Guzan v Given

[silhillvilla]

A goalkeeper has to take command in those situations. His arguing of the point at the end with the ref' was just looking for an excuse. 

Don't agree, it was a foul

It didn't look too much like one at the game and that was backed up later seeing it on the TV.  He should have been much stronger in that situation and should have took command of the situation.  He wasn't and he didn't.

. .? Coleman had him in an armlock !

[dave.woodhall]

A goalkeeper has to take command in those situations. His arguing of the point at the end with the ref' was just looking for an excuse. 

Don't agree, it was a foul

It didn't look too much like one at the game and that was backed up later seeing it on the TV.  He should have been much stronger in that situation and should have took command of the situation.  He wasn't and he didn't.

If he had been 'stronger' you'd have been looking at a penalty and probable sending-off.

[Risso]

He had a split second to react, and he was being held down by an opposing player.  Clear and obvious foul, and the penalty was soft as well.

[curiousorange]

My only criticism is that he looked as though he expected a foul to be given, because it was a foul. After 91 minutes of Clattenburg giving us nothing, he shouldn't have expected it to happen at the last knockings.

[nigel]

A goalkeeper has to take command in those situations. His arguing of the point at the end with the ref' was just looking for an excuse. 

Don't agree, it was a foul

It didn't look too much like one at the game and that was backed up later seeing it on the TV.  He should have been much stronger in that situation and should have took command of the situation.  He wasn't and he didn't.

If he had been 'stronger' you'd have been looking at a penalty and probable sending-off.

Coleman just stood as close as he could, he certainly obstructed Given getting to the ball, Clattenburg was never in a million years going to give us that decision.
Dave's right, if Shay had pushed Coleman out of the way Clattenburg would have gone the whole 9 yards with the punishment.

[Ron Manager]

Where, I might ask, was the linesman in all this. I saw the incident on television this morning. Clattenburg possibly did not have a clear view
or was concentrating on other players. The linesman should have had a perfect view and reported what he saw to Clattenburg. Perhaps he did and was ignored. With the penalty after watching it again I am of the opinion that Shay Given could have saved it,but not should of saved it.A taller goalkeeper would have had a better chance. Most goalkeepers are well over six foot. Shay isn't.

[martin o`who??]

Can be ruthless when he needs to can't he our Tim!!!

[john e]

He had a split second to react, and he was being held down by an opposing player.  Clear and obvious foul, and the penalty was soft as well.

I'd bet my life if Guzan was in the nets you would have a totally different take on it

[onje_villa]

To be fair I think it probably should have been a free kick but it wasn't blindingly obvious, I'd like to see my keeper being a little bit more physical than that. No way would the ref have awarded a penalty if Given had moved Coleman out the way. I'd put him at fault for their second.

[john e]

Givens a liability on high balls, Guzans a liability with his kicking

that's the nub

[PeterWithesShin]

If it wasn't for Guzan we'd probably have been relegated the previous 2 seasons, without a doubt Lambert's first season. So i'm not going to stick the knife in him and write him off just yet.

[onje_villa]

Spot on PWS.

[john e]

If it wasn't for Guzan we'd probably have been relegated the previous 2 seasons, without a doubt Lambert's first season. So i'm not going to stick the knife in him and write him off just yet.

Yep I agree

[BoskoDjembaSalifou]

Does anyone think Guzan might've saved the penalty? He's good at saving penalties and it didn't look too difficult to save.

[Somniloquism]

Does anyone think Guzan might've saved the penalty? He's good at saving penalties and it didn't look too difficult to save.

He hasn't saved one for a while, however you can't help but feel that both goals against yesterday might have been stopped by Guzan as he would have capitalised on his strengths. The question is would he have kicked the ball straight to Lukaku at any point.