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Offline Brend'Watkins

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Re: Guzan v Given
« Reply #135 on: May 02, 2015, 10:31:00 PM »
A goalkeeper has to take command in those situations. His arguing of the point at the end with the ref' was just looking for an excuse. 

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Guzan v Given
« Reply #136 on: May 02, 2015, 10:32:17 PM »
Given has been a model pro through all the trials and tribulations of the last few years. He's earned his ticket.

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Re: Guzan v Given
« Reply #137 on: May 02, 2015, 10:41:51 PM »
I'm happy with Given as a back-up for the last year of his contract. I think Guzan will come back and get back to his best. You only have to look at how being dropped for a few games improved keepers like Hart and Mignolet. I think Guzan will be the same and be part of Sherwood's plans for the foreseeable future. The fewer positions we need to replace, the more can be spent on top players in key positions.

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Re: Guzan v Given
« Reply #138 on: May 02, 2015, 10:52:07 PM »
So now Given's got his place back does guzan get the Cup final berth???

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Guzan v Given
« Reply #139 on: May 02, 2015, 10:53:52 PM »
A goalkeeper has to take command in those situations. His arguing of the point at the end with the ref' was just looking for an excuse. 

Don't agree, it was a foul

Offline peter w

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Re: Guzan v Given
« Reply #140 on: May 02, 2015, 10:54:57 PM »
yes it was a foul but he should have been stronger.

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Re: Guzan v Given
« Reply #141 on: May 03, 2015, 12:29:17 AM »
So now Given's got his place back does guzan get the Cup final berth???
I doubt it. I think Sherwood has already said Given's getting the spot.
I think Guzan just needs a good summer off and a solid pre-season and he'll come back fine.

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Re: Guzan v Given
« Reply #142 on: May 03, 2015, 12:33:03 AM »
yes it was a foul but he should have been stronger.

My take on it too having seen it on TV. I was none the wiser from the Holte End

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Re: Guzan v Given
« Reply #143 on: May 03, 2015, 12:35:36 AM »
So now Given's got his place back does guzan get the Cup final berth???
I doubt it. I think Sherwood has already said Given's getting the spot.
I think Guzan just needs a good summer off and a solid pre-season and he'll come back fine.

I'm not so sure, as I think his kicking is a problem.  When your keeper struggles to clear the halfway line, you are always going to put pressure on yourselves.  Saying that, I can't think of too many goalkeepers in the top flight who don't have their flaws. 

Offline KRS

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Re: Guzan v Given
« Reply #144 on: May 03, 2015, 12:39:29 AM »
Surprised TS actually made the decision to drop Guzan...theres a valid argument for both sides, so if he thinks Guzan needs dropping then thats all good with me.

Clattenburg today? FML. What a t**t! The Everton players clearly took a bollocking at half time, and their persistent late cynical challenges and leaving their foot in only got worse in the second half. They came out more determined but it was good to see that we matched and mixed it up with them, and the 3rd goal took seemed to deflate them. No thanks to Clattenburg who seemed desperate for Everton to take at least a point from the game.

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Guzan v Given
« Reply #145 on: May 03, 2015, 07:02:52 AM »
I agree it was a foul but I can't see Guzan being held down like that

Fat Sam will have a clear game plan for that next weekend and West Ham have plenty of physicality

It's always been a weakness of given so I'm not sure how effectively he can focus on it during the week in training.

Offline Gregorys Boy

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Re: Guzan v Given
« Reply #146 on: May 03, 2015, 10:31:55 AM »
I think Sherwood's decision yesterday was based more on giving Shey games in the run up to the Cup final than it was because of Guzan's error last week.  I still really rate Guzan, but I don't mind Given getting the last few games, he is still a very relieable keeper.

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Re: Guzan v Given
« Reply #147 on: May 03, 2015, 10:45:49 AM »
I think Sherwood's decision yesterday was based more on giving Shey games in the run up to the Cup final than it was because of Guzan's error last week.  I still really rate Guzan, but I don't mind Given getting the last few games, he is still a very relieable keeper.

The error had it all to do with Guzan's dropping, no way would he have been dropped if he'd just conceded 3 goals in a normal fashion at City.

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Guzan v Given
« Reply #148 on: May 03, 2015, 10:49:00 AM »
Must be tough for Guzan missing out on the final.

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Re: Guzan v Given
« Reply #149 on: May 03, 2015, 10:56:00 AM »
A goalkeeper has to take command in those situations. His arguing of the point at the end with the ref' was just looking for an excuse. 

Don't agree, it was a foul

It didn't look too much like one at the game and that was backed up later seeing it on the TV.  He should have been much stronger in that situation and should have took command of the situation.  He wasn't and he didn't.

 


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