Aston Villa 2-0 Albion FA Cup Qtr Final post match thread

[Toronto Villa]

The first one was stupid as the game hadn't finished. What if more had come on and the red had abandoned the match, for example?

The one at the end was totally understandable. To talk about it being a throwback to the bad old days like Pulis did is just laughable

It's quite ironic when Pullis is a throw back to 80's football management himself.
I'm so glad we never went for him as a panic option on managers.

Pulls brings you exactly what you want from him and what you don't. It is who and what he is. He will bring quick stability, good utilization of current resources to keep the club in the league all with the understanding that there is very defined ceiling and in the knowledge of the type of football that will evolve. Yes, I am sure if we had fired Lambert before Christmas, January would have seen us stabilize. We'd be sitting in 14th right now, a few taller players purchased in the window. Bigger, stronger, and resolute. All combined with a boring, aggressive, thuggish, time wasting, game cheating behaviour.

Albion fans who were so smug a couple of games ago will be pining for the days of Mowbray in a couple of months, as Pulis turns West Barcelona Albion into West Bavaria Athletic. It will be a pleasure to watch them complain about the injustice of it all.

[paul_e]

Pulis bashing is going to happen so long as there are fans who think we've made a massive mistake missing out on him. When we beat him rtwice in a week and he makes himself look a bit of a tit in the post match interview it's bound to be at its worst.

[Ads]

I never intend to stop Pulis bashing. Pulis is there to be bashed.

Even if he was our manager?  I like the guy myself.  I think we should start Sherwood bashing now that would be far more radical!

What are you on about? People will gladly bash Pulis because he is a dinosaur. 180 minutes of football just confirmed that. He is also the Albion manager and a twat. Why stick up for him?

[Pat McMahon]

I don't get at all how the pundits in all their wisdom, and that moaning cock Pulis, cannot see that Yacob has left one on Bacuna and got that decision spot on.

I certainly thought it was much more of a possible red card than everyone else who appeared to dismiss it out of hand. He was two-footed, both feet off the ground

For me it wasn't even a yellow. A block tackle, perfectly well executed. I said that immediately to Chico and having seen it on the box I stick by that.

Then again, I used to play full back and that was part of my armoury.....

[frank]

The first one as everyone has said was pathetic but the stewarding and policing concentrated at the other end was asking for trouble.

Even after the first invasion there were only a handful of stewards at the Holte End and by the corner of the Witton Lane stand, whereas, as you say, there was a solid line of them in front of the away fans. Villa got the stewarding badly wrong. The cost of providing a few dozen more stewards is minmal compared with a likely fine of £100,000. I haven't seen any footage of the North Upper, only the seats landing in the Lower, but the stewarding up there must have been inadequate as well.

I'm not, of course, condoning stupid or thuggish behaviour in any way, but I do think Villa could have done more to prevent it.

[Kingthing]

Just calming down with my second pint

What a great day of fun and frolics - it was like 30,000 Villa at an away match
Singing under the Holte before going up and singing for another 90 minutes and watching us turn over the bitter bastards from down the road again. Now we can forget them for another 9 months while they seethe in their pit of jealousy.

Got to meet Kingthing from the forum and marvel at his dedication to drinking after learning he was in the Albion side of the Witton Arms as the Villa side was full - then WW3 broke out - nothing to do with him obviously.

Call that a pitch invasion - pah!

Good to meet you Ade, apologise to your mate, think I kissed him so many times he was about to get a restraining order out on me.

Being in the away section at the Witton arms was hilarious but we found a hole in the fence to get in the other side.

A nice end to the day was while travelling back to London, guess who should be on the train? Jonas Olson, he started by wearing a hat but it was no use, we went over to introduce ourselves and I sat on his injured leg by mistake, after chatting for a while we noticed we'd been held at a station for some time, a lad looked out the window and said "oh look, it's Wembley"......and it was. 

[Gregorys Boy]

I never intend to stop Pulis bashing. Pulis is there to be bashed.

Even if he was our manager?  I like the guy myself.  I think we should start Sherwood bashing now that would be far more radical!

What are you on about? People will gladly bash Pulis because he is a dinosaur. 180 minutes of football just confirmed that. He is also the Albion manager and a twat. Why stick up for him?

Prospective my friend prospective!  And I did say his post-match remarks were born out of bitteness.  Doesn't suddenly make him a bad manager.  I think they will bource back.

The first one was stupid as the game hadn't finished. What if more had come on and the red had abandoned the match, for example?

The one at the end was totally understandable. To talk about it being a throwback to the bad old days like Pulis did is just laughable

It's quite ironic when Pullis is a throw back to 80's football management himself.
I'm so glad we never went for him as a panic option on managers.

Pulls brings you exactly what you want from him and what you don't. It is who and what he is. He will bring quick stability, good utilization of current resources to keep the club in the league all with the understanding that there is very defined ceiling and in the knowledge of the type of football that will evolve. Yes, I am sure if we had fired Lambert before Christmas, January would have seen us stabilize. We'd be sitting in 14th right now, a few taller players purchased in the window. Bigger, stronger, and resolute. All combined with a boring, aggressive, thuggish, time wasting, game cheating behaviour.

Albion fans who were so smug a couple of games ago will be pining for the days of Mowbray in a couple of months, as Pulis turns West Barcelona Albion into West Bavaria Athletic. It will be a pleasure to watch them complain about the injustice of it all.

You are being so naive my friend.  Football is a results driven business as we all know.  Its even more results driven when your top flight future is at stake.  Now if this was post-MON era Villa who still rightly had hopes of competing in the top six etc, then Pulis would have been a gamble, but when you are as low as we have been then he would have been the ideal man to fix it.  And to be fair he did a very good job at Stoke it was a little more than him just getting them up and stablizing them.  Don't forget he didn't have that much money to spend either.  I doubt West Brom fans are regretting his appointment on the back of one bad week.

[Meanwood Villa]

Have just been to bookies to pick up my acca win from yesterday (it really was a great day) and told the bloke behind the counter I was a Villa fan and was at the match. He expressed disgust then said a sentence later that he was a Tranmere fan and they always used to invade the pitch and wasn't it great! It seems some folk don't know what to think.
To be fair to him I did bring up '94 and he took it well.

[not3bad]

I never intend to stop Pulis bashing. Pulis is there to be bashed.

Even if he was our manager?  I like the guy myself.  I think we should start Sherwood bashing now that would be far more radical!

What are you on about? People will gladly bash Pulis because he is a dinosaur. 180 minutes of football just confirmed that. He is also the Albion manager and a twat. Why stick up for him?

Must admit there were a few minutes during the latter part of Lambert's reign when I did wonder if we should have gone for Pulis. However the league match on Tuesday made me very glad we didn't.

[Gregorys Boy]

Have just been to bookies to pick up my acca win from yesterday (it really was a great day) and told the bloke behind the counter I was a Villa fan and was at the match. He expressed disgust then said a sentence later that he was a Tranmere fan and they always used to invade the pitch and wasn't it great! It seems some folk don't know what to think.
To be fair to him I did bring up '94 and he took it well.

That sounds great.  Are you putting any money on us winning the cup?  What are the odds on that BTW?  Am guessing we are 4th favourites at the moment?

[Richard E]

Have just been to bookies to pick up my acca win from yesterday (it really was a great day) and told the bloke behind the counter I was a Villa fan and was at the match. He expressed disgust then said a sentence later that he was a Tranmere fan and they always used to invade the pitch and wasn't it great! It seems some folk don't know what to think.
To be fair to him I did bring up '94 and he took it well.

We spent the entire away leg at Tranmere being pelted with coins so they can't exactly claim the moral high ground.

[Brend'Watkins]

Agree, the whole episode could have been prevented by having extra stewards at the Holte End. At a cost of a few grand. A £100k fine will be about right which should be recoverable easily with the £1000 fines for entering onto the pitch. They club should be able to identify a 100 or so of the idiots.

[Gregorys Boy]

I never intend to stop Pulis bashing. Pulis is there to be bashed.

Even if he was our manager?  I like the guy myself.  I think we should start Sherwood bashing now that would be far more radical!

What are you on about? People will gladly bash Pulis because he is a dinosaur. 180 minutes of football just confirmed that. He is also the Albion manager and a twat. Why stick up for him?

Must admit there were a few minutes during the latter part of Lambert's reign when I did wonder if we should have gone for Pulis. However the league match on Tuesday made me very glad we didn't.

Bet if Sherwood takes us down you won't be saying that...

[Richard E]

But it would be the courts handing out those fines not Villa.

[Toronto Villa]

I never intend to stop Pulis bashing. Pulis is there to be bashed.

Even if he was our manager?  I like the guy myself.  I think we should start Sherwood bashing now that would be far more radical!

What are you on about? People will gladly bash Pulis because he is a dinosaur. 180 minutes of football just confirmed that. He is also the Albion manager and a twat. Why stick up for him?

Prospective my friend prospective!  And I did say his post-match remarks were born out of bitteness.  Doesn't suddenly make him a bad manager.  I think they will bource back.

The first one was stupid as the game hadn't finished. What if more had come on and the red had abandoned the match, for example?

The one at the end was totally understandable. To talk about it being a throwback to the bad old days like Pulis did is just laughable

It's quite ironic when Pullis is a throw back to 80's football management himself.
I'm so glad we never went for him as a panic option on managers.

Pulls brings you exactly what you want from him and what you don't. It is who and what he is. He will bring quick stability, good utilization of current resources to keep the club in the league all with the understanding that there is very defined ceiling and in the knowledge of the type of football that will evolve. Yes, I am sure if we had fired Lambert before Christmas, January would have seen us stabilize. We'd be sitting in 14th right now, a few taller players purchased in the window. Bigger, stronger, and resolute. All combined with a boring, aggressive, thuggish, time wasting, game cheating behaviour.

Albion fans who were so smug a couple of games ago will be pining for the days of Mowbray in a couple of months, as Pulis turns West Barcelona Albion into West Bavaria Athletic. It will be a pleasure to watch them complain about the injustice of it all.

You are being so naive my friend.  Football is a results driven business as we all know.  Its even more results driven when your top flight future is at stake.  Now if this was post-MON era Villa who still rightly had hopes of competing in the top six etc, then Pulis would have been a gamble, but when you are as low as we have been then he would have been the ideal man to fix it.  And to be fair he did a very good job at Stoke it was a little more than him just getting them up and stablizing them.  Don't forget he didn't have that much money to spend either.  I doubt West Brom fans are regretting his appointment on the back of one bad week.

It would have been a short term solution that would have guaranteed our PL survival and sacrificed any values we have as a football team over the next 2 years. If that's fine by you so be it. But the thought of Pulis football as a staple diet week after week isn't something I would ever want at the club. Like I said he does well with what he has until he has a chance to bring in his type of "footballer". That's when reality sets in as to what you have and what the future will look like. Not for me, ta all the same.