Other Villa supporting politicians:Jaqui Smith, Home secretary, season ticket holder, husband downloads jazz films at the taxpayers' expense.Lord Taylor of Warwick, first black Tory peer, banged up for fiddling his expenses.Iain Duncan Smith, supports Villa and Spurs (?!?).Floella (Baroness) Benjamin, Lib Dem Peer.Jim Hacker, fictional former PM.edit - nearly forgot Lord Howell. Any others?
Quote from: Chico Hamilton III on April 27, 2015, 11:33:26 AMOther Villa supporting politicians:Jaqui Smith, Home secretary, season ticket holder, husband downloads jazz films at the taxpayers' expense.Lord Taylor of Warwick, first black Tory peer, banged up for fiddling his expenses.Iain Duncan Smith, supports Villa and Spurs (?!?).Floella (Baroness) Benjamin, Lib Dem Peer.Jim Hacker, fictional former PM.edit - nearly forgot Lord Howell. Any others?Didn't Jim Hacker support the clearly Villa-based "Aston Wanderers"?
Why football can be a dangerous game for politiciansDavid Cameron forgetting which team he supports shows how the merest mention of football can lead to an own-goal for politicians, says Bill BorrowsBy Bill Borrows4:01PM BST 27 Apr 2015 "Many of those who have spoken in the debate or have written about the subject are either lawyers or football fans," the Conservative member for the West Oxfordshire constituency of Witney vouchsafed in the House of Commons in 2001. "But I have to confess that I am neither."David Cameron, of course, subsequently became both Prime Minister and, for reasons that must escape even the most brilliant psephologist, a passionate Aston Villa fan. In fact, in February this year, in the run up to a general election, he even found time to reflect upon the appointment of Villa manager Tim Sherwood."He’s a very good guy," he reckoned. "And will make a big difference." Without stopping there, he proceeded to cover several other bases with the admission that one of his sisters was an Arsenal fan and his son, Arthur, predictably enough, was a Chelsea fan. Clearly advised that he needed to add another team to his roster, three days ago in a speech about multiculturalism he declared, "You can support Man Utd, the Windies and Team GB all at the same time. Of course, I'd rather you supported West Ham." Same colours at least, but the business of nailing them to the political mast has never been an easy business for the Conservative Party.A subordinate of Winston Churchill who declared an intention to become a footballer was advised by the then Prime Minister that it was not a "suitable occupation", and so the uncomfortable relationship between the party and the “People's Game” continued until it found it’s apogee in the administration of Margaret Thatcher, who actively sought to alienate football fans via the ultimately unsuccessful introduction of compulsory ID cards. John Major, her working-class successor, saw at first-hand how well that played out and knew enough to up his Chelsea-supporting credentials. The over-ambitious David Mellor did the same thing, although less intentionally.Compare and contrast with the Labour Party, the self-styled “People's Party”. Clement Atlee may have played for Fleet Town but Harold Wilson - a Huddersfield Town fan and a man in-tune with his times - was always keenly aware of the importance of football in the national psyche. The fact that he rode into power on a surge of euphoria created by England’s World Cup win in 1966 might be a myth but defeat at the polls four years later, after the national team’s capitulation to West Germany in the week of the election, gave pause for thought. Future foreign secretary Tony Crosland (Grimsby Town) blamed the defeat, amongst other things, "[On] the disgruntled Match of the Day millions."As Mrs Thatcher discovered to her cost, the word ‘football’ in the phrase ‘political football’ is almost as important as the other. It was not a lesson lost on Tony Blair, the personification of the slippery appeal-to-all politician but adroitly advised by genuine football fan and spinmaster general Alistair Campbell (Burnley). As is traditional, Blair stuck with just one team, Newcastle United, and even played head tennis with Kevin Keegan, the then manager. The fact that the club just happened to play their home games less than 30 miles away from his constituency of Sedgefield can surely be considered to be just one more example of outrageous fortune in the life and political career of Labour’s three-time election winner. Yeah, right. And he knows the name of the current Newcastle manager. Although to be fair, there are season ticket holders at St James’ Park who aren’t sure.Of course there is a place for opportunism in politics and football is as good a place to get a fix as any. The irony for Gordon Brown, as star-crossed as Blair was blessed, is that he is a genuine and loyal supporter of Raith Rovers, but no amount of photo-calls at Stark’s Park in Kirkaldy were going to get the picture editors on Fleet Street agitated unless he happened to slip on his backside. This is sad because his decision not to hide his support, even for a losing cause, indicates a certain loyalty that the flip-flapping of Cameron and the too-slick, well-managed posturing of Blair do not. So what of the other election hopefuls? Ed Miliband, who should know (or have been advised) better, once told the Labour Uncut website, "If I’m completely honest I’m a lapsed Leeds United fan. I partly lapsed because I live in Doncaster as an MP, so I have some loyalty to them, and also because we’ve had a pretty dreadful 20 years."A double admission therefore: Support for a club still widely regarded as ‘Dirty Leeds’ and a predilection for deserting losing causes. There’s ‘completely honest’ and, frankly, stupid. At least Nick Clegg, born in Chalfont St Giles and the son of a banker, is bang on trend with his under-the-radar support for Arsenal. Seemingly unable to choose between the charms of the two hapless sides in his Sheffield Hallam constituency (a trick that seems to have deserted him since 2010 when he climbed off the fence to go blue rather than red), he declared himself ‘heart-broken’ after Arsenal’s exit to Bayern Munich in the Champions League in 2013. "I know what it’s like to lead a team through ups and downs," he said. Like Arsenal, he's now going to have to get used to finishing fourth.Of the minority parties, there is a distinct refusal to play the football card – that probably explains why they are minority parties. Natalie Bennett of the Green Party is not on the record as supporting any team but as an Australian she should perhaps be excused (she could of course have forgotten that we play football in this country). Similarly, Leanne Wood of Plaid Cymru seems never to have heard of the game but then she grew up in the Valleys and the rules of the round-ball game don’t really apply in Wales and, considering that it would have to be a Welsh team, there’s not really a whole lot to go at.There is a picture of the Scottish Nationalist Nicola Sturgeon having a ‘kickabout’ at Greenock Morton’s ground somewhere but she seems uncomfortable and, a surefire vote winner this one, she is currently opposed to removing the ban on alcohol in football grounds in Scotland.So that leaves us with Nigel Farage who, surprisingly for a wannabe “Man of the People”, claims no other allegiance than a mild one for Crystal Palace where his son has a season ticket. You might be excused for thinking that Millwall would be his natural habitat, or perhaps Hamburg, the birthplace of his wife, but no, cricket is his thing. That move may be either very dumb or very sma
Just heard...Prince William is Burnley fan.
Quote from: amfy on April 27, 2015, 04:25:30 AMTo be fair, politics does go further than someone having a different opinion to you when they are the actual prime minister, and have the power to put those opinions into practice. The fields I have worked in are homelessness, offending, addictions, and child protection, and from what I see on the ground on a daily basis as a result of his government's policies, I think he's a c@@@.Exactly.I struggle to think of many roles in society which present more options to be a "c***" with devastating effects than being the actual Prime Minister.It works on both sides, too. Contrast the much-loved, fresh faced well-meaning Tony Blair of the first few years following 1997 with the lying c*** who got us involved in a war on totally false pretences, and the impact that has had on so many lives since then.I wonder how many of the Italian coastguard currently fishing dead bodies out of the sea around Sicily would disagree that politicians can be absolute c***s too, when they reflect on the sequence of events (the political destabilisation of the middle east) that has led them to end up having to do that.Thatcher had pretty much no impact on my life, I'm very lucky, but I can understand why many people might feel her to be a c*** as their families felt the brunt of her policies.I'm rambling, but surely politicians can be the biggest c***s of the lot?
To be fair, politics does go further than someone having a different opinion to you when they are the actual prime minister, and have the power to put those opinions into practice. The fields I have worked in are homelessness, offending, addictions, and child protection, and from what I see on the ground on a daily basis as a result of his government's policies, I think he's a c@@@.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on April 25, 2015, 02:54:56 PMShouldn't words like c*** be reserved for murderers, rapists and pedophiles? As opposed to the leader of the Conservative party. Doesn't make him the anti Christ. He just holds a different view politically to most of us. And he supports Villa. I don't see what the issue is with that either. I'm sure we have loads of fans with varying views on just about everything. As long as those views aren't illegal, then jump on board and they can all enjoy the ride.Fair enough, but holding a politically different view is not quite the same as dreaming them up and implementing them as law to the detriment of mainly the poorest people in our society. And he 'supports' Villa? Really?
Shouldn't words like c*** be reserved for murderers, rapists and pedophiles? As opposed to the leader of the Conservative party. Doesn't make him the anti Christ. He just holds a different view politically to most of us. And he supports Villa. I don't see what the issue is with that either. I'm sure we have loads of fans with varying views on just about everything. As long as those views aren't illegal, then jump on board and they can all enjoy the ride.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on April 27, 2015, 10:57:29 AMQuote from: amfy on April 27, 2015, 04:25:30 AMTo be fair, politics does go further than someone having a different opinion to you when they are the actual prime minister, and have the power to put those opinions into practice. The fields I have worked in are homelessness, offending, addictions, and child protection, and from what I see on the ground on a daily basis as a result of his government's policies, I think he's a c@@@.Exactly.I struggle to think of many roles in society which present more options to be a "c***" with devastating effects than being the actual Prime Minister.It works on both sides, too. Contrast the much-loved, fresh faced well-meaning Tony Blair of the first few years following 1997 with the lying c*** who got us involved in a war on totally false pretences, and the impact that has had on so many lives since then.I wonder how many of the Italian coastguard currently fishing dead bodies out of the sea around Sicily would disagree that politicians can be absolute c***s too, when they reflect on the sequence of events (the political destabilisation of the middle east) that has led them to end up having to do that.Thatcher had pretty much no impact on my life, I'm very lucky, but I can understand why many people might feel her to be a c*** as their families felt the brunt of her policies.I'm rambling, but surely politicians can be the biggest c***s of the lot?Ok, by weight of votes, I give up my position and join the 'call'em a c***' mobMy vote for biggest c*** and m*****f***** c*** of all time are Lord Janner and his cover-up mate Keith Vaz.
According to the latest edition (340) of WSC in an article titled Vote winner, "He (Cameron) admitted having not attended Villa Park for several years, although his uncle was chairman when they won the European Cup".Is that right, or was it Ron Bendall?
Quote from: TopDeck113 on May 11, 2015, 06:43:28 PMAccording to the latest edition (340) of WSC in an article titled Vote winner, "He (Cameron) admitted having not attended Villa Park for several years, although his uncle was chairman when they won the European Cup".Is that right, or was it Ron Bendall? It was Bendall.
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