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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5040 on: July 27, 2015, 08:47:25 PM »
I read somewhere on here yesterday that Ayew was the Ghanaian Ballotelli and elsewhere that Adebayor has had 'off the field issues'.

I suspect that this season will resemble a soap opera whereas last season was Greek tradgedy.

Not sure which is worse.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5043 on: July 27, 2015, 09:37:15 PM »
To be honest I think Adebayor has lived off his 07/08 season at Arsenal for most of his career. Wenger did incredibly well to get such huge money for him but he has only had 2 seasons in his entire career where he has scored more than 15 league goals. The hope would be that he would be a John Carew type cult hero for the club but Carew was a few years younger when he joined us. You would hope he could be a positive in helping Gueye, Amavi and Ayew settle in from the French league to the BPL as he did once upon a time so the proposed move isnt without merit.

I guess a season long loan limits the risk for us but it isnt as if we have a squad of young pros in needs of experienced heads. We have become the last chance saloon for top division football for too many - Senderos, Cole, Richardson, Hutton, Richards, Nzogbia, Gabby, even Sinclair wont get a chance in the top division again if he flops with us. Also Adebayor is very much a short term signing to replace Benteke, would have thought our succession planning was much more advanced than that for CB.

We still need a left sided midfielder to replace Delph and right back to replace Hutton. Our current right sided centre half options of Okore, Richards and Senderos dont fill me with much confidence either.

I'm writing this as someone who's not much of a fan as Adebeyor but I think you're being a bit dismissive.

Based on a quick whizz around the internet (OK Wikipedia), as you correctly say 07/08 was his best season scoring 30 goals in 48 appearances.

The following season he scored 16 in 37 (so pretty much what Benteke managed for us last season) having spent 2 months out injured in the middle of the season and missing the last couple of games at the end of the season.

That summer he moved to Man City. They (Mark Hughes) offered the money, not Wenger doing incredibly well to get the money, £25M, for him.
Hughes got the boot in December of that year with Mancini coming in.  He scored 14 in 31 appearances.

Following season, barely picked by Mancini scored 5 in 14. (4 in 6 in Europa League) before Christmas and loaned out to Real Madrid in the January window.
Half season in Madrid he scored 8 in 22

Following season loaned out to Spurs with Redknapp as manager he scores 18 in 37.
Signed a permament deal with Spurs for the 2012/13 season under Villas-Boas. Scored 8 in 34 - his worst return.
Following season 14 in 25, mostly after Sherwood took over.
Last season 2 in 10 for Pochettino.

So no, he's never hit the heights of that 07/08 season with Arsenal, but who has? Since then, to me, it looks like if he's playing for a manager where he feels "wanted" for want of a better expression, he knocks them in at somewhere between 1 in 2 and 2 in 5.

If you want better than that, you'd better hope they've got a release clause at around £30M otherwise you talking trading in the rest of the squad.

I can't be bothered to research it more than the PL Top Scorers lists, but since 07/08 where he scored 24 goals, the only players to beat that mark are
07/08 - Ronaldo & Torres.
08/09 - No one Anelka top scorer for Chelsea with 19.
09/10 - Drogba & Rooney - Bent equalled the 24 goals for Sunderland.
10/11 - No one. Berbatov and Tevez joint highest with 20 each.
11/12 - van Persie & Rooney
12/13 - van Persie & Suarez
13/14 - Suarez
14/15 - Aguero.

Complaining he's never repeated it is a bit like complaining Andy Murray has only won Wimbledon once whilst Federer, Nadal and Djokovic have been creaming the titles in.

He might not be at the absolute highest level, but on his day he can match anyone and his normal level is plenty good enough in the vast majority of cases.

Excellent and informative post ViD.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5044 on: July 27, 2015, 09:41:20 PM »
He's going to be turning 32 halfway through the season, though, and has well publicised off the pitch issues.

I'm fine with a loan for a season - so long as he's not the benteke replacement - but wouldn't go anywhere near a permanent deal.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5045 on: July 27, 2015, 09:49:21 PM »
He's going to be turning 32 halfway through the season, though, and has well publicised off the pitch issues.

I'm fine with a loan for a season - so long as he's not the benteke replacement - but wouldn't go anywhere near a permanent deal.
I'd probably agree with that.

The only way I'd think a permanent deal would be remotely sensible would be a 2 year deal, if we could get him for at most a nominal fee with him accepting a sensible wage package.

So no bleeding chance then.

The above was really just to refute that he's shot/shit because he's never repeated 07/08.  As I said I'm not a fan, but if Sherwood is convinced he can get something reasonable out of him, then fair enough.

My biggest concern with Adebeyor, or anyone of similar physique, is that we get tempted to play hoofball as we have done at times with Benteke, but with someone who isn't as good as Benteke.
On the flip side, he can be a big, nasty bastard when he wants to be.  Ideal for playing the likes of Stoke and whoever Pulis is coaching at the time.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5046 on: July 27, 2015, 10:41:29 PM »
Logic Remy? Sounds like a cartoon character


Virgil van dijk, probably a character for older audiences

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5047 on: July 27, 2015, 10:49:41 PM »
They at stoke signed Ibrahim afellay I wish villa took him !! I think he could have rekindled his career at villa worth a shout and stoke seem to have some attacking intent. I hope  we get back to that level and the signings we bring in could very well be great business. Gueye is like ramires. Ayew like Mane. So not all bad . hopefully amvai is like evra and david alaba and crespo like zabelleta . Cud  say andy robertson and and Glenn Johnson would have been just as effective. However lets trust Sherwood . Richards can be like the captain

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5048 on: July 27, 2015, 10:51:32 PM »
Glenn Johnson is an absolute cesspit of a player.

He's absolutely fucking awful.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5049 on: July 27, 2015, 10:54:02 PM »
Stoke must have an interesting wage bill at the moment. Doesn't Hughes come with about 17 extras too?

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5050 on: July 27, 2015, 10:57:57 PM »
Another Jordan linked, Jordan Veretout, midfielder Arsenal were after last year. French press saying deal done.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5051 on: July 27, 2015, 10:58:59 PM »
Run by bet 365 they get some good deals. Can't we get a bookies to back us surely there's a vested interest. Yes Johnson is only okay but crespo at 28 can't be amazing can he? I hope

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5052 on: July 27, 2015, 11:00:18 PM »
Seems to have been broken by Pascal Praud, who is a journalist from Nantes, and appears from his history to have pretty close links with the club. Also, seems to be a very, very highly rated player, and would be a pretty big signing.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5053 on: July 27, 2015, 11:06:24 PM »
Another Jordan linked, Jordan Veretout, midfielder Arsenal were after last year. French press saying deal done.

Just comes up with liverpool and spurs links on google.

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Re: Summer 2015 - Transfer Rumours, Speculation & Suggestions
« Reply #5054 on: July 27, 2015, 11:07:40 PM »
Another Jordan linked, Jordan Veretout, midfielder Arsenal were after last year. French press saying deal done.

French revolution !! Charles nzogbia can bievenue them
Newcastle were previously doing a lot of french business including french Africans  nd now seems villa are . I hope ours are from same pool as arsenal links means they are more up coming like Wenger's gems . cisse, sissoko were two success as was cabaye but likes of santon failed so w see how villa boys do

 


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