you want better than that, you'd better hope they've got a release clause at around £30M otherwise you talking trading in the rest of the squad.

I can't be bothered to research it more than the PL Top Scorers lists, but since 07/08 where he scored 24 goals, the only players to beat that mark are
07/08 - Ronaldo & Torres.
08/09 - No one Anelka top scorer for Chelsea with 19.
09/10 - Drogba & Rooney - Bent equalled the 24 goals for Sunderland.
10/11 - No one. Berbatov and Tevez joint highest with 20 each.
11/12 - van Persie & Rooney
12/13 - van Persie & Suarez
13/14 - Suarez
14/15 - Aguero.

Complaining he's never repeated it is a bit like complaining Andy Murray has only won Wimbledon once whilst Federer, Nadal and Djokovic have been creaming the titles in.

He might not be at the absolute highest level, but on his day he can match anyone and his normal level is plenty good enough in the vast majority of cases.

I think his ability is there for all to see, but I do question his attitude, as in when he's having those leaner patches, for whatever reason, does he work hard to overcome it and earn his place or get a little petulant.  Hence a loan is minimum risk of getting saddled with another high earning non- performer.